Imaginos
Member
- Joined
- Apr 26, 2010
- Messages
- 1,290
Last edited:
Is Sarah Palin A Neocon Puppet?
- Thread starter Matt Collins
- Start date
No, she said you don't question Israel about anything, period!
00_Pete
Member
- Joined
- May 23, 2010
- Messages
- 654
Whooa, where did you come from? Westboro Baptist Church?
No but, as i pointed out before, WBC have their hearts in the right place. They have this over-the-top act to get attention from the media to try to warn you that Western Civilization is going the exact same way anciente Greece, Rome and Germany went. One WBC member has probably more General Culture and political awareness of what is really going on then literally 100 average Westerners. In case you havent noticed by "FAGS" they just dont mean homosexuals...they mean the same "ones" that Alex Jones talk about...
No, she said "when it comes to security you dont second-guess Israel". If i am wrong please show it to me and i have no problem admiting that im wrong.
No, you are claiming I am wrong, so you show me. I saw the interview.
Do you think Sarah Palin, who is supposed to be against our government's wasteful spending, would agree to cutting off welfare for Israel? Hardly!!!
00_Pete
Member
- Joined
- May 23, 2010
- Messages
- 654
Wow! You are right! My apologies. She had reference to Israel's security. So, I guess she is just like Ron Paul on foreign issues. I totally had misunderstood her non-interventionist policies. Thanks for clearing that up!
charrob
Member
- Joined
- Jan 24, 2010
- Messages
- 2,094
is she a neocon puppet?
...not sure if she's a puppet, but she's definitely a neocon.
I'm always on the fence as to how much of a puppet she is, and how many talking points are really her own. Below are her IQ and school records-- they've been passed around the web so not sure if they're truly legit., but if they are, that would lend credibility to her being a puppet rather than as someone calling the shots:
...not sure if she's a puppet, but she's definitely a neocon.
I'm always on the fence as to how much of a puppet she is, and how many talking points are really her own. Below are her IQ and school records-- they've been passed around the web so not sure if they're truly legit., but if they are, that would lend credibility to her being a puppet rather than as someone calling the shots:
heavenlyboy34
Member
- Joined
- Jul 4, 2008
- Messages
- 59,093
Even if this is true, this does not make her stupid. We all know that the pols are trained actors, and she could well be playing stupid sometimes. I'm open to the possibility that she's stupid, if someone can actually prove it (IQ tests and grades don't prove intelligence-read up on intelligence theory).
is she a neocon puppet?
...not sure if she's a puppet, but she's definitely a neocon.
I'm always on the fence as to how much of a puppet she is, and how many talking points are really her own. Below are her IQ and school records-- they've been passed around the web so not sure if they're truly legit., but if they are, that would lend credibility to her being a puppet rather than as someone calling the shots:
charrob
Member
- Joined
- Jan 24, 2010
- Messages
- 2,094
School grades might not, since tests are a result of how much one studies.
However, IQ is different: it's not something you can study for. And it's not knowledge that you've learned. It shows basic, raw ability.
83 is pretty low--
What does intelligence theory state about an IQ as low as 83?
BlackTerrel
Member
- Joined
- Oct 31, 2008
- Messages
- 10,464
Do you have a link to that IQ test to show it's legit? Anyone can just print something like that?
If true pretty fucked up they'd release it. I agree though 83 is very low.
If true pretty fucked up they'd release it. I agree though 83 is very low.
Distinguished Gentleman
Member
- Joined
- Sep 1, 2009
- Messages
- 287
100 is average in America. 83 would indicate she would have trouble scoring high enough on entrance tests to make it into college. My guess is fake.
I think Todd was always the more political of the family, a former Buchananite, who favored seceding from the U.S. If not for career, I don't think Sarah would be very political. She's a pretty face of modest at best intelligence who is just now learning political issues. Everything she says seems measured to appeal to the broadest swath of the base. In 2006(or 7), She favored a time table for withdrawal from Iraq, but I guarantee she wouldn't say so now. Bottom line: shaky principles, wants to be liked, mal-informed, with instinctive leanings towards being a social paleo conservative. She would be a very less than ideal president. I'd still take her over anyone elected in recent history, on the off chance that she would do good things on accident.
I think Todd was always the more political of the family, a former Buchananite, who favored seceding from the U.S. If not for career, I don't think Sarah would be very political. She's a pretty face of modest at best intelligence who is just now learning political issues. Everything she says seems measured to appeal to the broadest swath of the base. In 2006(or 7), She favored a time table for withdrawal from Iraq, but I guarantee she wouldn't say so now. Bottom line: shaky principles, wants to be liked, mal-informed, with instinctive leanings towards being a social paleo conservative. She would be a very less than ideal president. I'd still take her over anyone elected in recent history, on the off chance that she would do good things on accident.
Well, roughly 68 out of every 100 same-aged peers on an intellectual assessment such as the Wechsler would earn scores falling within the Average range (standard scores from 90 - 109 or 85 - 115, depending on the test). However, someone scoring in the Below Average range shouldn't be considered "pretty low". I would consider scores in the mid 70's and lower as more appropriate for that term.
IQ tests should never be the "end all be all". It largely depends on which test she was given (assuming it's all legit), because some have inflated measures, whereas others aren't as reliable or valid for specific populations such as minorities, visually impaired people or Deaf and hard of hearing people. Also, there are variables in play such as anxiety, fatigue, or impulsivity that can affect the performance of the person being assesed. IQ scores should only be used in combination with other information, including academic assessments, and never as a sole measure of someone's abilities. And they should be confidential, for precisely the reasons that the number itself can be very misleading and distorted. I hope that's a Photoshop.
I approach this from the perspective of someone who likes Gardner's Multiple G Theory. You'd be surprised at some of the parallels this theory has with Austrian economics in terms of criticism from others and the "common sense" factor. Check out a basic summary here if you're interested.
charrob
Member
- Joined
- Jan 24, 2010
- Messages
- 2,094
...it was just being passed around facebook. i just looked and it's on snopes (ie. http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=37140 ).
i can't stand Sarah Palin, but if these records are true, then she deserves sympathy. And, in all honesty, these should not have been posted: even if they are true, i agree with others here that IQ tests are just one measure of ability and, by no means, representative of the whole person.
Do you think that she is brighter than George W. Bush?
charrob
Member
- Joined
- Jan 24, 2010
- Messages
- 2,094
...agreed. one of the comments in the snopes link (mentioned above) suggests that the person thinks she's of avg. intelligence, however, just lacks any intellectual curiousity about anything (including politics, history, etc.).
If she's just now "learning" history, civics, and geography at 46 years of age, that seems to suggest that she's not doing it because she loves history, civics, and geography-- rather she's doing it for money and fame. imo that will never give her the kind of insight and wisdom so necessary to be the President.
heavenlyboy34
Member
- Joined
- Jul 4, 2008
- Messages
- 59,093
I agree-multiple intelligence theory dismisses classical IQ scores in favor of multiple "types" of intelligence-such as social intelligence, spatial intelligence, etc. Long story, but it's interesting. Probably no more or less accurate than anything else. (there's not even a consensus on what "intelligence" really is among psychologists) Did you know Einstein's directional skills were so poor that when he left the house he kept change in his shoe to call his wife for directions home?
Last edited:
Anti Federalist
Member
- Joined
- Aug 31, 2007
- Messages
- 117,670
I'm the same age, born the same year, and, for what it's worth. I took the same test, only two years before that, in 1980, just before I quit school.
I want to say that it was a nationwide, standardized IQ test, as the result page looked exactly the same, and I took that in NJ, so maybe it's legit. I think I still have it kicking around, I'll look for it in some old papers.
Only difference between hers and mine? I scored 129.
I want to say that it was a nationwide, standardized IQ test, as the result page looked exactly the same, and I took that in NJ, so maybe it's legit. I think I still have it kicking around, I'll look for it in some old papers.
Only difference between hers and mine? I scored 129.
charrob
Member
- Joined
- Jan 24, 2010
- Messages
- 2,094
YumYum i'm not sure... they seem to be about the same intelligence and, if i had to guess, both seem to be on the lower side of Average... But Palin scares me: her temperament is different: i think she could become belligerant, if given power i think she could become a control freak, and very well could start wars without much thought; i see her as being exceedingly dangerous. As much as I disliked Bush, he didn't seem to be that dangerous. What's your take on this?
Although I don't agree with him, Obama comes across as very intelligent, as does Ron Paul...
Similar threads
