Is Rand our man or not?

[Dogsoldier]

I made a comment on yahoo the other day and I went back and looked at it later and it had 30 thumb downs hidden for low ratings. I said "Rand Paul 2016".

I never had that happen when I supported Ron with "Ron Paul 2012" actually it was quite the opposite.

I'm just wondering why Rand doesn't generate the same enthusiasm as Ron.

As Ron Paul supporters are we not obligated to vote for Rand? I don't see how we can afford not to. It is Ron's son and they agree on 99% of the issues.

This is as close as we can get to putting Ron Paul himself in the white house as far as I can tell.

I'm sensing a lot of negativity from many public arenas. The neocons will be fighting us tooth and nail to make Bush or Christie the nominee. We have the nomination fight and then the presidency. Just the nomination process alone will be brutal. Do we have our $hit together or not?

I for one do not want to waste my time as a delegate if were gonna do this half a$$.

I've made the decision that I'm going to give Rand a chance because I don't see a better course of action. He will either continue what his father started or he will be the last republican I ever vote for. (At least I don't see too many future Ron Pauls coming up after Rand but time will tell)

What say you?

 

[Michael Landon]

Rand doesn't appeal to Democrats the way Ron Paul did.

- ML

 

[LibertyEagle]

I am supporting him.

 

[fr33]

My 2 cents. Become a delegate and participate in the party if you think you can make a difference at more local level of politics. (Unless you live in an early caucus state which could help Rand some). Rand won't win the nomination without the popular vote. That's why he's doing what he's doing.

I'll support him unless someone else better comes along. So far it looks like Gary Johnson will probably try another LP run and Ventura as an independent. Both of those have more baggage than Rand does IMO.

 

[VIDEODROME]

My 2 cents. Become a delegate and participate in the party if you think you can make a difference at more local level of politics. (Unless you live in an early caucus state which could help Rand some). Rand won't win the nomination without the popular vote. That's why he's doing what he's doing.

I'll support him unless someone else better comes along. So far it looks like Gary Johnson will probably try another LP run and Ventura as an independent. Both of those have more baggage than Rand does IMO.

I didn't think Gary was that eager to go through this kind of bullshit again.

 

[fisharmor]

What say you?

Stick around, create an avatar, and keep reading.
If you're genuinely interested in finding out why some of us have reservations about Rand then you'll find out.

However, if you're just asking because you honestly think there's an actual obligation to vote for him, and you're really not interested in why we have reservations, then let me cut straight to the end of the conversation with a canned response:
If you're really not interested in putting any thought into why we're not giant fans of his, then you stand zero chance of convincing us.

 

[Dogsoldier]

No I get why there are reservations. I have the same reservations. I've decided to give him the benefit of the doubt though all things considered. We've come this far.....If Rand is a dud...well lesson learned.....

I am convinced that Rand maybe the republicans last hope.

 

[Natural Citizen]

No I get why there are reservations. I have the same reservations. I've decided to give him the benefit of the doubt though all things considered. We've come this far.....If Rand is a dud...well lesson learned.....

I am convinced that Rand maybe the republicans last hope.

Well. For me it's not really about Republicans, per se. I mean, look at what just happened with the Farm Bill. They go out of their way to proudly wear the label they're given. Will have to continue working from the bottom up to make any real difference.

Rand is about the best bet right now though. I've got my pet peeves with him but it's not just him. It's all of them. And they're only going to survive on these social issues being pawned off by msm and some of these PACs as the headliner for so long. The championship kitchen is going to get hot this time around and if he's to fail then I think it will be by those hands more so than his. Big, big voter turnout this time around, I think, and from all walks of life.

 

[TheTyke]

Of course I'm with Rand! And enthusiastically so. Was there ever any doubt?

 

[RickyJ]

I say it's 2014, way too early to get behind anyone for president right now. Also, you should have noticed by now that the most popular candidate does not always win in a rigged system.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Stick around, create an avatar, and keep reading.
If you're genuinely interested in finding out why some of us have reservations about Rand then you'll find out.

However, if you're just asking because you honestly think there's an actual obligation to vote for him, and you're really not interested in why we have reservations, then let me cut straight to the end of the conversation with a canned response:
If you're really not interested in putting any thought into why we're not giant fans of his, then you stand zero chance of convincing us.

Uh, you don't represent "we".

 

[Bman]

I say there will be an election in 2016. I say some people will decide to vote, some people will decide not to vote. I say some people will vote to win, some people will vote to say I want no one to win. I say vote however the fuck you want so you can rationalize your decision or don't.

Personally, I'll vote for Rand in the primary and if he wins it I'll vote for him in the general.

 

[singe22]

It may sound dumb to others but, the fact that rand endorsed Romney and bailed on his father before the primaries officially ended wont ever sit well with me. And i strongly feel that's what will be the i gotcha that the establishment will put in his face. He bailed on his father, whats stopping him from bailing on you. Its not like Ron was some father who wasn't part of his life and didn't pay child support.

Now people will argue it was a political move. Well lately i see too many "Political" moves by Rand. More of the same.

No one but RON PAUL.

 

[twomp]

Admittedly I was skeptical of Rand after the Mitt Romney endorsement. It felt like he took the wind out of our sails. It was always a long shot for Ron Paul to win the nomination but when Rand did the endorsement, it was so disheartening. But that all changed when Rand had that 13 hour filibuster. After I got off work, I sat at home watching CSPAN for 6 hours in amazement of the man. It was the more CSPAN than i've watched in my life combined. Since then, my doubts have been erased.

Rand Paul 2016. NOBP!

 

[Natural Citizen]

Admittedly I was skeptical of Rand after the Mitt Romney endorsement. It felt like he took the wind out of our sails. It was always a long shot for Ron Paul to win the nomination but when Rand did the endorsement, it was so disheartening. But that all changed when Rand had that 13 hour filibuster. After I got off work, I sat at home watching CSPAN for 6 hours in amazement of the man. It was the more CSPAN than i've watched in my life combined. Since then, my doubts have been erased.

Rand Paul 2016. NOBP!

Yeah, except we still have drones all over the place. Heck, even the notion of using them to deliver junk to people has been thrown out there just to cozy people up to them being around and streamlined. You know? Seems like consumers are always the easy pathway to applying tyranny. And now they're talking about knocking off an American citizen some place. That was all well and good what Rand did but at the end of the day, What did he accomplish? Drone warfare is alive and well. Flourishing even. New and improved models are rolling out almost daily.

 

[Occam's Banana]

As Ron Paul supporters are we not obligated to vote for Rand?

We are not.

As Ron Paul supporters, Rand is obligated to give us a reason to vote for him.

 

[erowe1]

I made a comment on yahoo the other day and I went back and looked at it later and it had 30 thumb downs hidden for low ratings. I said "Rand Paul 2016".

I never had that happen when I supported Ron with "Ron Paul 2012" actually it was quite the opposite.

I'm just wondering why Rand doesn't generate the same enthusiasm as Ron.

Your experience proves that Rand generates more enthusiasm than Ron, not less.

 

[silverhandorder]

Meh politics does not work. I support Rand because I like him and his father. However they have to sell out to win and they have to surround them selves with Jesse bentons. If you want to be free get rich voting will never get you free.

 

[SilentBull]

Rand Paul is THE man, period.

 

[klamath]

I made a comment on yahoo the other day and I went back and looked at it later and it had 30 thumb downs hidden for low ratings. I said "Rand Paul 2016".

I never had that happen when I supported Ron with "Ron Paul 2012" actually it was quite the opposite.

I'm just wondering why Rand doesn't generate the same enthusiasm as Ron.

As Ron Paul supporters are we not obligated to vote for Rand? I don't see how we can afford not to. It is Ron's son and they agree on 99% of the issues.

This is as close as we can get to putting Ron Paul himself in the white house as far as I can tell.

I'm sensing a lot of negativity from many public arenas. The neocons will be fighting us tooth and nail to make Bush or Christie the nominee. We have the nomination fight and then the presidency. Just the nomination process alone will be brutal. Do we have our $hit together or not?

I for one do not want to waste my time as a delegate if were gonna do this half a$$.

I've made the decision that I'm going to give Rand a chance because I don't see a better course of action. He will either continue what his father started or he will be the last republican I ever vote for. (At least I don't see too many future Ron Pauls coming up after Rand but time will tell)

What say you?

Simple as the fact that the tiny but obsessed group of RP supporters aren't searching the web for ANY mention of Ron Paul and then spamming the hell out of it.
Ron was never considered a serious threat so few people tried to attack him in internet posts. Rand is commonly considered one of the front runners for the presidency and therefore a threat.