Is NOW a good time to suspend the Blimp project?

[Lacrosseus]

People, please just flag these threads or posts for deletion immediately (when you're signed in, its the little caution sign with the exclamation in it). From the first rule on the sticky "please read before posting here" thread:

"If you oppose the Blimp project do not post here."

Don't waste time countering them again and again - ESPECIALLY you Blimp Team people. We need you doing real work. They're opposition campaign operatives, either pro or de-facto.

Lacrosseus and szczebrzeszyn flat out should not be posting to this forum. When every one of their constant posts opposes the project, I'd say that's pretty much opposing the project. In any sane forum I've seen, they would have been banned about 2 weeks ago.

Moderators - your theory of "there are no trollish people, just trollish behavior" has clearly failed pretty solidly. They seem pretty content to start a new thread or post every 5 minutes while you chase their offending posts. Why should they worry - you're not really going to do anything to them, are you? If you're not up to IP banning people who are very motivated to shut projects down, we're really not going to be able to get good activism done using this board.

You are doing just the opposite -- mr. december member with 61 posts. YOU ARE THE OPERATIVE for the blimp. How many accounts do you have on here? What is your FINANCIAL interest in this project?

As I have written you privately -- if you think you can ban the honest people here pointing out the questionable actions by the blimp team -- and at the same time promote this project for your own gain -- you are commiting fraud. Plain and simple.

 

[Onyx]

You gotta look at the Blimp in the eyes of someone who doesn't follow politics. I would personally be curious who Ron Paul is if I saw a giant blimp that said "Who is Ron Paul" on it. I'd ask people and google it.

 

[Mark Mosconi]

Ron Paul would have been far better off producing a christmas commercial with a floating and highly lit bookshelf behind him.

Actually, I don't think he'd get much coverage for that because he's Ron Paul, not Mike Huckabee...and mainstream media knows better than to give Ron Paul coverage. December 16th proved that.

 

[Lacrosseus]

You gotta look at the Blimp in the eyes of someone who doesn't follow politics. I would personally be curious who Ron Paul is if I saw a giant blimp that said "Who is Ron Paul" on it. I'd ask people and google it.

If they do not follow politics - do you think the blimp is going to turn them from a non-follower to a caucus participant? Not likely. Add to this, the blimp is not flying in Iowa or, as of today we find out, New Hampshire -- WHERE RON PAUL NEEDS Caucus support -- so those that you think may be magically converted will be of little value.

Actually, just a few minutes ago, I received the email from the campaign asking for volunteers to go to Iowa to help... but I assume you are one of those that think that supporters should sink hundreds of thousands of dollars into a troubled project that will not be able to do anything about these two states?

 

[Lacrosseus]

Actually, I don't think he'd get much coverage for that because he's Ron Paul, not Mike Huckabee...and mainstream media knows better than to give Ron Paul coverage. December 16th proved that.

Ok... so the same goes for the blimp. Google Ron Paul Blimp and see how many stories are there -- and those that are, the blimp is a sideline and the article would have been written anyway.

Support should go to pay for the hotel rooms for people who have the time and ability to go to Iowa to help Ron Paul -- but not the money. Support should not go pay for the hotel rooms of a bunch of bungling amateurs who want to fly around in the blimp.

 

[KirkOlson]

The blimp is great.

I'm not an American but I wish I was so I could purchase. It's a remarkable and truly unique project. Come'on people, it's a friggin blimp!! How crazy can you get?

Please purchase.

It's a blimp for crying out loud, this is once in a lifetime.

 

[Cyclone]

3 people against and fighting the blimp -- 1,000's supporting it -- give up! What are you jealous because it was not your idea or were some of your ideas shot down – you are embarrassing yourself now!

Or is it three people with thousands of accounts started in November and December that support the blimp? (If you don't want to get attacked back you shouldn't start the fight.)

There are more than 3 on this thread that fighting the money pit that has become the blimp. It is draining all our resources, TV ads cannot get made, hardly any newspaper ads are going, and it makes us look like the circus is in town. We are getting media attention, but what kind of attention? It matters.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/ron-paul

Not every media article is flattering. And none of this spreads his message.

What brought you to Ron Paul? Was it a gimmick? Or was it a video or an article you read? What do you think will bring more people to Ron Paul? Hundreds of thousands dollars spent on a blimp or political advertising? The question is what is the most effective use of the money to bring voters to Ron Paul.


I think that everyone on this forum who has anything to do with the blimp MUST disclose before they can make posts about the blimp.

 

[Cyclone]

Hey, why was Lacrosseus banned? This seems to be the second person I have heard of in two days who has been banned just for asking questions about the blimp. Make that three people who have been banned who asked questions about the blimp. Am I next?

 

[LibertyEagle]

Hey, why was Lacrosseus banned? This seems to be the second person I have heard of in two days who has been banned just for asking questions about the blimp.

I have the same question. Why was Lacrosseus banned?

When did it become unacceptable here to ask valid questions? Since when was it a requirement to accept anyone's statements at face value?

 

[Dave Pedersen]

hmm i left DailyPaul because they were getting too restrictive. I hope the same thing is not happening here. It amazes me how much I find myself censoring my own words just to be able to continue to speak among those who support Ron Paul.

When I drive down the street I am constantly mindful of the prospect of being pulled over by the police. It started a couple years ago after a very unpleasant incident. Now I feel the same way on forums dedicated to the promotion of freedom. In my opinion the only reasons to ban someone are when someone deliberately spreads lies or uses abundant obscenities against other members and will not heed warnings to cease and desist.

God bless America.

I can still say that?

 

[Bryan]

No one has been banned for asking questions- ever. People get banned for repeated violations of the forum guidelines shown here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=22

More people will be banned for continuing to violate these guidelines:

+ Insulting or personally attacking other users is not allowed by any member.

+ Off-topic posts - Posts that do not relate to the threads intent are subject to being deleted.

+ Topics posted in the wrong sub-forum are subject to being moved or deleted. Please understand the sub-forum division before starting a new topic.

+ Any form of antagonizing other members is not allowed by non-established members.

+ If you are to be critical of another users ideas or message please do so in a respectful manner. It is possible to discuss your points as to why you feel the way you do, ideally you should include alternate suggestions or acknowledge you have none.

+ No excessive / pointless negativity on the campaign, its future or elements of it. All messages with a negative tone about the campaign from new users must provide supportive facts as to why there is a perceived negative and provide some suggested solutions to the issue. [This includes the all projects, like the blimp].

Cheers!