Is It Time for America to Break Apart?

[phill4paul]

Nobody secedes and lives to tell about it. Ask the Confederacy.

Seems I remember some colonialists telling a King to go pound sand and, for a time, gaining independence. The Confederacy could have won theirs if they would have bet on a different hand then the one they played all in.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Nobody secedes and lives to tell about it. Ask the Confederacy.

The 13 colonies seceded from the British and they lived to tell about it.

 

[euphemia]

Lines were drawn many years ago...

The Mississippi runnin' Nawth and South and the Mason-Dixon runnin' east-n-west.

Um, no. That would mean the South gets Baltimore. No. Just no.

 

[euphemia]

The 13 colonies seceded from the British and they lived to tell about it.

That was then. Lincoln showed you that the union must be preserved and sent the army to make sure it was. The government has bigger weapons now.

 

[PAF]

The 13 colonies seceded from the British and they lived to tell about it.

Yeah, but that was before this:

 

[Swordsmyth]

That was then. Lincoln showed you that the union must be preserved and sent the army to make sure it was. The government has bigger weapons now.

The industrial/logistic issues aren't so much in favor of the feds these days.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah, but that was before this:


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Irrelevant.

Do you support secession?
Because it's pointless if you just allow the enemy to move in on you across open borders afterwards.

 

[phill4paul]

That was then. Lincoln showed you that the union must be preserved and sent the army to make sure it was. The government has bigger weapons now.

And have those bigger weapons allowed them to subjugate Afghanistan? Iraq? Syria? How do the optics change when they begin using them on civilians? How many in the army would support or defect?
It's much more complicated then saying "They have a mighty military." King George had one of the mightiest.

 

[PAF]

Irrelevant.

Do you support secession?
Because it's pointless if you just allow the enemy to move in on you across open borders afterwards.

Secession? What? Are you still on dope?

Son, you can’t even seastead a thousand miles out without threat of good ‘ol USofA. Take +$10,000 with you and see what happens. Take shy of $10,000 and you’re immediately suspicious with goons on your ass.

I’ll tell ya what... once Property Rights (I know you hate that concept) become an afterthought, instead of a forgotten thought, let me know... then maybe your question will have some relevance.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Secession? What? Are you still on dope?

Son, you can’t even seastead a thousand miles out without threat of good ‘ol USofA. Take +$10,000 with you and see what happens. Take shy of $10,000 and you’re immediately suspicious with goons on your ass.

I’ll tell ya what... once Property Rights (I know you hate that concept) become an afterthought, instead of a forgotten thought, let me know... then maybe your question will have some relevance.

Secession with a government is far more possible than seasteadding.

You are just a destructive anarchist that doesn't want liberty.

 

[PAF]

Secession with a government is far more possible than seasteadding.

You are just a destructive anarchist that doesn't want liberty.

Yep, very relevant:

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It has affected your leftist-neocon brain.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yep, very relevant:

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It has affected your leftist-neocon brain.

Completely irrelevant.

Your anarchist brain has been warped.

 

[Cleaner44]

Well liberals did say that if Trump becomes president they'll move to Canada. From what I can tell, hardly any of them followed up on that.

You would think liberals would love to move to a liberal nation like Canada. Why keep crying about unfair it is here and how it is so much better in socialist countries?

A parasitic relationship is one in which one organism, the parasite, lives off of another organism, the host, harming it and possibly causing death. The parasite lives on or in the body of the host.
https://necsi.edu/parasitic-relationships

 

[Swordsmyth]

You would think liberals would love to move to a liberal nation like Canada. Why keep crying about unfair it is here and how it is so much better in socialist countries?

A parasitic relationship is one in which one organism, the parasite, lives off of another organism, the host, harming it and possibly causing death. The parasite lives on or in the body of the host.
https://necsi.edu/parasitic-relationships

That and they are control freaks.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Welcome to the new United States of America and Red America. Not a very continuous pair of countries.

I don't see that being continuous as necessary. Certainly more convenient but not necessary. Perhaps we could have separate countries with pockets here and there same as Native Americans have the Reservation System. They are sovereign nations within the US borders.

 

[PAF]

That and they are control freaks.

That, coming from you lol

You are NOT for individual rights, private property rights, private contract rights...

Your purpose is for the common good, which is no different than the libs.

You sure are a hoot, SS.

 

[cruzrulez]

nope, we just liberate the traitors first and we can keep our large and beautiful country.

 

[Swordsmyth]

That, coming from you lol

You are NOT for individual rights, private property rights, private contract rights...

Your purpose is for the common good, which is no different than the libs.

You sure are a hoot, SS.

I am for what it takes to secure individual rights, private property rights, private contract rights, you want to dismantle everything that protects them and invite in those who seek to destroy them.

You are an enemy of liberty.

 

[Stratovarious]

Yeah, but that was before this:


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Does secession not violate NAP?

For those the do not wish to go along, are they not being forced off the 'reservation' ?

 

[Swordsmyth]

nope, we just liberate the traitors first and we can keep our large and beautiful country.

It will come to that because peaceful separation will not happen.