Is it me or is the Republican "base" delusional?

[Finn]

The "Republikan" Party is run by the same power structure as the "Demokratic" Party. Both are Socialistic and Communistic and Fascist.

Look, if you want to make people wonder about the illusional two party system you need to drop terms like "communistic" and "socialistic" because that only proves you are still watching the world from "the right".

It's evil people doing evil things, drop the terms and address the issues.

 

[affa]

Look, if you want to make people wonder about the illusional two party system you need to drop terms like "communistic" and "socialistic" because that only proves you are still watching the world from "the right".

It's evil people doing evil things, drop the terms and address the issues.

QFT

 

[acptulsa]

Well let's see. Australian Rupert Murdoch, who has given his legal limit to the Clinton campaign, owns the Wall St. Journal and Faux, yet conservatives will tell you that these are trustworthy sources of news and patriotic American institutions...

 

[klamath]

The fact that McCain beats O! and Hill in national polls doesn't make them delusional it makes them smart if they want to retain power, even if they can't stand him.

forget the national polls. Look at the electoral college polling. The Democrats are at 284 now. 270 = win

 

[lonestarguy]

Many on these forums are under the delusion that Ron Paul will not run 3rd Party.

Ron Paul will run 3rd Party if the people DEMAND that he run 3rd party. He had to be cajoled to enter the presidential race within the neocon GOP in February of 2007. He didnt really want to do it. But we are all so glad he did. Think for a moment. If Paul had not run in 2007 and up until now, what would you have been doing politically?

After Paul tidy's up and gains his congressional nomination in March 08, then we rise up and lovingly demand that Ron Paul continue his quest on the presidential level as a 3rd Party candidate as LP or CP.

Yes, even Dr. Paul can be convinced to lead the movement, and in the wake, introducing and recruiting millions of converts to the freedom message. We have to keep the movement pumped, growing, and juiced, for one day we will acheive real victory.

So, lets get with the program and figure out how to apply that loving pressure that will convince Ron Paul to run 3rd Party and propel the freedom movement forward and stop playing footsie for crumbs with the neocon GOP for god's sake.

I mean, wtf, Perot got 19% of the general election vote in '92 even with his weird antics of getting out and then back in the race. He didn't coalesce a movement. Ron Paul has and must continue...........

 

[pinkmandy]

Anyone who doesn't understand that economically we cannot afford the war yet is getting behind a person who wants more war and doesn't understand economics won't allow it is delusional. So, yes, the Republican party is delusional.

I'll say the same of the Democratic party since they are planning on taking their time ending the war, want universal healthcare and universal preschool.

So it seems most of our country is delusional, no? It's like having no job, being 2 months behind on your mortgage, being maxxed out on all your credit cards and heading to a car dealership to buy a new Corvette.

 

[jsu718]

The parties are on the brink of a merger. They have each become both evil AND stupid.

 

[tomveil]

Anyone who doesn't understand that economically we cannot afford the war yet is getting behind a person who wants more war and doesn't understand economics won't allow it is delusional. So, yes, the Republican party is delusional.

I'll say the same of the Democratic party since they are planning on taking their time ending the war, want universal healthcare and universal preschool.

So it seems most of our country is delusional, no? It's like having no job, being 2 months behind on your mortgage, being maxxed out on all your credit cards and heading to a car dealership to buy a new Corvette.

I want a Corvette Maybe if the government hadn't put me 30K+ into debt

 

[Karrl]

Definitely Delusional! Feb 9th poll proves it beyond a doubt

What would help the economy the most? Top answer---48% think pulling out of IRAQ would help the most. Breakdown---65 percent of Democrats think it would help the economy a lot, but only 18 percent of Republicans think so.

18%??? DOOMED!! The republican party is DOOMED!

Second most popular answer---more government spending!! OH WELL, they got it half right!!

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2008-02-08-stimulus-ap-poll_N.htm

 

[bcreps85]

The majority voting are stupid sheeple following the party line.

The party line is to lose though, and that is what the sheeple don't know. It is Hillary's turn...then when people are pissed at Democrats enough it will be Romney's turn.

 

[IChooseLiberty]

I'm constantly stunned by the party-line republicans that follow the MSM like the gospel. Their assertions that McCain, Romney, or Huckabee could win in a general election... are just plain delusional.

Looking at the raw data in terms of number of people showing up for the primaries for each side... the democrats are coming out at a 3/4 majority right now.

Fast forward to the general election, and if the republican nominee smells anything like bush 2.0... or worse.. it's doomsday for the republican party all together. With approval ratings of now 19%... ANY semblance or relationship with Bush is a death sentence in the general election.

I mean... seriously, this is going to turn out to be a pathetic landslide for the democrats, especially if Obama gets the nomination. McCain will be slaughtered like a pig, not that he deserves much better.

Republicans need to really wise up to the fact that in this political climate, you cannot beat a democrat nominee, by trying to be a democrat (McCain) or running on continuing bush's legacy (Romney, Huckabee).... it's just plain suicide.

Oh well... America you were great... but now I fear you will fall.

...and watch McCain win in November. I have this sick feeling in my gut just as I did with Bush in the last 2 election I applied for my passport yesterday and I'll be done with this country if McCain wins.

 

[ronpaulblogsdotcom]

...and watch McCain win in November. I have this sick feeling in my gut just as I did with Bush in the last 2 election I applied for my passport yesterday and I'll be done with this country if McCain wins.

A passport is a good step. More Americans should get one and use it. Then maybe they would not be so excited about bombing other countries.

But you will be able to visit other countries for a while as a tourist with one. When you want to move to stay long term somewhere else you will need a work or student visa unless you have citizenship somewhere else fairly easily.

Just google "country work visa" for more info or visit the embassy site of the country you want to move to. Easiest usually is to have a company sponsor you.

 

[Xyrus2]

The fact that McCain beats O! and Hill in national polls doesn't make them delusional it makes them smart if they want to retain power, even if they can't stand him.

I'm not sure where they're polling, but according to the primary turnouts the democrats are OBLITERATING republicans by huge margins. And that's even before the real mud starts to fly.

Plus, any republican who even has the slightest tinge of "Bush" will be soundly defeated given the Bush's wonderful approval rating.

Right now, I'd say the republicans are going to lose with a 70-30 breakdown of the vote. The republicans have alienated the conservative base. They haven't got any energy, and all they are offering up is the same (and possibly worse) crap. They're trying to jump the shark, which is never pretty and is often the sign of an imminent demise.

Unless Paul gets the nomination, the GOP is going to be in for a tremendous beating in November.

~X~

 

[acptulsa]

The majority voting are stupid sheeple following the party line.

The party line is to lose though, and that is what the sheeple don't know. It is Hillary's turn...then when people are pissed at Democrats enough it will be Romney's turn.

Oh, the G.O.P. base is waking up to the fact that McCain is the next Bob Dole. We need to be gathering signatures on our petitions this summer. That way we have a Sword of Damocles to hold over the party establishment's head during the convention. Let the conservative rank and file wonder why the party bosses are even considering nominating this loser, much less in the face of the gold-plated fact that if they do, we'll split the vote.

The rank and file are, at least, realizing that the young conservatives are ready for a return to the type of libertarian ideals that Reagan at least paid lip service to, and that if the party is to have a future this is it. If the party bosses get too stubborn, people will begin to question why.

Much can happen--if we can just get to that magic brokered convention. Slam McCain!

 

[ronpaulblogsdotcom]

Oh, the G.O.P. base is waking up to the fact that McCain is the next Bob Dole. We need to be gathering signatures on our petitions this summer. That way we have a Sword of Damocles to hold over the party establishment's head during the convention. Let the conservative rank and file wonder why the party bosses are even considering nominating this loser, much less in the face of the gold-plated fact that if they do, we'll split the vote.

The rank and file are, at least, realizing that the young conservatives are ready for a return to the type of libertarian ideals that Reagan at least paid lip service to, and that if the party is to have a future this is it. If the party bosses get too stubborn, people will begin to question why.

Much can happen--if we can just get to that magic brokered convention. Slam McCain!

If we do try to split the vote it would be humiliating to the GOP, for RP to beat the GOP nom McCain, even if we did lose to the Dem nom.

 

[acptulsa]

If we do try to split the vote it would be humiliating to the GOP, for RP to beat the GOP nom McCain, even if we did lose to the Dem nom.

There's a mouthful. Nothing--nothing--would spell doom for the party establishment like us getting Paul on the ballot with initiative petitions in fifty states and Paul edging out the warhawk. If we can put McCain in third by splitting the anti-war vote that would be the end of the neocons and no mistake. Or, at least, no further mistakes.

Would that be enough of a victory to justify all our hard work? I'd rather win, and taking the convention would do it, but I would definitely settle for destroying the neocons.

 

[acptulsa]

P.S. Think it's impossible? Let's see...

Bush's approval rating is below 20%. Ron Paul has topped 20% in caucus states, and all summer is a long time to finish the job of educating the voters that the caucus generally does--and remember, that's 20% in G.O.P. caucuses, and Paul has more appeal to independents. The Democratic nominee will have all summer to stick his or her foot in the mouth, or for the economic situation to get bad enough that the prospect for more debt to scare the voters even more, or for another bureaucratic screw-up on a FEMA scale to make anti-war independents question Democratic big-government ideals.

Hell, we'd probably win with the G.O.P. nomination. We'd split the votes for both parties if we'd get those ballot access petitions in. A win would be less likely, but putting McCain in third would be a serious possibility.