Is it just me or..

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So after reading some gut-wrenching anti-Israel leftism, I was thinking about the real motive that the US would have to fund both sides of the Israeli-Arab conflict and what motives the Arabs really have to destroy Israel.

Then it occurred to me.. has our foreign policy gotten to the point where, for some reason or another, we want the conflict to go on without end for a long time? Billions in foreign aid to both sides, open relationships with Bush visiting both sides, huge trade with both sides in terms of oil for the Arab nations and tech/military intelligence etc. from the Israeli side. Maybe there's some reason the US wants this fight to go on? Paul always talked about how our foreign aid to Israel keeps them on a leash, and prevents them from working out their own peace accords. The Christian Right in the US, one of the influences that any Paul supporter would have to concede is responsible for corrupting the Republican party, is far more against a two-state solution than all but the most religious Israelis. Chances are that the US does more to hamper peace efforts than help.
 
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The Christian Right in the US, one of the influences that any Paul supporter would have to concede is responsible for corrupting the Republican party, is far more against a two-state solution than all but the most religious Israelis. Chances are that the US does more to hamper peace efforts than help.

Nah, the Republican Party was corrupt before the Christian Right entered the scene. You're forgetting that there were 2 factions in the Republican Party, for quite some time. The big government Rockefeller-Republicans and the small limited government Goldwater-Conservatives. Reagan, Bush and the Christian-Right just added another big government group to the mix... the neoconservatives. Unfortunately, some of the conservatives fell for it and a lot of the others left the party in disgust.
 
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So after reading some gut-wrenching anti-Israel leftism, I was thinking about the real motive that the US would have to fund both sides of the Israeli-Arab conflict and what motives the Arabs really have to destroy Israel.

Then it occurred to me.. has our foreign policy gotten to the point where, for some reason or another, we want the conflict to go on without end for a long time? Chances are that the US does more to hamper peace efforts than help.

politicians aim to please the lobbying groups for both sides. there's no conspiracy, its just stupidity and selfishness
 
Yeah, they want the conflict to continue as long as they can keep the flames fanned. Yeah, the Christian Right actually cleaned the party up--a little bit, for a little while. Think Nixon. Yeah, there are too many competing forces at the top with selfish agendas for there to be much of a long term plan. All imo...
 
Maybe there's some reason the US wants this fight to go on?

War Profiteers.

Listen England had this same problem in the 10th century. For hundreds of years the vikings invaded England. England needed to build up a massive army and defence. Thus the knight and castles were created.

Eventually, the vikings fizzled out and stopped invading? What to do with a big army? Go invade another country. (the muslims). Thus was the start of the many crusades.

War Profiteers only make money when there is war. They have plenty of lobbyists to represent them.
 
politicians aim to please the lobbying groups for both sides. there's no conspiracy, its just stupidity and selfishness

Israel is itself the result of a great conspiracy by the zionists. Why would people who conspire and successfully conquer one land be reluctant to take more? The Islamic countries and the other "rogue" nations are just the only ones the monied elite cannot control - and they want everything. They are not satisfied with the US/Israeli empire.
 
Well I wouldn't say the christian right put the neoconservatives into the government. You have to go back and research the neoconservative movement..Irving Kristol etc...these are immigrants from russia/germany...bolshevik / trotskyites who infiltrated the GOP from the Far far far left fringe..because the left wanted peace and these guys wanted wars. there are chrisitan zionists for sure, but for different reasons. Christians have been duped to believe they are going to hell if they don't protect Israel at all costs...just ask me, I'm one who was duped into believing that until I started researching the truth. Tones
 
So after reading some gut-wrenching anti-Israel leftism, I was thinking about the real motive that the US would have to fund both sides of the Israeli-Arab conflict and what motives the Arabs really have to destroy Israel.

Then it occurred to me.. has our foreign policy gotten to the point where, for some reason or another, we want the conflict to go on without end for a long time? Billions in foreign aid to both sides, open relationships with Bush visiting both sides, huge trade with both sides in terms of oil for the Arab nations and tech/military intelligence etc. from the Israeli side. Maybe there's some reason the US wants this fight to go on? Paul always talked about how our foreign aid to Israel keeps them on a leash, and prevents them from working out their own peace accords. The Christian Right in the US, one of the influences that any Paul supporter would have to concede is responsible for corrupting the Republican party, is far more against a two-state solution than all but the most religious Israelis. Chances are that the US does more to hamper peace efforts than help.

Your first problem is you think this all started with Bush. Wake up. Clinton did it and all the others before them since WWII.
 
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