Iraqi PM: Soleimani was in Iraq to discuss Iran-Saudi de-escalation when he was killed

[enhanced_deficit]

Who stands to lose most if Iran-Saudi tensions got de-escalated?
If this is confirmed to be part of some conspiracy to stop de-escalation between Iran and Saudi and keep wars temperature high, Deep Neocons could be in big trouble in 2020 elections.


[h=2]Iraqi prime minister says Qassem Soleimani was in Iraq to 'discuss de-escalating tensions between Iran and Saudis' when he was killed - and claims Trump had asked for help mediating talks after embassy attack[/h]

• Iraq's caretaker prime minister, Adel Abdul Mahdi, told his parliament in Baghdad on Sunday that US strike on Soleimani was a 'political assassination'
• Abdul Mahdi claimed that Soleimani was due to meet with him on the same day that he was killed by a US drone near the Baghdad airport early on Friday
• The outgoing Iraqi leader says that Soleimani was supposed to bring him Iran's response to a Saudi proposal for de-escalating regional tensions
• Saudi Arabia, a regional rival, blames Iran for an attack on the kingdom's oil facilities in September
• Abdul Mahdi also claims that President Trump called him and asked him to mediate talks with Iran after the US embassy in Baghdad was nearly overrun
• Supporters of the Shiite group Kataib Hezbollah scaled the walls and barreled through security at the US embassy in Baghdad on Tuesday
• Abdul Mahdi said he personally intervened to defuse the embassy crisis and that the American president thanked him for doing so

By Ariel Zilber For Dailymail.com and Associated Press and Afp

Published: 19:44 EST, 5 January 2020

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...government-website-retaliation-airstrike.html

 

[Swordsmyth]

We all know how much his word is worth now that it can't be confirmed.

 

[AngryCanadian]

We all know how much his word is worth now that it can't be confirmed.

Well we know how much worth Trump's word whenever Trump opens his mouth or tweet for that matter.

 

[Warlord]

The Saudi's set him up...

 

[shakey1]

The Saudi's set him up...

wouldn’t surprise me.

 

[oyarde]

The Saudi's set him up...

That's how I would do it , only I would expect the prey too smart to take the bait .

 

[devil21]

Any real war (in appearance, at least) will be between Iran and the Saudis, not the US and Iran. Spoiler alert: Saudis lose. Something has to happen to publicly to act as a cover story to break the Saudi>US petrodollar standard.

A paraphrase quote from a high Saudi "royal" some years ago: "My grandfather rode a camel. My father rode in a car. I ride in a Mercedes. My grandchildren will ride a camel."

 

[angelatc]

The Saudi's set him up...

That would explain quite a bit.

 

[angelatc]

That's how I would do it , only I would expect the prey too smart to take the bait .

As I said in another thread, it is quite possible he was willing to martyr himself to advance his cause. He was not a young man.

 

[dannno]

Trump Assassinated the Iranian Regime's Top CIA Asset...
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...sassinated-the-Iranian-Regime-s-Top-CIA-Asset


It makes sense that the Iraqi PM is CIA also, and they want to evict US troops because the CIA is no longer in control of the US government and the US military, thanks to Trump.

Also, my thread mentions that Soleimani was carrying a bioweapon to Iraq, he was not going there to make peace.

 

[Sammy]

I don't know. Because I don't trust the MSM!

 

[dannno]

I don't know. Because I don't trust the MSM!

 

[angelatc]

Trump Assassinated the Iranian Regime's Top CIA Asset...
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...sassinated-the-Iranian-Regime-s-Top-CIA-Asset


It makes sense that the Iraqi PM is CIA also, and they want to evict US troops because the CIA is no longer in control of the US government and the US military, thanks to Trump.

Also, my thread mentions that Soleimani was carrying a bioweapon to Iraq, he was not going there to make peace.

I am sorry nobody is reading your latest chapter of "everybody and everything is the CIA!", but please stop spamming the thread.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Soleimani Was in Baghdad on Mission for Saudi Peace
Iraqi PM says Soleimani was supposed to deliver reply to Saudi message
Jason Ditz - January 5, 2020

On Thursday night, the US assassinated top Iranian Gen. Qassam Soleimani in a drone strike at Baghdad International Airport. His arrival was actually part of ongoing diplomatic efforts, according to Iraqi PM Adel Abdul-Mahdi.

Soleimani’s visit was related to well-documented Saudi attempts at diplomacy to ease tensions with Iran. The Saudis had dispatched a message of peace to Iran, with Iraq acting as an intermediary. Soleimani was coming to Iraq to deliver the Iranian government’s reply.

The US assassination, then, undercut the peace effort to an enormous level. Iraq was keen to facilitate peace between its two neighbors, hopefully to calm down US threats against Iran. Instead, the US undercut the entire process.
...
More: https://news.antiwar.com/2020/01/05/soleimani-was-in-baghdad-on-mission-for-saudi-peace/

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Soleimani was to deliver Tehran's reply to Saudi de-escalation letter when killed: Iraqi PM
Sunday - 05 January 2020

Iraq's Caretaker Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi has said that Lieutenant General Qassem Soleimani was set to deliver Tehran's reply to an earlier Saudi message regarding de-escalation talks mediated by Baghdad when he was assassinated.

Abdul-Mahdi made the remarks during an extraordinary parliamentary session in the capital which led to the adoption of a law demanding the withdrawal of US forces from the country on Sunday, the National Iraqi News Agency reported.

The premier said that he was due to meet Soleimani at 8:30 am local time on Friday before the US assassinated the general a few hours earlier.

The revelations come as Baghdad has been mediating talks between Tehran and Riyadh following a recent uptick of tensions the region.

Sunday's parliamentary vote was held in response to Washington's Friday airstrikes targeting Soleimani and his comrades.

Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the second-in-command of Iraq's Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) was also killed in the attack.
...
The Sunday vote comes as many Iraqi figures and parliamentary factions have been long demanding the withdrawal of US troops from the country, specifically following a series of unclaimed airstrikes on PMU forces.

Abdul-Mahdi also revealed in his Sunday remarks that Washington had confirmed to Baghdad that Tel Aviv was behind a number of the attacks.

"America informed us that Israel bombed the warehouses of the PMU last summer," he said, calling on the parliament to take all measures to end the presence of foreign forces in Iraq.
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More: https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/01/05/615466/Soleimani-reply-to-Saudi-letter

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The Saudi's set him up...

Maybe. Or Trump’s neoconservative advisors (Kushner, Pence, Pompeo, Graham, Rubio) took advantage of knowing about it...

 

[Swordsmyth]

Soleimani was to deliver Tehran's reply to Saudi de-escalation letter when killed: Iraqi PM
Sunday - 05 January 2020

It's not surprising that Iranian allies would attempt to come up with a story that makes their guy look like a saint and Trump look evil.

All we have is their word.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

It's not surprising that Iranian allies would attempt to come up with a story that makes their guy look like a saint and Trump look evil.

All we have is their word.

You never know, but as Ron and Daniel mentioned in today’s Liberty Report, he seemed comfortable coming to Iraq. And how would anyone know when and where to target him if this wasn’t a well known and planned trip? He probably felt safer traveling with his Iraqi counterpart.

They also mentioned on the Liberty Report that some establishment reports are coming out now that Trump’s advisers proposed this assassination as a crazy, extreme, throw away idea in hopes of getting some other less extreme actions. And they were surprised that Trump agreed with it.

The options included striking Iranian ships, missile facilities, or Iranian-backed militia groups in Iraq, The Times said.

The officials offered the option of killing Soleimani mainly to make the others seem more appealing, which The Times described as a common tactic for US officials advising presidents.
...
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-had-menu-for-iran-strike-but-chose-soleimani-2020-1

WASHINGTON — In the chaotic days leading to the death of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s most powerful commander, top American military officials put the option of killing him — which they viewed as the most extreme response to recent Iranian-led violence in Iraq — on the menu they presented to President Trump.

They didn’t think he would take it. In the wars waged since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Pentagon officials have often offered improbable options to presidents to make other possibilities appear more palatable.

After initially rejecting the Suleimani option on Dec. 28 and authorizing airstrikes on an Iranian-backed Shiite militia group instead, a few days later Mr. Trump watched, fuming, as television reports showed Iranian-backed attacks on the American Embassy in Baghdad, according to Defense Department and administration officials.

By late Thursday, the president had gone for the extreme option. Top Pentagon officials were stunned.

But some officials voiced private skepticism about the rationale for a strike on General Suleimani, who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American troops over the years. According to one United States official, the new intelligence indicated “a normal Monday in the Middle East” — Dec. 30 — and General Suleimani’s travels amounted to “business as usual.”

That official described the intelligence as thin and said that General Suleimani’s attack was not imminent because of communications the United States had between Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and General Suleimani showing that the ayatollah had not yet approved any plans by the general for an attack. The ayatollah, according to the communications, had asked General Suleimani to come to Tehran for further discussions at least a week before his death.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Vice President Mike Pence were two of the most hawkish voices arguing for a response to Iranian aggression, according to administration officials.
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More: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/04/us/politics/trump-suleimani.html

 

[Swordsmyth]

You never know, but as Ron and Daniel mentioned in today’s Liberty Report, he seemed comfortable coming to Iraq.

He was comfortable going all over the Middle East and he thought that Iran was in control of Iraq and that Trump wouldn't dare to buck the deepstate and target him.

And how would anyone know when and where to target him if this wasn’t a well known and planned trip? He probably felt safer traveling with his Iraqi counterpart.

They had been tracking him for years.

Precision drone strikes rely on detailed intelligence, and Soleimani was kept under near-constant surveillance by US, Saudi and Israeli security forces.
The New York Times reported that the Pentagon used highly classified information from informants, electronic intercepts, reconnaissance aircraft and other surveillance techniques to track the Iranian general’s movements.

More at: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...aser-guided-Hellfire-missile-fired-drone.html

They also mentioned on the Liberty Report that some establishment reports are coming out now that Trump’s advisers proposed this assassination as a crazy, extreme, throw away idea in hopes of getting some other less extreme actions. And they were surprised that Trump agreed with it.

That's not worth a thing but if we pretend to believe it then it would only indicate that the deepstate didn't want this.
The response the deepstate wanted was a strike in Iran that would start an actual war and they wanted Suleimani alive to continue creating provocations to get it.
Iran's leaders thought they could do the bidding of the deepstate and be protected and Trump let them know that they would not be safe.

 

[shakey1]

The truth may never be known.