Iraq War Officially Begins: US Troops Prepare For Rollout As US Drones Strike ISIS Position

[pcosmar]

The troops are back off of the mountain already. Mission complete. CNN says they went there 24 hours ago and have already vacated. They were aware but withheld the info from the public for national security reasons.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/13/world/meast/iraq-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Other reports said that US troops had been there for a week. While they were still saying "no troops on the ground".
Not sure how much bullshit to believe.

 

[jkr]

UM
i didnt approve that...

 

[phill4paul]

You posted this in response to my quote,

Azâzêl (a devil) is the god that these people worship..

Of all the atrocities, both in Syria and in Iraq,,, These are the folks that the US rescues.

It would not surprise me to see this turn the new leadership of Iraq to side with the ISIS,, and against the US.

I'm an Animist, Pete. After sorting through all that I have studied I can't describe it any more than that given our human descriptions. Good/Evil, it is all relative. I wouldn't even care if our government were rescuing Christians. I just don't care anymore. Is our government corrupt? Yes. Is it "Satanical" from a Christian perspective. I'd vote yes. But in the end, to me, it comes down to humans divorcing themselves from nature. And, in doing so, being hellbent for extermination. If not by their own accord then by nature.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

This badly needs updating...

AWESOME!

Where can I get a copy of this T-shirt...

-t

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

No. I use to routinely fly low over that mountain.

Our military could easily defend it. And wipe out IS that is on the ground there.

Ever read a book called "fly the biggest piece back". It's largely about low level mountain flying.

It's never mentioned in the book but this is the outfit that trained Air America pilots prior to deployment in Laos.

Anyplace on that mountain large enough for an airstrip. say C-130's...

-t

 

[Christian Liberty]

I honestly hope the whole lot of them, those that allow their boots to be put on that ground, are massacred. I hope every helicopter inserted is reduced to ashes. Maybe then those that "serve" ("serve" who exactly?) will say "fuck you", this is not a defense of my homeland and I'll not be a participant.

I disagree, though I understand your point. "The troops" certainly aren't the good guys here.

I "hope" that ISIS is wiped out, civilian casualties are minimal or better yet, none, and Christians are given their religious freedom back, or at least as much as they had under Saddam. But I'm not naive enough to think there's even a 10% chance of that happening, and if it does, it will be despite the US, not because of it. And, you don't get accolades for fixing a problem you created.

Even still, I don't really wish death on the people that are duped into fighting, although, when they get home and start shilling for more bloodshed (Chris Kyle) I get kind of cold when their own swords stab them in the back.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

So tired of this Bullshit... look over here, Bright Shiny Thingy... Washington DC has fucked up so badly on so many fronts for foreign and domestically, they need a huge distraction of fear/alarm.

The real deal is Ukraine-NATO-Zionist operations/game plan while destroying America's sovereignty and rights.

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[TheTexan]

These ISIS guys are terrorists though; the worst of the worst. These people have killed countless women & children, with zero regret or remorse. The people that they kill haven't even done anything to them to deserve it! They follow a different religion, but that's obviously not justification for mass murder!

These ISIS people are ruthless murderers who need to be stopped, and apparently only the US has both the capability and the moral imperative to do just that. We really need to take the moral high ground on this one and show them that their kind of behavior is not to be tolerated.

 

[AngryCanadian]

These ISIS guys are terrorists though; the worst of the worst. These people have killed countless women & children, with zero regret or remorse. The people that they kill haven't even done anything to them to deserve it! They follow a different religion, but that's obviously not justification for mass murder!

These ISIS people are ruthless murderers who need to be stopped, and apparently only the US has both the capability and the moral imperative to do just that. We really need to take the moral high ground on this one and show them that their kind of behavior is not to be tolerated.

The ISIS didn't exist around 2012 they only emerged in 2013 near Syria and in Syria. I have an reason to suspect that the American gov created the ISIS in order to support its war driven happy go triggers and the arms industry.


Even those whom were agaisnt the war in Iraq in 2003 are now for bringing the troops back. Ironic isn't it? you create an enemy the public will start digging in it all over.

 

[Lucille]

Sadly, I saw some polling.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?457861-Poll-65-Support-U-S-Airstrikes-In-Iraq-23-Oppose

 

[navy-vet]

These ISIS guys are terrorists though; the worst of the worst. These people have killed countless women & children, with zero regret or remorse. The people that they kill haven't even done anything to them to deserve it! They follow a different religion, but that's obviously not justification for mass murder!

These ISIS people are ruthless murderers who need to be stopped, and apparently only the US has both the capability and the moral imperative to do just that. We really need to take the moral high ground on this one and show them that their kind of behavior is not to be tolerated.

Pretty much how I see it too. It's a mess we appear to be largely responsible for, so that IMO obligates us to help the Kurds. We need to get the UN and Turks involved and in the meantime, provide some air support to keep the ISIS monsters at bay, deliver humanitarian supplies, sell small arms to the Kurds and avoid getting mired in the mess any more than we currently are.

 

[devil21]

Pretty much how I see it too. It's a mess we appear to be largely responsible for, so that IMO obligates us to help the Kurds. We need to get the UN and Turks involved and in the meantime, provide some air support to keep the ISIS monsters at bay, deliver humanitarian supplies, sell small arms to the Kurds and avoid getting mired in the mess any more than we currently are.

This whole Iraq thing demonstrates why most of those types of countries need dictators. They're not ready for, nor hospitable to, any form of democratic or republican representative government. This is why the notion of "spreading democracy" is such a propaganda joke.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

This whole Iraq thing demonstrates why most of those types of countries need dictators. They're not ready for, nor hospitable to, any form of democratic or republican representative government. This is why the notion of "spreading democracy" is such a propaganda joke.

The right funding and propaganda mind control and you can get any group to attack another for the most trivial of means. Government spends Billions controlling the proletariat and inciting groups... heck the Eff Bee Aye does it on a regular basis domestically, now just imagine the Billions spent by multiple western nations and their Middle East cohorts in fabricating the ideologies/radical leaders/groups to attack overseas.

Just like the garbage politicians/government and media do to turn one group upon another, well crafted covert plans to incite and ignite hatred and death is quite easy. Now go get that Monster!

 

[navy-vet]

This whole Iraq thing demonstrates why most of those types of countries need dictators. They're not ready for, nor hospitable to, any form of democratic or republican representative government. This is why the notion of "spreading democracy" is such a propaganda joke.

You'll get no argument from me devil, regarding Iraq and the establishment of a fair and just form of governance like a constitutional republic or something similar. I must admit however, that I was hopeful a few years back that we might be able to help them as well as Afghanistan to find freedom and justice through the establishment of a government like ours used to be, or like I thought it was anyway. I can't say that I was very optimistic though, just hopeful.


I do however believe that our influences and nation building efforts following WW2 left West Germany, Japan, the Philippines as well as several other countries much better off than they were during and even before the war. The Marshall Plan for example, was for the greatest part, quite successful I believe.


In fact, didn't we require some foreign assistance from France to win our independence from King George and establish the greatest empire the world has yet to see?
My main point being that there was a time when we were quite good at nation building. At least perhaps when we still had ours.