IQ Scores of Rep. Pres. Hopefuls (2008 Campaign)

[nate895]

Remember another thing about IQ: it measure your "intelligence quotient," meaning how smart you could be. You could have an IQ of 200 and be stupid because you refuse to read, or an IQ of 110 and be an ivy league professor.

 

[wgadget]

I always KNEW Ron Paul was the smartest candidate...

 

[mczerone]

The average adult, last time I heard, was 114.

Do you understand Standard Deviations and Fixed-Scale scoring?

The mean of the population's score is Designed to be 100. It doesn't matter what you "heard last".

And it is entirely possible that the average IQ taker's score is 114 - only smarter people seek out testing generally, but the US population's Average adult score is Defined to be 100.

 

[StarKissed]

What does matter, is McCain's Social IQ....HA! He's been hiding his insanity during this campaign....it cost him the election before. Wait till he's in office. He's a T-Y-R-A-N-T !!! I'm really surprized he hasn't blown yet. Ah, but there's still time.

And there are 152,000 articles/posts about McCain = Tyrant on Google.

IQ has very little to do with the quality of a leader. An understanding of human nature and a good sense of right and wrong will take you much further. I say this as a person with a very respectable IQ score.

 

[StarKissed]

Very True

.....but the US population's Average adult score is Defined to be 100.

 

[Kludge]

McCain isn't stupid, he's manipulative.

 

[nate895]

Do you understand Standard Deviations and Fixed-Scale scoring?

The mean of the population's score is Designed to be 100. It doesn't matter what you "heard last".

And it is entirely possible that the average IQ taker's score is 114 - only smarter people seek out testing generally, but the US population's Average adult score is Defined to be 100.

All I've heard, which I don't really care much about IQ testing since my mind can be better used to remember more important things, but that there are 6 major categories: Genius (above 160), Superior Intellect (140-159), Average or slightly above (100-139), Moron (80-99), Idiot (40-79), and Imbecile (1-39).

 

[LibertyIn08]

Above 130, the scores become rather meaningless. Above 160, even more so.

By the way, the previously posted scale has fallen out of use. Imbecile, Idiot, and Moron are no longer generally accepted terms in intelligence studies.

 

[Kludge]

"Bill Clinton
IQ Score of 159"

Jimmy Carter
IQ Score of 156

I refuse to believe Clinton OR Carter is "smarter" then Cool Cal.

Edit: On the same website is

"Bill Clinton
IQ Score 137"

 

[tomcr]

mensa member Ron

Mensa (of which I used to be a dues paying member) has as it's minimum qualification an IQ score in the top 2%, which they put at the IQ of 130. An IQ of 145 is in the one in 1000 range. IQs above one in 100,000 or so are difficult to accurately quantify (I don't care what anyone says).
Further, the British Army found decades ago that if there were more than two standard deviations in intelligence between the leader and the led (in either direction), major problems were the result. Ron's strength and his weakness is his intelligence and education.

"IQ Scores & Ratings
What is a good IQ score? What is a high IQ score? What is a low IQ score? These are common questions, particularly after someone finds out their score from an IQ test.

Lewis Terman (1916) developed the original notion of IQ and proposed this scale for classifying IQ scores:

Over 140 - Genius or near genius

120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence

110 - 119 - Superior intelligence

90 - 109 - Normal or average intelligence

80 - 89 - Dullness

70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency

Under 70 - Definite feeble-mindedness"

http://www.wilderdom.com/intelligence/IQWhatScoresMean.html
I think he's around 95.

 

[LibertyIn08]

"Bill Clinton
IQ Score of 159"

I refuse to believe Clinton is "smarter" then Cool Cal.

It is a direct reflection of the use(lessness) of the IQ test past a certain point.

 

[josephadel_3]

Mensa (of which I used to be a dues paying member) has as it's minimum qualification an IQ score in the top 2%, which they put at the IQ of 130. An IQ of 145 is in the one in 1000 range. IQs above one in 100,000 or so are difficult to accurately quantify (I don't care what anyone says).
Further, the British Army found decades ago that if there were more than two standard deviations in intelligence between the leader and the led (in either direction), major problems were the result. Ron's strength and his weakness is his intelligence and education.

Wow, that's amazing about the British Army.

 

[Jon4Ron]

Well if you have any misconceptions about whether this means you can or will be President. I have one word for you. GEORGE!

 

[pinkmandy]

Further, the British Army found decades ago that if there were more than two standard deviations in intelligence between the leader and the led (in either direction), major problems were the result. Ron's strength and his weakness is his intelligence and education.

Well that explains

1. Why we love him and feel he is the ONLY choice
2. Why the sheep don't love him and call him "fringe"

Makes perfect sense. I've always thought RP supporters were mostly above average in intellect.

 

[pacelli]

I'm a psychologist, I've given thousands of IQ tests. These online IQ tests are amusing, but are not valid nor reliable measures of the construct of intelligence. Intelligence is generally thought of a someone's multidimensional problem solving ability (i.e. multiple cognitive and motor-based domains).

IQ tests provide an estimation of intelligence and are not free of error. In other words, they are not the end-all be-all summary of someone's intellectual skills.

Bonafide IQ tests are not perfect, even one that is considered the 'gold standard' in IQ testing (the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale). Even this test is highly biased against ethnic minorities such as African Americans and Hispanics. The standardization sample which is the basis of comparison for each person who takes the test included a majority of Caucasian individuals. Simply put, intelligence tests are heavily culture-loaded.

There are also age-related declines and advances in a person's intelligence estimate over time. Intelligence is a flexible construct that requires a fair amount of testing to gain an accurate estimate.

Sadly, 'free and fun' online intelligence tests do not include motor-based tasks which comprise 50% of someone's final IQ score in an actual testing environment.

Some of the IQ categories and their descriptions provided in this thread are horribly outdated and I am ethically obligated to post the correct categories as defined by the Wechsler test. These categories ONLY apply to the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Test (3rd revision).

130 and above......Very Superior

120-129..............Superior

110-119..............High Average

90-109...............Average

80-89.................Low Average

70-79.................Borderline

69 and Below.......Extremely Low

I have not seen any publically available WAIS-III profiles for any of the presidential candidates. Therefore, it is difficult to provide an estimation of intelligence in the absence of data.

In my non-professional and personal opinion, there are also no known "manchurian candidate" IQ tests published in the public domain, so I think McCain is in a class all his own

 

[UnitedWeStand]

This is why I love my meetup group so much. It is very obvious that everyone who supports Ron Paul is very intelligent. I love being around them. Plus, I don't feel any pressure to convert them to Ron Paul=) Everyone who walks in the room is my new best friend!

For the same reason, a big grouping of Ron Paul fans is a strange and wonderful experience. At the Lake Jackson rally a few weeks ago, I was so relaxed and happy. There was so much comraderie and good vibes being smiled around the room. Everyone was so geniunely thrilled to be there and in the company of so many others.

I am used to feeling anxious, angry or worn out after being around a large crowd of people. Reading the emotions and situations of a lot of strangers can be a terrible experience. But the rally was so different. We need to all get together more often.

 

[golfboy]

it is truly an honor to vote for someone smarter than me.

 

[Sentient Void]

Thank you for fixing this thread, pacelli.

I was rather bothered by almost any and all claims made in this thread in regards to presidential IQs, the importance of "IQ" et cetera.

 

[Russellk30]

IQ has very little to do with the quality of a leader. An understanding of human nature and a good sense of right and wrong will take you much further. I say this as a person with a very respectable IQ score.

In other words, "evil genius" is not an oxymoron.

 

[Russellk30]

I always KNEW Ron Paul was the smartest candidate...

Whats with the caps? I dont get it.