Ipsos/Reuters NATIONAL Poll: Ron Paul at 16%, second best against Obama

[KingNothing]

Yea, plus Ron and Perry have never attacked each other in ads,

Say what? Paul started Perry's fall. He put a chink in Perry's armor with an AWESOME ad and made him vulnerable to attack. Everyone else pounced in the debates and Perry faltered.

 

[Krugerrand]

Nah, there is definitely a market for Business Man Mitt and Cowboy, Governor-of-a-Big-State Perry. I just don't see where Gingrich and Santorum can possibly be drawing support from. Why on Earth would anyone prefer Gingrich to Romney? They have the same record, basically, and Mitt is less... you know... evil. Why would anyone support Santorum? Perry has those "traditional conservative" values, with a similar amount of Big Government baggage but a Governor's pedigree. Paul should own the vote of anyone who cares about principle, Small Government, low taxes, humble foreign policy, etc.

I'd go along with everything you're saying on Mitt ... if he were running as a Democrat. He's the architect of our current National Health Care disaster. He's as big a big-government guy as you can get. He has a history of animosity towards the 2nd amendment. There is nothing GOP about the guy that should merit him being a contender for the nomination, much less a leading contender.

Santorum talks a good conservative game. It's the walk the walk part that doesn't take much investigation to scratch him from the list. I'm not sure what the Slime to Evil ratio is for Gingrich ... but whatever it is, it reeks.

How does a governor's mansion instill pedigree? Perry has shown himself to be about 3 notches lower than an intellectual light-weight. Remember the Bank of America video where they "have him covered." Remember the money his campaign made by passing Gardisill laws? There is nothing GOP about states usurping parental rights/obligations involving the healthcare decisions of their children. His connections reek of establishment and corruption.

I had hope for Bachman years back, but that hope has long since vanished. The current slate of candidates, sans Paul, should be a cause for shame and embarrassment for the GOP. They aren't even worthy to drive taxi for the delegates from the airport to the convention.

 

[KingNothing]

I'd go along with everything you're saying on Mitt ... if he were running as a Democrat. He's the architect of our current National Health Care disaster. He's as big a big-government guy as you can get. He has a history of animosity towards the 2nd amendment. There is nothing GOP about the guy that should merit him being a contender for the nomination, much less a leading contender.

Still, he just screams "Rockefeller Republican" to me and they certainly had a place in American politics. I'm not defending them, I'm not supporting Mitt, I'm just saying that I could see how voters could be taken in by his "business" background and rhetoric.

How does a governor's mansion instill pedigree?

He won a major state. That counts for something. It means he can campaign and he can win.

Perry has shown himself to be about 3 notches lower than an intellectual light-weight. Remember the Bank of America video where they "have him covered." Remember the money his campaign made by passing Gardisill laws? There is nothing GOP about states usurping parental rights/obligations involving the healthcare decisions of their children. His connections reek of establishment and corruption.

I agree with all of this. But, again, all I'm saying is that I'm surprised his atrocious record meant more to voters than Santorum's. Santorum has no redeeming quality. Perry's got swagger and seems like a fun guy. He's like Bush, only more so. What does Santorum have? Weird that Perry lost out to him.

 

[JTforRP]

Slow and steady....

 

[Matthew Zak]

"Ron Paul has a 10% ceiling".

"Ron Paul has an 11... wait, a 12%... 13%?"

"Ron Paul has a ceiling."

 

[Sunstruck-Eden]

"Ron Paul has a 10% ceiling".

"Ron Paul has an 11... wait, a 12%... 13%?"

"Ron Paul has a ceiling."

"And in today, our analysts suggest that Ron Paul has a ceiling of 49.9% Obviously, that's not enough to beat President Obama so on to Romney we go!"

 

[bbartlog]

Nice to see Gingrich fall. He should become even more self-defeatingly vicious and petulant once Paul overtakes him in national polling. Plus I suspect Romney's superPAC may fire back at Gingrich after the nastiness that his superPAC unloaded on Romney.

 

[jersdream]

Yea, plus Ron and Perry have never attacked each other in ads, and have barely gone at it in debates too, and its best Ron keep it that way for when Perry drops out, this way his supporters wont be alienated badly and some may come over like with Cain.

Are you kidding me???

 

[TexMac]

The CBS poll had Ron statistically tied with Obama yesterday, one point behind, but had Romney 2 pts ahead of Obama. this one has Romney 5 points down from Obama and Ron 7 points down. The next closest gives Obama a double digit lead.

Romney 30%
Gingrich 20%
Ron Paul 16%
Santorum 13%

considering how little the other states even know Ron, this is encouraging.

oops! Link: http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=5466 :o:

Why use the Republican only numbers? I thought this polll hadn't been posted at first because I thought I'd see a thread celebrating Ron being tied for SECOND NATIONALLY.

http://argojournal.blogspot.com/2012/01/poll-watch-reutersipsos-2012-republican.html