Invasion USA

[Anti Federalist]

 

[TheTexan]

Borders persist chiefly for commerce, rarely for preservation. “Nations” of people have become “states” of populations, administrative shells devoid of conviction, while those within them drift without purpose. A civilization that once found destiny in creation now measures virtue through surrender.

This inversion has left the West incapable of defending its own existence. It cannot speak of heritage without apology or affirm continuity without guilt. Its moral vocabulary condemns the instincts that sustain life, such as loyalty, hierarchy, and rootedness, and in the pursuit of universal peace, it has disarmed its spirit.

This is why I want them kicked out and I don't really give a damn what it costs in terms of freedom. @PAF can lecture me all he wants about the surveillance state, 4th amendment whatever that is, etc, none of it is as important.

The globalists are on a century long mission to destroy the concept of a nation and they are winning. Nations are the last barrier, the only barrier, to their agenda.

So while the fight for this nation specifically is important, we are in a fight for all nations.

If we're not allowed to have a culture, if we're not allowed to have identity, nothing else matters. We'll all end up one homogenized compliant blob that is wholly incapable of mounting any kind of resistance because we lack even the smallest modicum of trust and cohesion amongst each other.

It's what they want and I won't have it, fuck Juan, fuck Fidel, and if they have to raid low income apartments full of minorities to get them deported that's just fine with me. Do it twice just in case they missed someone.

 

[TheTexan]

I could argue that killing an awful lot of people in pursuit of some extremely beautiful ideas is far worse.

Are you referring to Hitler killing people or America killing people because both killed a ton of people in pursuit of a beautiful idea

 

[Danke]

Are you referring to Hitler killing people or America killing people because both killed a ton of people in pursuit of a beautiful idea

Hitler is in Heaven.

 

[PAF]

This is why I want them kicked out and I don't really give a damn what it costs in terms of freedom. @PAF can lecture me all he wants about the surveillance state, 4th amendment whatever that is, etc, none of it is as important.

The globalists are on a century long mission to destroy the concept of a nation and they are winning. Nations are the last barrier, the only barrier, to their agenda.

The concept of our nation is the 4th Amendment and the other natural rights [outlined in the Bill of Rights]. That is in fact what the Technocratic Globalists are trying to destroy, and the reason they are succeeding is because people are willing to trade them in for security. The "century long mission", which goes back even further than a century [the central constitution], was even formally outlined in print in the Technocracy Handbook written in the 1930's.

So while the fight for this nation specifically is important, we are in a fight for all nations.

Once the Bill of Rights and the Land of the Free Home of the Brave is totally gone, other nations will no longer have that beacon of liberty to look upon as a model and symbol of hope.

If we're not allowed to have a culture, if we're not allowed to have identity, nothing else matters. We'll all end up one homogenized compliant blob that is wholly incapable of mounting any kind of resistance because we lack even the smallest modicum of trust and cohesion amongst each other.

Get color and race out of your head. Some people are whiter than a ghost, some like me are olive-skinned, some are dark, but the true culture and identity in America is/was our desire and the defending of liberty and freedom which was the greatest in the world. That's the cohesion we should be working toward, instead of ripping it to shreds to the point that trust and cohesion no longer exist and the Technocrats will "save and protect" us to the point of slavery.

It's what they want and I won't have it, fuck Juan, fuck Fidel, and if they have to raid low income apartments full of minorities to get them deported that's just fine with me. Do it twice just in case they missed someone.

Fidel didn't comply with the Fed.gov; he wasn't "documented" and registered as a slave in a government database. That, to me, is worth defending and fighting for. Otherwise you play right into the hands of the WEF/U.N. where every man, woman and child will be chipped, databased and tracked no matter where one goes in the world, and not only will you no longer have a Bill of Rights to push back government abuses, you will have to abide by carbon credits and social credit scores laid out by the Globalist Technocrats running regional/global governments.

@TheTexan, what you don't realize is, this whole fiasco was manufactured in order to coerce people into advancing the Technocratic goals. And whether you see it or not, or understand it or not, other ill-informed people are buying into it, and we must do whatever we can to inform them.

The only defense to preserve our "nation and culture" is to defend and protect our individual rights [outlined in the Bill of Rights] and not give the Globalists the leverage that they are working so hard to achieve.

And if you don't want Fidel around simply because he didn't comply with fed.gov, worry about and/or set up your own small-cell community and leave the rest of us in our small-cell communities alone. Shipping him back because he wasn't "documented" only advances the Globalists goal. The one thing we all should all work toward is the preservation of our individual natural rights outlined in the Bill of Rights, and not succumb to the Technocrats who don't give a fuck about you, me or Fidel. That is how you defend protect and protect our "culture and our nation" which is outlined in the Bill of Rights.

 

[TheTexan]

Fidel didn't comply with the Fed.gov; he wasn't "documented" and registered as a slave in a government database. That, to me, is worth defending and fighting for. Otherwise you play right into the hands of the WEF/U.N. where every man, woman and child will be chipped, databased and tracked no matter where one goes in the world, and not only will you no longer have a Bill of Rights to push back government abuses, you will have to abide by carbon credits and social credit scores laid out by the Globalist Technocrats running regional/global governments.

Fidel was  trespassing and if we dont boot him out we are eroding both the concepts of nations and the concept of private property.

That, to me, is worth defending and fighting for. Otherwise you play right into the hands of the WEF/U.N. where every man, woman and child will be chipped, databased and tracked no matter where one goes in the world, and not only will you no longer have a Bill of Rights to push back government abuses, you will have to abide by carbon credits and social credit scores laid out by the Globalist Technocrats running regional/global governments.

 

[otherone]

Fidel was  trespassing and if we dont boot him out we are eroding both the concepts of nations and the concept of private property.

That, to me, is worth defending and fighting for. Otherwise you play right into the hands of the WEF/U.N. where every man, woman and child will be chipped, databased and tracked no matter where one goes in the world, and not only will you no longer have a Bill of Rights to push back government abuses, you will have to abide by carbon credits and social credit scores laid out by the Globalist Technocrats running regional/global governments.

I'm not sure that PAF is an American, at least not in affect. I'm not saying that being American is the most awesomist thing, but frankly, it is our thing. I guess the question is, should there be a limit of how many "migrants" can be here? PAF would say no, of course. Because Rights. He is ultimately arguing a self-defeating ideology. Destruction of Rights to protect them.

 

[oyarde]

I'm not sure that PAF is an American, at least not in affect. I'm not saying that being American is the most awesomist thing, but frankly, it is our thing. I guess the question is, should there be a limit of how many "migrants" can be here? PAF would say no, of course. Because Rights. He is ultimately arguing a self-defeating ideology. Destruction of Rights to protect them.

yes , should be strict limits

 

[PAF]

I'm not sure that PAF is an American, at least not in affect. I'm not saying that being American is the most awesomist thing, but frankly, it is our thing. I guess the question is, should there be a limit of how many "migrants" can be here? PAF would say no, of course. Because Rights. He is ultimately arguing a self-defeating ideology. Destruction of Rights to protect them.

The statist runs to the teacher to solve their problems and protect them, whereas the libertarian suggests we take personal responsibility for our own lives and choices, like adults.​

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Immigration Controls Destroy the Liberty and Privacy of the American People​

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[PAF]

yes , should be strict limits

No, there shouldn't. It is no different than government "regulating" anything else. It is statist, it is Socialist. It is nothing but a game of volley-ball, where democrats let them in, republicans force them out [behind closed doors they both participate], and each time we continue to lose more rights as a result of it. The only solution is to get government out of the business once and for all and let market conditions decide.

Quit being a closet Socialist. Seriously, it's very unbecoming.

 

[Anti Federalist]

 

[Anti Federalist]

 

[otherone]

The statist runs to the teacher to solve their problems and protect them, whereas the libertarian suggests we take personal responsibility for our own lives and choices, like adults.​

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As someone who has been a staunch libertarian for many years, I’ve had a lot of opportunities to witness dialogues about liberty, both as a participant and as an observer. I’ve noticed a recurring theme in these conversations: non-libertarians almost inevitably call libertarian ideas childish...

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Immigration Controls Destroy the Liberty and Privacy of the American People​

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"you can't hug a child with nuclear arms" You're gonna make me cry. Not sure that's legal under sharia law, I guess we'll find out, like adults.

 

[Danke]

Why is it even necessary in the modern world? Clocks everywhere, people have watches and phones with alarms, etc.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Why is it even necessary in the modern world? Clocks everywhere, people have watches and phones with alarms, etc.

The Islamic muezzin's call to adhan, in Western countries certainly, is a five times daily reminder that you are conquered.

 

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[Anti Federalist]

 

[PAF]

Sounds like what U.S. Ex-Pats go through when they go to other countries. Perhaps you would advocate the imprisonment of Americans to prevent me/them from going to other countries too?

To qualify, migrants must have a U.S.-based financial sponsor who vouches for them, and they must fly into an American airport at their own expense, rather than crossing the southern border. Sponsors and migrants undergo rigorous screening by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).​

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The DHS has also recently implemented additional procedures to prevent fraud and exploitation.​

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The agency responded by tightening vetting measures, including the requirement for sponsors to provide fingerprints and undergo more comprehensive financial checks.​

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If it was up to me, I would get government completely out of the business and let market conditions determine who comes and goes. And if someone happens to commit a crime, abide by the BoR's and go through the same process Americans do - which is what already happens for the most part.


@Anti Federalist I mean Rachel Maddow, are you a Peter Thiel/Alex Karp Palantir plant here on the forums?????? Or are you just one of Obama's stooges who "if you see something say something!".

But, you wouldn't understand. You are too, too eager to turn this Land of Free Home of the Brave country into North Korea, with Palantir's help.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If it was up to me, I would get government completely out of the business and let market conditions determine who comes and goes.

Thankfully, it's not, since you do not believe in nations or communities or a nation as a home for a distinct people and their posterity.

If all it takes is magic words and phrases on a piece of paper, Liberia would be an economic powerhouse and a shining beacon of liberty, property and prosperity, as it's 1847 constitution and founding documents are strikingly similar to ours.

But it is not.

Only if a people are committed to, and capable of, getting and sustaining liberty, will they keep it.

Our founding stock has become weak, slothful, spoiled, sinful and are losing liberty daily.

The invading hordes care not at all about liberty, they are here simply to pick the bones of what once was a wealthy Empire, take advantage of handouts and "gibs" that can be found for the time being in Economic Zone THX 1138, seize lands for their posterity and proselytize for their faith.

 

[Anti Federalist]