Invasion USA

[Anti Federalist]

I honestly don't know what part they don't understand.

Same here.

You are shown daily, images of the invasion.

The occupying government says they are going arm and enlist them.

They will come and kill you.

It's happened thousands of times in history before.

It is happening now, right in front of your eyes.

And all you chowderheads can do is chuckle and yuck it up about ol' AF and his "hatred" and conspiracy theories.

But if I speak at one constant rhythm and one constant pitch at one constant volume, you still won't hear...

 

[PAF]

Same here.

You are shown daily, images of the invasion.

The occupying government says they are going arm and enlist them.

They will come and kill you.

It's happened thousands of times in history before.

It is happening now, right in front of your eyes.

And all you chowderheads can do is chuckle and yuck it up about ol' AF and his "hatred" and conspiracy theories.

But if I speak at one constant rhythm and one constant pitch at one constant volume, you still won't hear...

Because you conveniently omitted the most important part:

I honestly don't know what part they don't understand. It was just shown that the GOP authorized $2.3 BILLION to facilitate the transport of immigrants, so that their industrial complexes can provide anti-liberty security "solutions". UNTIL the funding stops, this wheel, this cycle, will never ever stop, at which point every single one of our rights will be stripped, and we are broke-broke-broke [not that we aren't already].

It would be a completely different story if once funding stopped and immigrants were coming in in massive droves on their own. The fact is, without GOP and/or any other funding, they would not be coming in like they are and we would not be in this situation in the first place. I thought we were supposed to want to defund the state/fed, but as long as the endless, cyclic spending continues, people seem to insist on turning a blind eye. To me, that is nothing but hatred, not only toward immigrants, but anybody who values their freedom and liberty.

And yet you still want Republicans to "do something".

 

[acptulsa]

I think you are wrong.

You are as wrong as can possibly be, and the entire future of western civilization is in the balance.

I'm not wrong about the Fed funding this. Nothing else possibly could.

I'm not wrong about Trump failing to put a stop to that before. No, it didn't just start in January of 2021.

The occupying government says they are going arm and enlist them.

And the other face of the occupying janus government says we will get rid of them and that pesky Constitution too, problem -> reaction -> solution.

What part of fuck that do you not understand? Your threat assessment is off. We need to break their matrix before they escalate some more and throw something worse at us.

People are finally pissed enough about something to do it. And we want to pretend these foreigners are a bigger threat than the bioweapon labs? We can clear what's left of them out later. It's the people with the fracking bioweapons who are the clear and present danger. We need people in both Congress and the White House that have never even seen those buildings before. Not our grand choice of proven losers. Not another 81% reelection of a body with a 19% approval rating.

Bah. A pox on both your insanely evil lesser evils.

 

[acptulsa]

 

[susano]

While you have Biden acting above the law currently with the air strikes in Iraq and Syria currently believing and thinking as if America owns the middle east.

How about defying the constitutional mandate to protect the states from invasion? Hell, he's facilitating it and is a traitor in the most fundamental sense.

 

[PAF]

How about defying the constitutional mandate to protect the states from invasion? Hell, he's facilitating it and is a traitor in the most fundamental sense.

Remember I spoke about the revolving door, where the right hand feeds the left? Though I don't like democrats, don't put the blame all on them, the GOP is every bit to blame. More so because they are funding it, to the tune of $2.3 BILLION. The industrial complexes profit by your enslavement:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1754480700122665034

 

[susano]

Remember I spoke about the revolving door, where the right hand feeds the left? Though I don't like democrats, don't put the blame all on them, the GOP is every bit to blame. More so because they are funding it, to the tune of $2.3 BILLION. The industrial complexes profit by your enslavement:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1754480700122665034

Oh, I don't solely blame Democraps, at all. I figure ALL Democraps and most Repukes are to blame. This current senate bill was authored by a Republican, that Langkford (I think his name is) guy from Oklahoma. Then you've got the Republicans who want the border genuinely taken care of but still want billions for Israel and Ukraine so they're shitheads, too.

 

[PAF]

Oh, I don't solely blame Democraps, at all. I figure ALL Democraps and most Repukes are to blame. This current senate bill was authored by a Republican, that Langkford (I think his name is) guy from Oklahoma. Then you've got the Republicans who want the border genuinely taken care of but still want billions for Israel and Ukraine so they're $#@!heads, too.

From another thread:

I honestly don't know what part they don't understand. It was just shown that the GOP authorized $2.3 BILLION to facilitate the transport of immigrants, so that their industrial complexes can provide anti-liberty security "solutions". UNTIL the funding stops, this wheel, this cycle, will never ever stop, at which point every single one of our rights will be stripped, and we are broke-broke-broke [not that we aren't already].

It would be a completely different story if once funding stopped and immigrants were coming in in massive droves on their own. The fact is, without GOP and/or any other funding, they would not be coming in like they are and we would not be in this situation in the first place. I thought we were supposed to want to defund the state/fed, but as long as the endless, cyclic spending continues, people seem to insist on turning a blind eye. To me, that is nothing but hatred, not only toward immigrants, but anybody who values their freedom and liberty.

That said, I am not about to promote spending more money on even more security apparatus while at the same time my tax dollars are being spent on transporting them. The only solution: STOP PAYMENT.

 

[Anti Federalist]

What part of fuck that do you not understand? Your threat assessment is off. We need to break their matrix before they escalate some more and throw something worse at us.

People are finally pissed enough about something to do it. And we want to pretend these foreigners are a bigger threat than the bioweapon labs? We can clear what's left of them out later. It's the people with the fracking bioweapons who are the clear and present danger. We need people in both Congress and the White House that have never even seen those buildings before. Not our grand choice of proven losers. Not another 81% reelection of a body with a 19% approval rating.

And yet you still want Republicans to "do something".

I want somebody to do something.

I know the GOP is no savior, at the same time, I know that no democrat governor is going to what Abbot did, and continues to do, on the border.

I am well aware that the sword of Damocles is hanging over all our heads, I find myself surrounded.

If the situation at Eagle Pass finally comes to a head, and the citizen militia is mustered, then maybe that will provide impetus to set them on destroying the biolabs as well.

I don't pretend to have all the answers, regarding the man made bio plagues, I'll quote Valery Legasov from the series "Chernobyl":

"We are dealing with something that has never happened on this planet before."

But I know this, if we do not take decisive and affirmative and bold action now, on multiple fronts, we as a people, and possibly a species, will cease to exist.

 

[susano]

From another thread:




That said, I am not about to promote spending more money on even more security apparatus while at the same time my tax dollars are being spent on transporting them. The only solution: STOP PAYMENT.

I agree with stopping funding. Border patrol is already funded. The demons in DC simply decided to not only fund this human trafficking but to ignore the constitution and any laws.

I posted this, somewhere, here:

But now the UN’s 2024 update to the “Regional Refugee and Migrant Response Plan” (RMRP for short), a planning and budget document for handing out nearly $1.6 billion in 17 Latin America countries, can cast a broad confirming light on the cash giveaways and much more aid for 2024 ahead — with the helping hands of 248 named non-governmental organizations. Despite the RMRP plan title naming Venezuelans as recipients of this aid operation, the document’s fine print (footnote on p. 14 and paragraph on p. 43, for instance) says the largesse goes to “all nationalities” and “multiple other nationalities”.

In a nutshell, the UN and its advocacy partners are planning to spread $372 million in “Cash and Voucher Assistance (CVA)”, and “Multipurpose Cash Assistance (MCA)” to some 624,000 immigrants in-transit to the United States during 2024. That money is most often handed out, other UN documents show, as pre-paid, rechargeable debit cards, but also hard “cash in envelopes”, bank transfers, and mobile transfers the U.S. border-bound travelers can use for whatever they want.

The $372 million in planned cash giveaways to the 624,000 immigrants moving north and illegally crossing national borders “represents a significantly greater share of the financial requirements” for 2024, the RMRP says, but it is still only one part of much broader UN hemisphere-wide vision that aims to spend $1.59 billion assisting about three million people in 17 countries who emigrated from their home nations. Most will be “in-destination” recipients already supposedly settled in third countries, albeit in declining numbers, but a rising share of cash will go to the spiking numbers of “in-transit” immigrants launching journeys from those accommodating countries north to the United States.

“Country-level projections of in-transit movements for populations moving north through Central America and Mexico have been revised sharply upwards,” p. 44 explains in updating the 2024 RMRP update.

The reasons given include factors like “xenophobia” leading resettled migrants to leave for the United States. It does, finally, tag the real culprit: U.S. policies that created “newly established opportunities for regular pathways to move to the United States of America” for those who could make their way to northern Mexico.

https://cis.org/Bensman/UN-Budgets-Millions-USBound-Migrants-2024

 

[PAF]

I want somebody to do something.

Yes, most people do, once they've been accustomed to government taking care of them.

"We are dealing with something that has never happened on this planet before."

Yes, the politicians know and count on that. The more voters fall for things, over and over and over again, it becomes such a piece of cake for them to pull even more wool over voters eyes. I ain't buying it. And I sure as he|| don't want to pay for it fund them even further.

But I know this, if we do not take decisive and affirmative and bold action now, on multiple fronts, we as a people, and possibly a species, will cease to exist.

Yep. Except, Americans are soooo conditioned to keep throwing stupid money at things rather than to STOP SPENDING and Starve the State. In fact, it's totally unthinkable!

 

[fisharmor]

How about defying the constitutional mandate to protect the states from invasion? Hell, he's facilitating it and is a traitor in the most fundamental sense.

That's funny - I was just explaining to my daughter at dinner how people who think they support the constitution WRT immigration don't even know what it says, and here you are.

"To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions"

I mean, this is pretty plain English.

1) There is no militia. Without a militia, this sentence is inoperative and your point is void. Border patrol is not the militia, and neither ICS, the FBI, or any other alphabet agency. The closest you could possibly come is the National Guard which is still about a mile off target for what the militia is supposed to be.
You don't get to just skip the clearly specified method of executing this power because reasons and still call yourself a constitutionalist.

2) "Invasion" is clearly separated from "execute laws of the union" - meaning the framers did not understand those to be the same thing. You need to pick here - either the flood of immigration is a military invasion, or it's against the laws of the union.
If you contend a military invasion, then you're reinterpreting the word and you are no better than those who use the interstate commerce clause to sneak in any federal power they can think up.
If you contend it's executing laws of the Union, then you need to stop butchering English vocabulary, but you also bump into the 10th Amendment since there is no clear federal authority to do any of this border patrol stuff.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yes, most people do, once they've been accustomed to government taking care of them.

I have a bro of mine, has ranch down near the border west of Brownsville.

I'm prepared to hobble my old broke ass down there and hold the line, as best I can, if it comes to that, we've already worked out the logistics.

Let Abbot call out the citizen militia.

That's what I'm prepared to do.

What are you prepared to do?

Yes, the politicians know and count on that. The more voters fall for things, over and over and over again, it becomes such a piece of cake for them to pull even more wool over voters eyes. I ain't buying it. And I sure as he|| don't want to pay for it fund them even further.

Then don't.

I know what you think and what your position is on this.

So don't comply.

Cease paying any and all taxes at all levels.

Yep. Except, Americans are soooo conditioned to keep throwing stupid money at things rather than to STOP SPENDING and Starve the State. In fact, it's totally unthinkable!

Yeah, I know I'm a dumb ass, stoopid, Trump cocksucker...blah blah blah.

I should not even bother to say, for the billionth time, I agree with you.

But I disagree that will be all it takes.

"If I speak, at one constant volume, at one constant pitch, at one constant rhythm, right into your ear, you still won't hear, you still won't hear..."

 

[PAF]

I have a bro of mine, has ranch down near the border west of Brownsville.

I'm prepared to hobble my old broke ass down there and hold the line, as best I can, if it comes to that, we've already worked out the logistics.

Let Abbot call out the citizen militia.

That's what I'm prepared to do.

What are you prepared to do?



Then don't.

I know what you think and what your position is on this.

So don't comply.

Cease paying any and all taxes at all levels.



Yeah, I know I'm a dumb ass, stoopid, Trump $#@!...blah blah blah.

I should not even bother to say, for the billionth time, I agree with you.

But I disagree that will be all it takes.

"If I speak, at one constant volume, at one constant pitch, at one constant rhythm, right into your ear, you still won't hear, you still won't hear..."

Hey, brother, I know that we're both going to do the best that we can, given the circumstances. It's just that, I'm so damned cheap, I always look for ways to defund the state, and I do a pretty decent job of it ;-)

AF, don't take things personally. When I say something on the forum, it's more of a take notice for others to hopefully ponder ;-)

 

[Anti Federalist]

Hey, brother, I know that we're both going to do the best that we can, given the circumstances. It's just that, I'm so damned cheap, I always look for ways to defund the state, and I do a pretty decent job of it ;-)

AF, don't take things personally. When I say something on the forum, it's more of a take notice for others to hopefully ponder ;-)

It's all good, you know that...just feeling edgy and anxious, if you know what I mean.

 

[fisharmor]

People are finally pissed enough about something to do it. And we want to pretend these foreigners are a bigger threat than the bioweapon labs? We can clear what's left of them out later. It's the people with the fracking bioweapons who are the clear and present danger. We need people in both Congress and the White House that have never even seen those buildings before. Not our grand choice of proven losers. Not another 81% reelection of a body with a 19% approval rating.

Bah. A pox on both your insanely evil lesser evils.

I don't watch TV and I don't get the immigration fear porn. I only know what's going on locally.

In the last five years two separate mosques have moved in within walking distance of where I live, and I don't really live in a walking area.

They all come legally. They all do what's required and get their cards.

They all were loaded in their home countries. They bring their wealth here where it was not earned and they buy big expensive houses and big expensive cars and contribute more to prices spiraling out of control.

They all treat their women like shit. They all have their kids in after-school programs indoctrinating them in the ways of the home country and undoing any Americanization that might happen incidentally.

They all have the unstated understanding that leaving the faith is a threat to your life and none of them care that America isn't traditionally ok with that.

They are all a legitimate, tangible threat to the American way of life.

I just cannot get that excited about the other group that honors their women, works for what they have, goes to a Christian church, and is a ten minute conversation away from fully understanding what the framers intended here and would totally be on board.

I don't care that one group outnumbers the other by a lot.
I can tell which one is a threat.


FYI lest I single anyone out, I'm not ok with these fake colleges for Chinese students that are popping up all over the place either. There's another great example of something that's slipping under the radar to concentrate on how Alfonzo wants to spend 40 years sticking his hand in 5 gallon pails of drywall screws.

 

[Anti Federalist]

That's funny - I was just explaining to my daughter at dinner how people who think they support the constitution WRT immigration don't even know what it says, and here you are.

"To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions"

I mean, this is pretty plain English.

1) There is no militia. Without a militia, this sentence is inoperative and your point is void. Border patrol is not the militia, and neither ICS, the FBI, or any other alphabet agency. The closest you could possibly come is the National Guard which is still about a mile off target for what the militia is supposed to be.
You don't get to just skip the clearly specified method of executing this power because reasons and still call yourself a constitutionalist

Say what?

USC §246. Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia

2) "Invasion" is clearly separated from "execute laws of the union" - meaning the framers did not understand those to be the same thing. You need to pick here - either the flood of immigration is a military invasion, or it's against the laws of the union.
If you contend a military invasion, then you're reinterpreting the word and you are no better than those who use the interstate commerce clause to sneak in any federal power they can think up.
If you contend it's executing laws of the Union, then you need to stop butchering English vocabulary, but you also bump into the 10th Amendment since there is no clear federal authority to do any of this border patrol stuff.[/FONT][/SIZE]

Yes, it is an invasion, as clearly as if it was being done with bullets and bombs instead of bodies.

Article Four Section Four states:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion

The Constitution is the Supreme law of the land.

The Executive branch's duty is to execute and carry out the laws of land.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

So you have both: a duty to protect the states from invasion, and a duty to carry out the law.

Failure to carry out these duties deliberately, with malice aforethought, as this administration has done and is doing, while currently under bioweapon attack and invasion, is treason of the highest order and should be punished by execution.

 

[fisharmor]

Say what?

USC §246. Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia

Ok great. Now show me:
1) Where there are unorganized militia that are something more than the subject of FBI entrapment schemes,
2) Where the National Guard has ever been used to execute the laws of the Union, suppress an insurrection, or repel an invasion.

One literally doesn't exist and the other is not used for any constitutional power involving invasions - one of its main purposes is actually to help execute invasions.

In either case the militia does not exist and that part of the US Constitution is inoperative.

Yes, it is an invasion, as clearly as if it was being done with bullets and bombs instead of bodies.

Repeating what I accused susano of is not an argument unless you deal with the rebuttal I already gave you.

You're making leftist arguments. You're redefining words to make the document say something it does not say.
There has never been an invasion in the history of the world where the aggressors wanted to cut grass at a substandard wage.
If you want to argue that the 10th Amendment doesn't apply here then make it.
If you want to renege on the Constitution, go ahead.

But don't peddle leftist constitutional arguments and expect the troops to rally around you.

 

[Anti Federalist]

There has never been an invasion in the history of the world where the aggressors wanted to cut grass at a substandard wage.

We are still suffering from a bio-weapon attack launched by the Communist Chinese government that has killed or sickened millions of people in this country.

We used to call them fellow citizens, but we hate ourselves so much more than the enemies that are destroying us, that we don't even regard them as such anymore.

These invaders are not here to cut grass and hang drywall and put in tire plugs.

They are not here to be the new voting block.

They are here to be the new standing army, they will be armed, given authority and will be turned loose on people like you and me.

They will kill us, by the millions, assuming the heathen Chinese don't launch the super plague first.

We are dealing with something that has not ever happened on this planet before.

If anyone or anything is going to survive, you'd better get aware of that, tout suite.

 

[PAF]

We are still suffering from a bio-weapon attack launched by the Communist Chinese government that has killed or sickened millions of people in this country.

I thought that it was established that the U.S. (Fauci & Co.) funded that, Gain of Function and all, and that indications were that it originated in Ft. Detrick, MD, before it went to China?

As to the "invasion": When the GOP authorizes $2,334,000,000 in Title IV of the Department of Health and Human Services to facilitate immigration, I call that an invitation. Of course I am 100% against that. But until the American people start putting blame directly where it belongs and demand an end to it, no amount of additional money will ever stop it.