Intellectual Property rights

[heavenlyboy34]

I thought you put a lot of work and effort into music, and you learned everything your teacher knew. Where is your 9th symphony sir beethoven jr?

You can hear my symphonies, concerti, etc. on my website-linked in my sig. Beethoven was ~54 when the 9th was written. I'll probably have at least that many done when I'm that old. I've already done 2.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

What is your view on property when it is given to another person with user agreement/contract?

What are your views on "fraud"?

This is a joke, right?

Why would I respond when you are just going to avoid everything I (and others) say and yell "fraud" and "marxist" over and over and post that YouTube.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

(Besides both of those have already been answered further back in this thread).

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Everyone has natural ability or aptitude to one degree or another. Some simply take the time to develop it better than others.

Really? What socialist school taught you that?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

An edutainment video

 

[noneedtoaggress]

Fallacy, you are radical because you dismiss actual natural born talent.
Talent:
1.a special natural ability or aptitude: a talent for drawing.

No I don't.

"Natural born talent" is an interest in a topic which drives people to learn about how to be skillful. Some people are able to naturally learn faster than others about a skill. These people who combine drive and ease of learning are "naturally talented" people.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

No I don't.

"Natural born talent" is an interest in a topic which drives people to learn about how to be skillful. Some people are able to naturally learn faster than others about a skill. These people who combine drive and ease of learning are "naturally talented" people.

Really haha. This is getting funny

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Really? What socialist school taught you that?

Socialist? Enough the silly rhetoric, please. Nobody "taught" me that-it's self-evident. Even a person who has never played a note can become a virtuoso if they put in the time and effort. I didn't touch an instrument till I was 16, and by the time I took composition lessons in college, I knew enough to get straight A's and was writing pieces too long for my teachers to grade for lack of time.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Really haha. This is getting funny

Yes you are. lolz

 

[CCTelander]

Really haha. This is getting funny

Perhaps.

Your arrogance, however, is no laughing matter.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Socialist? Enough the silly rhetoric, please. Nobody "taught" me that-it's self-evident. Even a person who has never played a note can become a virtuoso if they put in the time and effort. I didn't touch an instrument till I was 16, and by the time I took composition lessons in college, I knew enough to get straight A's.

no seriously you believe that all people are equal, and should be equal on every level. Not only in the ownership of property, but in the ownership of talents. You believe that all people are equally the same and thus make me laugh at your ideology.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Perhaps.

Your arrogance, however, is no laughing matter.

Did I hurt your feelings,I'm sorry lol

 

[CCTelander]

no seriously you believe that all people are equal, and should be equal on every level. Not only in the ownership of property, but in the ownership of talents. You believe that all people are equally the same and thus make me laugh at your ideology.

Wow.

You got ALL of that from just a few short posts on an internet forum?

You're not only a guitar GOD, you must also be psychic.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Wow.

You got ALL of that from just a few short posts on an internet forum?

You're not only a guitar GOD, you must also be psychic.

I didn't call myself a guitar god, but if you'd like to say that then you must be psychic

 

[noneedtoaggress]

no seriously you believe that all people are equal, and should be equal on every level. Not only in the ownership of property, but in the ownership of talents. You believe that all people are equally the same and thus make me laugh at your ideology.

I hope you're having fun ignorantly laughing to yourself about the strawmen you create.

 

[goldencane]

So, I steal your vehicle and say that it is mine, it's fraud.

So, if I steal your vehicle, and say that it is not mine, everything is just fine.

I realize this depends on what each side of this debate views as 'property', but that's what I was referring to in regard to different planes of debate several pages back. The IP debate always results in long threads with both sides speaking at each other like we're using different root words as the basis of our language. It's no wonder we can't understand each other, really. It's everyone's fault and no one's fault at the same time.

To me, property must be tangible. Ideas and knowledge are intangible and they are not limited by resources. Vehicles are tangible, so as we have discussed already, if I take your car, you no longer have a car. Ideas and knowledge are not exclusive to one person at one time, thus one person can not be granted sole ownership to those ideas or knowledge.

 

[guitarlifter]

#respect

Anyway. He has the right to his music, the same why I have the right to my property. But as soon as I sell it, it seizes to become my sole property. What you are implying is that I am not allowed to share my property with anyone else. Thats an abridgment of my rights.

No, you are misconstruing what he means. You can most certainly share your ideas with others.

 

[r3volution]

the DMCA is the only thing about IPR that i think is bullshit . IP crimes are a civil matter not criminal .

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I hope you're having fun ignorantly laughing to yourself about the strawmen you create.

I am basking in the thought

 

[noneedtoaggress]

So you're a troll then. I see.