Instead of Raises, McDonald's Tells Workers to Sign Up for Food Stamps

Wal-Mart and McDonald's are just trying to make the best out of the situation they are put in by the government, as any rational person would do.

The government is the problem.


Thank you!

It is certainly the gov's interference in business and the promotion of unions.

If someone dislikes buying "China crap" then get the gov out of business so that it may return to the US. Real capitalism is freedom- something that hasn't existed in the US for a long time.
 
Thanks!

Point still remains that no one wants to take responsibility. McDonalds doesnt want to take care of its own employees

McDonalds pays the going rate for the labor it requires IN THIS LAND. It would be required to pay a higher rate if the elected politicians did not shift McDonalds cost onto the tax slaves of this land. Workers would not choose to voluntarily work at this establishment if they could not receive stolen goods from the state. Also, apparently, the people of this state do not care of McDonalds low wages. It would not be the #1(#2) "restaurant" in America if the felt any moral responsibility to the workers.
 
Disagree. Expect those people to find a way onto SSI disability instead. The "pay" is as good or better than the JP Morgan/USDA food stamp regime in most states, I understand.

I seem to recall the Reagan years involved a purging of the disability rolls.
 
http://articles.latimes.com/1988-07-01/news/mn-6526_1_medicare-expansion

Reagan OKs Expansion of Medicare Aid : Adds Warning About Necessity to Keep Costs Under Control

Reagan, a longtime foe of Medicare expansion, noted that the legislation provides new benefits for the nation's 32 million Medicare recipients, including prescription drugs and care provided to patients in their homes.

"We have no real way of knowing how much these services will cost," he said. "So if future Administrations and Congresses aren't diligent, these new benefits could contribute to a program we can't afford.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/345075/reagan-expanded-disability-industrial-complex-avik-roy#!

In 1980, Jimmy Carter had signed the Disability Amendments Act of 1980, which encouraged tighter oversight of Social Security disability benefits. Early in Reagan’s first term, the Gipper asked the Social Security Administration to step up enforcement of the new law, leading to the revocation of benefits for over one million people. There was a substantial political backlash to these efforts; as a result, in 1984, Congress unanimously passed the Social Security Disability Benefits Reform Act. “It maintains our commitment to treat disabled American citizens fairly and humanely while fulfilling our obligation to the Congress and the American taxpayers to administer the disability program effectively,” said Reagan upon signing the bill into law.

The SSDBRA instructed the government to place greater weight on applicants’ own assessments of their disability, especially when it came to pain and discomfort; to replace the government’s medical assessments with those of the applicants’ own doctors; and to loosen the screening criteria for mental illness, among other things. The overall effect was to create a giant loophole, by which an applicant’s subjective claim that he was in pain, or mentally incapacitated, would be enough to claim disability.

Economists from the National Bureau of Economic Research have found that the vast majority of the growth in disability spending does not come from aging of the population, but rather from two factors: (1) this 1984 law, which relaxed the medical eligibility criteria for disability benefits; and (2) a substantial increase in the economic value of disability benefits, driven by quirks in the formula used to pay them, and by the increasing value of the Medicare health insurance benefit for which the disabled qualify.
 
10 years and was still being paid $8.25

That is all I got from that. I started at my current job at $8.25/hr and within 18 months I was at $10.50/hr. I may not have had a raise in two years, but I now at least get 3 weeks paid vacation. If you stuck with a job that pays $8.25/hr for 10 years... you are a special kind of stupid.
 
Yeah, okay, blame the government because consumers can't figure out that a crappy, low-priced lawnmower returns less for your dollar on longevity.

These threads that rehash 1975 union arguments are always funny. It's so ironic that people will jump all over the dregs who think they're entitled to union wages. They're the same critics who thought they were going to get the same quality product in a post-industrial era.

People buy a ten cent can of pet food from China, then they'll bitch and wonder about why their dog died. These whiny goofs thought they were going to get something for nothing from the Chink, but it looks like slanty eye turned the tables pretty good.
 
You're really, seriously going to argue that slotting fees don't benefit big businesses by keeping smaller competitors out? Might want to read this: http://cpg-retail-litigation.kotchen.com/2008/10/slotting-allowances-anti-competitive.html, because that's not a very good rebuttal.

Considering that you're a self-professed "smart consumer" I had hoped for more. Silly me - I should have called it as an oxymoron as soon as I saw it. And of course, at no point did I suggest you should buy Chinese junk.

So go on - impress us again with some more of your intelligence.

A rebuttal to what? I don't even know what you're whining about.

You first complain about the consumer, and then you complain about the merchant. You defend and criticize a company in the same breath, and suggest my lack of patronage there has the unintended consequence of your business failure or something else that "bugs" you.

Geez, I never even thought I was that savvy of a consumer because most of this is common sense; however, maybe I'll rethink that in light of this conversation. Instead of googling articles to figure it out, maybe you should just go in that store and inspect the workmanship on a lawnmower or pair of pants.
 
Walmart hate is liberal bullshit. You people are not part of the solution - you're part of the problem.


It's interesting how you conservatives profess to be free market, but then cite me in some wider societal "problem" simply because I won't buy junk in a certain store.
 
Yes, the money is a controlling factor, that's exactly what I said.

What are you getting at? That you don't think McDonald's should try to pay as little as possible for labor?


Nope that is not what I am saying. There is a straight up underlining agenda going on. Get a good majority of people so broke that they have to rely on government to intervene and help them. McDonalds is part of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC)--are you familiar with them?

I know people with master degrees working at McDonalds and Walmart because they mortgaged their lives to get the degree that there are NO jobs available for them with the degree.

I constantly hear people need to take responsibility for themselves. While I agree more people need to step up to the plate and take care of themselves, most people are so upside down in debt they cannot get ahead. It is a 'no win' game. This game is bankrupting people left and right and when all else fails, they look to government to help solve their problems. The Hegelian Dialectic is right there...problem, reaction...solution.
 
Nope that is not what I am saying. There is a straight up underlining agenda going on. Get a good majority of people so broke that they have to rely on government to intervene and help them. McDonalds is part of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC)--are you familiar with them?

I know people with master degrees working at McDonalds and Walmart because they mortgaged their lives to get the degree that there are NO jobs available for them with the degree.

I constantly hear people need to take responsibility for themselves. While I agree more people need to step up to the plate and take care of themselves, most people are so upside down in debt they cannot get ahead. It is a 'no win' game. This game is bankrupting people left and right and when all else fails, they look to government to help solve their problems. The Hegelian Dialectic is right there...problem, reaction...solution.

So, you're not saying that McDonald's is doing anything wrong by paying its workers so little that they qualify for food stamps, and encouraging them to get them?

Because as long as you're not saying that, then good. But if you're not, I don't see how your responses to me have to do with anything I said.
 
When Food Stamps get cut, expect a Revolution. A very violent one. Or at least extreme Riots.



Stay tuned. Socialists say it's happening.


Cutting food stamps: The ruthlessness of the American ruling class

29 October 2013

Food assistance benefits for over 45 million Americans will be slashed starting this Friday, in the first-ever nationwide reduction in benefits under the US government’s Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), popularly known as food stamps.

The cuts total $11 billion over the next three years and amount on average to a month’s worth of food assistance. They will mean yet more privation for millions of working people, including the poorest and most vulnerable members of society—children, elderly people, the unemployed, the disabled and new mothers.

That this brutal cut takes place under conditions of continuing mass unemployment and economic slump, with record numbers of people living in poverty and homelessness and hunger on the rise, testifies to the ruthlessness of the American ruling class. The callous indifference of the media and the entire political establishment, beginning with the Obama White House, to the suffering of broad layers of the population is reflected in their virtual silence on the imminent cutback in benefits.

As far as the corporate-controlled media is concerned, snatching food from the mouths of hungry children is not even worth reporting. As for the politicians, Democrats as well as Republicans are saying virtually nothing because there is a bipartisan agreement to impose the cuts.

Meanwhile, the government bailout of Wall Street and corporate America continues unabated. The Federal Reserve is expected this Wednesday to announce the extension of its $85 billion-a-month subsidy to the stock market and the banks in the form of its “quantitative easing” money-printing operation. Trillions of dollars have been pumped into the financial markets and interest rates have been kept at near-zero to drive up share values to record highs in the midst of the deepest crisis in the real economy since the Great Depression.

This channeling of social wealth into the coffers of the super-rich has produced the highest levels of social inequality in nearly a century. The American financial aristocracy is choking on its own wealth. Just last week, Forbes magazine reported that the ten highest-earning individuals in the US in 2012 each took in more than $100 million, with the top two making more than $1 billion apiece.

The universal claim that there is “no money” to fund social services comes as corporations, awash in cash and profits, systematically avoid taxation. According to a USA Today report published Monday, one in nine corporations in the Standard & Poor’s 500 stock index paid no taxes last year. Among them are Verizon, which recently imposed new concessions on its workers, and the Murdoch-owned News Corp., which publishes the Wall Street Journal. The average effective tax rate on corporations in the S&P 500 was 12.6 percent—barely a third of the nominal corporate tax rate.

The starkest indicator of the real state of the US economy in the sixth year of the crisis that erupted in 2008—and the clearest refutation of the official claims of a “recovery”—is the staggering growth in the number of people dependent on food stamps. Their ranks swelled by 70 percent between 2007 and 2012 and they continue to grow.

The food stamp cuts scheduled for this week are the result of the expiration of the 2009 Recovery Act’s temporary increase in food stamp benefits. The increase was originally slated to last through 2015, when SNAP benefits are scheduled to rise, so as to ensure that there would be no reduction in benefits.

But in 2010, congressional Democrats used $14 billion that had been set aside for food stamps to fund other measures, vowing to return the money before the benefit hike expired. With the unspoken sanction of the White House and congressional Democrats, that never happened.

In current negotiations over a new farm bill, the Democratic-controlled Senate is proposing an additional $4 billion in cuts to the food stamp program over the next decade. The Republican-controlled House of Representatives has passed a bill that would cut $40 billion from SNAP and force adults between 18 and 50 to either work or attend work training in order to reapply for benefits, as well as instituting drug-testing for recipients.

As always, the more draconian Republican proposal serves as the baseline for a “compromise” in which the Democrats, even as they posture as defenders of the poor, agree to increase the scale of cuts to a level that was likely agreed upon in advance by the White House and the two big business parties.

The slashing of food stamp benefits comes just weeks after a 16-day government shutdown that set the stage for a bipartisan deal to extend most of the social cuts included in the $1.3 trillion “sequestration” process that began last March. Those cuts are on top of another $1 trillion in cuts pushed through during the 2011 crisis over the US debt ceiling.

On January 1, the federal program that provides extended unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless is slated to expire, throwing millions more into poverty and outright destitution.

All of this is preparation for a bipartisan assault on the core social programs that date from the New Deal of the 1930s and the Great Society of the 1960s—Social Security and Medicare.

What is involved here is a social counterrevolution, the aim of which is to uproot and destroy every social gain won by the working class over the past century—from pensions and health benefits to public education and child labor laws. The bankruptcy of Detroit, which is being used to gut city workers’ pensions and strip them of their health coverage, along with the sell-off of public assets such as the art work at the world famous Detroit Institute of Arts, are a foretaste of what is coming nationally—and internationally.

This is what capitalism has to offer the working class—mass poverty, accompanied by ever more bloody wars and increasing political repression.

The working class can halt this attack and defend its basic social rights—to a job, a decent wage, nutrition, education, health care, pensions, access to culture—only by mobilizing its vast social power in a political struggle against both parties of Wall Street and the ruling class whose interests they slavishly defend.

The resources needed to provide a secure job and decent standard of living for every person exist in abundance, but they can be mobilized and expanded only by putting an end to the economic despotism of the corporate-financial elite. The corporations and banks must be taken out of private hands and transformed into public institutions under the democratic control of the working population. The ill-gotten wealth of the financial parasites must be expropriated and used to meet social needs.

The wealth produced by the working class must be used for the benefit of society as a whole, not the personal accumulation of wealth by a tiny elite. This is the program of social equality and socialism, fought for by the Socialist Equality Party.
 
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