Instead of Raises, McDonald's Tells Workers to Sign Up for Food Stamps

[Brian4Liberty]

And here's another newsflash. People that own businesses will always lobby for ways to dump expenses. They do not care who they dump it on. If they can buy a few politicians that allow them to dump their expenses on the taxpayer, they will always do that. And as long as we allow our politicians to give them our money, our politicians will do exactly that.

Which is theft and fraud from taxpayers.

This article is straight up union propaganda. "McDonalds has taken a lot of heat lately..." - that ties straight back to the unions. Which ties back to the immigration push.

Yes, the Unions are often behind this. Labor is about supply and demand. A bigger supply of labor reduces demand and wages. This is bad for Union members, but good for the Unions. A bad labor market creates demand for Unions. And not only that, the Unions hope to sign up all of those new immigrants for the Unions, and they can expand their scam.

 

[Rocco]

I am out of rep for you, but this is probably the post of the month. I am so sick of hearing that businesses must "take care" of their employees, as if they are that employees parent. We are trading capital for labor, that does not make their financial well being my responsibility. The notion that anybody can (or should) take a loss on labor simply for the benefit of the employee is fundamentally illogical, and can only be deduced through emotion rather than through reason.

I am not responsible for anybody but myself and those who I voluntarily will aid (such as family and friends). If I own a McDonalds and you produce $8.50 an hour worth of labor, and you have for 10 years, what the hell am I supposed to do? Pay you more than you're worth because it "seems fair" and let Wendy's eat my lunch? The truth is that McDonalds did make a mistake with this woman, but it wasn't not paying her enough. Any decent manager would have fired that woman years and years ago, anyone who cannot manage to produce enough to get one raise in 10 years is a drain on your company.

Once again, the problem is not corporations, the problem is government. Blaming McDonalds for telling their workers to go on food stamps is the moral equivalent of blaming the fox for eating the hens AFTER you've given him the key to the hen house.

I walk away from the internet forever. I am so tired of seeing liberal bullshit posted here. Fucking endess handwringing over Walmart and McDonalds is retarded.

Here'a a deep thought. "No one wants to take responsibility." Maybe peope should take responsibility for themselves????

You people live in some Utopia where you think the purpose of a business is to care about people. This is liberal propoganda, and they're setting the stage to push for an increase in minimum wages.

Gee - I wonder why they aren't screeching about McD's not insuring their employees any more? Maybe because they just managed to get that subsidized through the same government that they have feeding them too

The purpose of business isn't to take care of employees. Its purpose is to maximize profits. As long as the government is wiling to subsidize labor costs through housing grants, food stamps and insurance subsidies, businesses will be able to hire people at less than the market value of labor.

Apparently that is something that will just never, ever be believed by today's youth. The liberal worms are far too embedded in their brains.

 

[erowe1]

All the things the left criticizes Walmart for are reasons to like them, not hate them.

So if you don't want to shop there, that's fine. But consider doing something else to support them, like buying their stock, or just sending them a donation with a note that says, "Keep up the good work."

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

My point was that your "smart consumerism" isn't really as cut and dry as you make it out to be. There are unintended consequences.

It's cut and dry for my wallet.

What would those unintended consequences be?

 

[angelatc]

All the things the left criticizes Walmart for are reasons to like them, not hate them.

So if you don't want to shop there, that's fine. But consider doing something else to support them, like buying their stock, or just sending them a donation with a note that says, "Keep up the good work."

Walmart was one of the first companies to start the push for Obamacare. I wonder if they cut a deal to shift the union attentions to the food industry as part of that?

 

[erowe1]

Walmart was one of the first companies to start the push for Obamacare. I wonder if they cut a deal to shift the union attentions to the food industry as part of that?

Interesting.

 

[angelatc]

It's cut and dry for my wallet.

What would those unintended consequences be?

You're a "Smart" consumer! I am surprised I have to spell it out for you. Smart people usually get it.

I'll try to go slow. Small American businesses can't get into national distribution channels without partnering with chains like WalMart. All major retailers *except* for WaMart charge huge fees just for the privilege of putting an item on a shelf.

Not shopping at WalMart means there is no demand for those products at WalMart, therefore the small American business is forced to either lose potential customers or raise prices, which is a demand-killer in itself. And the Chinese crap stays on the shelf.

 

[TonySutton]

or the lack of other opportunity. it isnt always that cut and dry.

She lives in Chicago. There are tons of opportunities there. Especially if you look back over 10 years. Around 2006 the unemployment rate in Chicago was less than 5%.

 

[erowe1]

She lives in Chicago. There are tons of opportunities there. Especially if you look back over 10 years. Around 2006 the unemployment rate in Chicago was less than 5%.

In 2006 the unemployment rate all over the country was less than that. It's been a lot worse over these past 5 years.

 

[angelatc]

She lives in Chicago. There are tons of opportunities there. Especially if you look back over 10 years. Around 2006 the unemployment rate in Chicago was less than 5%.

Lots of public transportation, too.

 

[undergroundrr]

McDonald's and the US Government are both Hobbesian artificial men. Why should we expect one to act more virtuously than the other? In addition, as someone noted, McDonald's took bailout cash. In essence, McDonald's is a government agency. Why shouldn't they marshall their own resources?

 

[compromise]

Wal-Mart and McDonald's are just trying to make the best out of the situation they are put in by the government, as any rational person would do.

The government is the problem.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

You're a "Smart" consumer! I am surprised I have to spell it out for you. Smart people usually get it.

I'll try to go slow. Small American businesses can't get into national distribution channels without partnering with chains like WalMart. All major retailers *except* for WaMart charge huge fees just for the privilege of putting an item on a shelf.

Not shopping at WalMart means there is no demand for those products at WalMart, therefore the small American business is forced to either lose potential customers or raise prices, which is a demand-killer in itself. And the Chinese crap stays on the shelf.

LOL. The bizzarro economics version of walmart, and "liberal" bashing "conservatives" who uses the same illogical arguments. Yes, the benevolent behemoth so selflessly supports the small businessman's endeavors with their "fee" structure.

And I'm her "part of the problem" regarding Chinese junk because I won't buy it.

And I thought university education was half-assed.

 

[brushfire]

Businesses already put the burden of training employees on government...

It used to be that one would be hired, and trained for a job. So, at that point, a business had an investment in the employee and was less likely to have these massive rifts. A business actually had to evaluate the employee worth. Now The government is tasked with educating the work force, and so there's less for businesses to evaluate. Not to mention, stock holders seem to like a good layoff, now and then.

So following this natural progression, why not make government responsible for paying wages too? While they are at it, maybe government can be responsible for for setting up daycare, while the surfs go to work?

Socialist utopia.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Speaking of making decisions while shopping, price is often not the biggest factor.

I went to check out one of the "not quite fast" burger places the other day. Having already been to In-n-Out and 5 Guys, I decided to try "The Habit". Fairly good burger. The difference is that instead of young people (probably High School?) that mainly work at In-n-Out and 5 Guys, at "The Habit", the employees were all older, maybe late twenties and thirties. I will not be going to "The Habit" again. It's a political buying decision. Price and quality are not a factor.

 

[angelatc]

LOL. The bizzarro economics version of walmart, and "liberal" bashing "conservatives" who uses the same illogical arguments. Yes, the benevolent behemoth so selflessly supports the small businessman's endeavors with their "fee" structure.

And I'm her "part of the problem" regarding Chinese junk because I won't buy it.

And I thought university education was half-assed.

You're really, seriously going to argue that slotting fees don't benefit big businesses by keeping smaller competitors out? Might want to read this: http://cpg-retail-litigation.kotchen.com/2008/10/slotting-allowances-anti-competitive.html, because that's not a very good rebuttal.

Considering that you're a self-professed "smart consumer" I had hoped for more. Silly me - I should have called it as an oxymoron as soon as I saw it. And of course, at no point did I suggest you should buy Chinese junk.

So go on - impress us again with some more of your intelligence.

 

[puppetmaster]

Wow, could you imagine if the Mexican Govt told its citizens to illegally cross the borders and how to apply for Food Stamps and Medicaid? There would be an influx of Illegal Immigrants into this country the likes of which have never been seen! And they dont even have to apply to work at either Wal Mart or McDonalds to get those Benefits!

Lol so sarcastic and so true.
Can't rep u either

 

[oyarde]

How is she paying rent , driving to work , feeding children on $8.25 ???

 

[oyarde]

because you work at mcdonalds, dipshit.

if i worked somewhere for one year with no raise (without a damn good reason), i'd be out the door.

Not me , done it lots , of course the salary was three times higher.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Thanks!

Point still remains that no one wants to take responsibility. McDonalds doesnt want to take care of its own employees and the Mexican Govt doesnt want to take care of its citizens. They both tell "their people" (yeah, I said it, plz dont bite my head off, I like my head where its at!) to go as the US Govt for FREE MONEY. Any time anything is offered to someone "for free", it is an incentive to Not Try, Not Produce, Not Work.

Now, if everyone else shirks their responsibilities to their people, what makes you think that the US Govt wont do the same to US Citizens? How many people are jobless, cant collect unemployment, and are ineligible for ANY benefits? When the Roman Empire collapsed, many Roman Citizens banded together in front of their Leaders and demanded more and more freebies. Those that did work were not able to keep the fruits of their labors because they were redistributed to those who responded to the incentives to not work. And here we are 2000 years later not learning a damn thing about history except that Karl Marx was a Leader of the People and Thomas Jefferson was a Terrorist.

Our so called Elected Officials responded to their bribes and did something worse than kill our economy, they've killed the average persons ability and incentive to work. When Food Stamps get cut, expect a Revolution. A very violent one. Or at least extreme Riots.

Disagree. Expect those people to find a way onto SSI disability instead. The "pay" is as good or better than the JP Morgan/USDA food stamp regime in most states, I understand.