In the middle of a debate!!
- Thread starter sgrooms
- Start date
freedom-maniac
Member
- Joined
- Dec 1, 2007
- Messages
- 2,593
Obama voted to reauthorize the PATRIOT Act.
LionHeart87
Member
- Joined
- Dec 24, 2007
- Messages
- 29
He only has 2 years experience in the Senate which makes him completely unelectable in November.
rollingpig
Member
- Joined
- Dec 5, 2007
- Messages
- 818
how about Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians:
8. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): A “Dishonorable Mention” last year, Senator Obama moves onto the “ten most wanted” list in 2007. In 2006, it was discovered that Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin “Tony” Rezko. In 2007, more reports surfaced of deeper and suspicious business and political connections It was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company’s shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.
8. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): A “Dishonorable Mention” last year, Senator Obama moves onto the “ten most wanted” list in 2007. In 2006, it was discovered that Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin “Tony” Rezko. In 2007, more reports surfaced of deeper and suspicious business and political connections It was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company’s shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.
freedom-maniac
Member
- Joined
- Dec 1, 2007
- Messages
- 2,593
Keep this BUMPED. As a former Obama person, I left him b/c he wouldn't promise to get out of Iraq before 2013.
Get it? Obama = not out of Iraq 'till 2013.
Get it? Obama = not out of Iraq 'till 2013.
InLoveWithRon
Member
- Joined
- Jan 7, 2008
- Messages
- 1,239
Just give this to them based on voting record.. That will shut anyone up.
http://ronpaul.clanjyd.com/files/2008 Presidentail Comparison Chart.pdf
http://ronpaul.clanjyd.com/files/2008 Presidentail Comparison Chart.pdf
luvthedoc08
Member
- Joined
- Jan 8, 2008
- Messages
- 353
nice that was a good string of info right there
Obama is rabidly anti second amendment just slicker than the Clintons in expressing it. His take is sure the second amendment is an individual right but the government has the RIGHT to put reasonable restraints and restictions on firearm ownership. The "government" gets to determine what reasonable means.
--Sen. Barack Obama's long relationship with Rezko (indicted with plotting to squeeze millions of dollars in kickbacks out of investment firms seeking state business and for obtaining $10.5 million from a large company through fraud and swindling a group of investors.) is a major political problem for him in the primary, and in the general election if he wins the nomination.
hellsingfan
Member
- Joined
- Dec 5, 2007
- Messages
- 448
lol, best one i've heard, haha cracked me up. I don't want change I want solid dollars. If he became president that change would be worth pips (if you know forex)
So the argument is Obama is a SOCIALIST!!!!
ProfNo
Member
- Joined
- Nov 27, 2007
- Messages
- 671
Everyone raised all of the important issues.
He is clearly a shill for the system. This is evidenced, as people point out, by the fact that said he was against the war, yet has done nothing but vote for the war and re-authorize the Patriot act.
He is full of it...nothing will change under him and he is no different than Clinton.
He is clearly a shill for the system. This is evidenced, as people point out, by the fact that said he was against the war, yet has done nothing but vote for the war and re-authorize the Patriot act.
He is full of it...nothing will change under him and he is no different than Clinton.
CJLauderdale4
Member
- Joined
- Jun 7, 2007
- Messages
- 1,363
In debates like this, flip it around.
Ask them: What exactly is Obama going to change, again???
Then when they give you some cushy feely crap, ask them about real issues, like the economy, Iraq, the dollar, etc...
Trust me - they'll have no idea what Obama plans to change to take care of any of those things...
Ask them: What exactly is Obama going to change, again???
Then when they give you some cushy feely crap, ask them about real issues, like the economy, Iraq, the dollar, etc...
Trust me - they'll have no idea what Obama plans to change to take care of any of those things...
Give me liberty
Member
- Joined
- Jun 2, 2007
- Messages
- 2,776
Obama supports the H.R 1955 bill.
Well he is on the seat where will the vote will take place.
Well he is on the seat where will the vote will take place.
Enzo
Member
- Joined
- Nov 11, 2007
- Messages
- 550
I was very seriously thinking of supporting Obama when I first heard about him.
But the more I looked into his record and affiliations, the more apparent it became that he was no different from any of the others.
He actually went from a position of not supporting the war... saying that there was no proof of WMDs and no cause.. to supporting the war.. once it was proven that there were indeed no WMDs and Iraq was no threat.
Same with the Patriot Act. He originally said he was against the Patriot Act... then voted to reauthorize it.
So he's certainly all about "Change" just not in the right direction.
But the more I looked into his record and affiliations, the more apparent it became that he was no different from any of the others.
He actually went from a position of not supporting the war... saying that there was no proof of WMDs and no cause.. to supporting the war.. once it was proven that there were indeed no WMDs and Iraq was no threat.
Same with the Patriot Act. He originally said he was against the Patriot Act... then voted to reauthorize it.
So he's certainly all about "Change" just not in the right direction.
Similar threads
