Important Message about MSM for Ron Paul Supporters

[SaratogaForRonPaul]

First off, let me declare that I personally do not know anyone in the MSM, so take this as second hand information and not necessarily fact.

However, I do have a friend that is well connected to some media personalities. He was asking around why they don't cover Ron Paul as much. Some said they did like covering him after Q3 and November 5th fundraiser reporting, because he was a true underdog story. The problem started whenever they mentioned Ron they would get flooded by thousands of supporters, ranging from thanking them to insulting them and threatening them. It has come to the point that they now dread mentioning Ron, because good or bad, they and/or their staff have to spend hours going through the tons of emails.

Chris Matthews used to go from saying "What about my man Ron Paul" on the air to now wincing on air when a guest brings up his name. Glen Bleck brought up his death threats on the air. Some of you will say its just a conspiracy against Ron. Others will say that they only listen to their polls and only cover those they feel will win and are news worthy. Well you may or may not be right, I don't know. But what I do know is that many major media personalities now just don't want to cover Ron because it is guaranteed to cost them endless hours of staff time to deal with the barrage of threats, thanks, and insults.

This is a free country and I'm not telling you what to do. However, I do suggest taking a few moments to think before sending out mass emails to the MSM as to whether or not this will help Ron out. In some cases, the mass emails helped. Now, most of them may be hurting him. Make your own decisions.

Peace and Happy Holidays,
Steve

 

[AlexMerced]

I agree, and many on this board will as well, but having a de-centralized grassroots gives us very little control over the super vocal minority of media antagonizers.

Though it's the not the worst thing in the world, cause most media attention usually seems to miss the point anyways and focuses on things that are irrelevant and look bad. The fact that they are willing to cover Huckabee so mmuch by this logic shows how small his grassroots really is.

Oh well, I think we're doing fine, it's sad to hear we have that effect on people... but I mean that's what happens ina movement like this, even if there was a central voice. Once you reach a certain size you lse control, I'm glad we're at that size it means we have a strong chance.

 

[Paulitician]

Agreed. This is a big part of the problem (though not the only problem--media itself is corrupt). We should encourage and pass around good stories/articles, completely ignore hitpieces. The same should be done with blogs. It's no wonder people view RP supporters as loons, too many spend way too much time spamming people with flaming comments any time anything negative is said about Ron Paul. Some supporters get worked up over the smallest things. We should just let things be. We should do our best to combat deception, but bombarding people with e-mail is not the way. Hell, even the HQ is overwhelmed with e-mails. You guys seriously need to cool it and show some restraint.

 

[filmmaker58]

To heck with them. if they are going to say "you can't possibly win", or "Are you going to run as a third party?" Then they deserve the flood. However, if they are fair, and treat him with respect, then a few thousand "thank you's" might be a bit much.

 

[rockwell]

That's a better excuse than the dog ate my keyboard, but equally vacuous.

They didn't cover him when there were no supporters because he had no supporters, now they don't cover him because there are too many supporters, they didn't cover him because he had no money, now they don't cover because he has too much money.

The MSM is not some kind of independent group of really cool writer guys and grizzled old editors who are tough as nails, but kind hearted , or Lois Lane/Jimmy Olsen combos- it is a giant criminal enterprise with less than a dozen owners who have an agenda and it hasn't got anything to do with the truth, being a watchdog over the public weal and judging from the catastrophic collapse of viewers and readership, it isn't even about the money. They'd rather take a loss than tell you the truth because they know if you find out how much you've been deliberately misled and lied to and how many of our sons and daughters lives have been spent in satisfying their larger goals and objectives, that you aren't just going to march on DC with your pitchforks and torches, you're coming down to Gannett and Time Warner and you'll be coming for blood.

They can't cover Ron Paul objectively because he is the death sentence of the MSM. Just as darkness abhors the light, the press cannot withstand the scrutiny of an informed populace and baby, we're becoming informed- not all of us- on this forum I see otherwise intelligent people argue until they're blue in the face about how we ought to lay off, back down, ignore, put off or deliberately STFU about a host of topics because of how the MSM will cover us in a negative light- Will cover us?
Haven't you been paying attention? It's all they have ever done.

And think about this for one second, if everyone who ever dreamed about supporting Ron Paul became Miss Manners tomorrow, what's to stop his opponents and their supporters from continuing to 'go for them' in our name? And knowing how they lie, what's to prevent them from saying we are anyway?

You know the answer to that even if you aren't ready to acknowledge it.

No, the answer isn't in doing anything different, in fact, I'd suggest you ramp it up, I encourage everyone to redouble their efforts, let them know what's coming, because it's the end of the way things used to be. We've been disenfranchised and disenchanted, dumbed down and shut up, ignored and inveigled against, excluded and insulted for far too long.

This is our country and we're taking it back.

 

[RonPaulFTFW]

Awwwwwwwww.

boo hoo.

they think that a few death threats from wackos and masses of email gives them the right to stop doing their job? their well paid and well funded easy jobs?

give me a break.

God the media makes me sick.

 

[Flash]

Its important to flood MSM when they slander Ron Paul. You can't just let big media networks slander him and expect that it will not seriously injure the campaign. Do you see how fast Huckabee is plummitting? Its not because people decided to look into his backround, it was because MSM decided to report on it.

 

[Eponym_mi]

It has come to the point that they now dread mentioning Ron, because good or bad, they and/or their staff have to spend hours going through the tons of emails.

If the avalanche of emails they're getting is as bad as you're suggesting, it seems to me they'd acknowledge that all their polls may be wrong and Ron will probably win or at the every least do a lot better than expected. And maybe treat Ron with at least the same amount of respect as they do the other candidates.

Now, if they're getting a flood of negative response based on what little positive coverage they do on Ron, that might be another story. In any case, it seems to me they're ignoring the obvious. I have no sympathy for them...being accountable to the public is part of their job.

 

[Alex Libman]

Rockwell is right.

 

[deehrler]

Spend your energies getting friends to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.

 

[bucfish]

Really though tone it down be nice in asking for things. You get more flies with honey!!!

I call a week of silence to the MSM and focus on the local media in a very kind way!!!

 

[RonPaulRocksMyWorld]

...being accountable to the public is part of their job.

Agreed. +1000

 

[walt]

That's a better excuse than the dog ate my keyboard, but equally vacuous.

They didn't cover him when there were no supporters because he had no supporters, now they don't cover him because there are too many supporters, they didn't cover him because he had no money, now they don't cover because he has too much money.

The MSM is not some kind of independent group of really cool writer guys and grizzled old editors who are tough as nails, but kind hearted , or Lois Lane/Jimmy Olsen combos- it is a giant criminal enterprise with less than a dozen owners who have an agenda and it hasn't got anything to do with the truth, being a watchdog over the public weal and judging from the catastrophic collapse of viewers and readership, it isn't even about the money. They'd rather take a loss than tell you the truth because they know if you find out how much you've been deliberately misled and lied to and how many of our sons and daughters lives have been spent in satisfying their larger goals and objectives, that you aren't just going to march on DC with your pitchforks and torches, you're coming down to Gannett and Time Warner and you'll be coming for blood.

They can't cover Ron Paul objectively because he is the death sentence of the MSM. Just as darkness abhors the light, the press cannot withstand the scrutiny of an informed populace and baby, we're becoming informed- not all of us- on this forum I see otherwise intelligent people argue until they're blue in the face about how we ought to lay off, back down, ignore, put off or deliberately STFU about a host of topics because of how the MSM will cover us in a negative light- Will cover us?
Haven't you been paying attention? It's all they have ever done.

And think about this for one second, if everyone who ever dreamed about supporting Ron Paul became Miss Manners tomorrow, what's to stop his opponents and their supporters from continuing to 'go for them' in our name? And knowing how they lie, what's to prevent them from saying we are anyway?

You know the answer to that even if you aren't ready to acknowledge it.

No, the answer isn't in doing anything different, in fact, I'd suggest you ramp it up, I encourage everyone to redouble their efforts, let them know what's coming, because it's the end of the way things used to be. We've been disenfranchised and disenchanted, dumbed down and shut up, ignored and inveigled against, excluded and insulted for far too long.

This is our country and we're taking it back.

Wow. That is like one of the best posts I've ever seen on this board.

 

[Hangly Man]

No chance the "death threats" were from astroturfers working for other campaigns is there? Because you know that happens sometimes.

 

[Captain Shays]

Rockwell,


Right on! Don't stop or let them stop us. Those guys have billions of dollars sono way will I believe that they can't hire a hundred people just to go through the extra emails.

These are vampires pleading with us to shut the curtains so that the sun doesn't shine on them. Please put those crosses and garlic away, we can't stand it anymore.

They're small children sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting nanananana so they don't have to hear that which exposes their life long fraud.

 

[Hangly Man]

being accountable to the public is part of their job.

They're accountable to the people who sign their paychecks, and therein lies the problem.

 

[voytechs]

Thats their job!! WTH is this. They want to do news, well this is news. Lazy. They can stop all of this on their own, start giving him good and honest converage and they will get nothing but thank yous. If they do it often enough they won't get hammered because it will be common.

Its their fault.

 

[rodent]

First off, let me declare that I personally do not know anyone in the MSM, so take this as second hand information and not necessarily fact.

Maybe reporters should be less lazy and learn to work with their public. What do these idiots at the MSM think? If they spew their words out for the public, the public is going to have an opinion. It comes with the territory.

Sorry for being crass, but the media can fuck off. Do you see what they are saying? It would be like a rock star saying he didn't want to put on another concert because of the paparazzi or because he just didn't like the large crowds that showed up. Wank, wank, oh no, there's too many groupies, yada yada.

God, if I weren't someone who respected private property and the rule of law, I'd be out burning down media owned buildings. They've done nothing but anger me during this process. Fortunately for them, I have no criminal record and a fairly mild-mannered personality.

 

[ChristopherJ]

I bet Cafferty doesn't get threats. He seems to like all the attention it brings when he mentions RP.

 

[JDouglasFisher]

Folks, Folks, Folks,

TIME OUT!...

Whenever the MSM does ANY reporting on Ron Paul, we should notify them that we are aware.

When they do good, (Like Glenn Beck did) we should send them praise for doing a good job. (hey, we all like to hear time to time that we are doing a good job..)

When they do poorly, (like Tim Russert did recently) yes, we should notify them that they did wrong... BUT...

Just like the political pundits who like to spin things in their favor, we all need to learn the same. SPIN IT into our favor..

I emailed Tim Russert. I didn't scream, threaten, or verbally assault his staff...

Instead, I thanked him for being extra harsh on Ron Paul. You see, not only did he make a complete ass of himself, but he also showed America two things:

1.) They have practically nothing against Ron Paul, and are scraping the bottom of the barrel for anything, and.....

2.) By them being extra harsh, it allowed Ron Paul to not only show the audience that he can withstand scrutiny, even under the harshest of conditions, but that he does have a set of balls to say "hey, back off a minute, you don't know what your talking about.." Being a man of his convictions, and being "Like a Rock", are excellant traits that many Americans look for in a leader.

Now granted, my choice of words that I used were much nicer than those used here, but Mom always said Kill them with kindness.

As for their arguements that they don't want to mention RP because of the volume of emails, listen, this is a lie. Not to mention the fact that they will have no choice but to report on him once he gets the Republican Nomination.

as an aside, RE: Being Loony...

Listen, many people (atleast in new jersey) don't think we are all that "loony" despite what the media says. Today alone (yes, on Christmas Eve) I converted a police officer and an elderly couple who admittedly said they have given up on the republicans. Everyone I talk to admits that we are VERY active. Few think we are "loony"..

The cop, after checking in on myself, my soon to be wife, and another supporter (who we met to exchange campaign related materials..) asked if first we were "ok". (My friend Joe had his truck lid open on his car) Right off the bat I introduced myself as "Joseph Fisher, Organizer of the Passaic County Republicans for Ron Paul". Then, after seeing my pick up truck full of banners, and lawn signs, asked me "Who is this RON PAUL guy, and why do I ONLY see his signs everywhere, and no one else's.

Needless to say, after a half hour conversation with him, not only did he take some campaign materials back to police HQ (because many cops in this town are curious) but he took a lawn sign for himself and stuffed it into the front seat of the police cruiser to stick in front of his home. (I offered it to him, he didn't confiscate it)..

As for the elderly couple, they just happened to be walking past us when we were taking down a storm damaged banner, and replacing it with a new one (in New Jersey, we try hard to keep a good image, worn banners are often replaced with fresh ones wherever needed). They told me and my Loretta that they knew who Ron Paul was (thanks to our banner) but that they have given up on the Republican Party... Again, I introduced myself professionally (mind you I looked like a slob, ripped jeans, a not so clean Carhardt jacket, a true working man) and I ran off a couple of issues that seem to work well in New Jersey (Healthcare, Taxes, Immigration) and within 5 minutes, I had them excited and promising me that they would vote for Ron Paul. (by the way, elderly like to hear that there are other elderly people in our campaign efforts...)

Remember, be professional, reassure the voter that there are MANY other supporters out there just like themselves, and monopolize on the fact that this is our message to our government that we are no longer allowing them to separate us, disenfranchise us, and lie to us.

You'd be surprised how many elderly people (and senior citizens) actually use the internet. They are not as disconnected as the MSM would like us to think...

J. Douglas Fisher, Organizer
Ron Paul Revolutionaries of Passaic County #1251
a.k.a. Passaic County Republicans for Ron Paul.