Impeaching the Official Campaign "Poll"

[VoteForRonPaul]

And now I am asking those people who voted that they trust this campaign to prove to us that their campaign is worthy of trust by sending our voices of "demanding a change" to Ron Paul through their so called trusted campaign. And if you cannot do this then this would be another proof added to why a large number of RP's supporters do not trust this campaign!

Okay guys I am renewing my challenge to the people who voted that they trust the campaign and I am asking them to deliver our voices through their trusted campaign to Ron Paul and bring us his response. We demand a change of this inefficient campaign!

1. Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee
3461 Washington Blvd Suite 200
Arlington, Virginia 22201
2. FEC Committee ID #: C00432914
4. Report Type = MAR MONTHLY
5. Covering Period 02/01/2008 Through 02/29/2008
6. Cash on Hand at BEGINNING of the Reporting Period...... 6,002,188.18
7. Total Receipts This Period............................. 1,818,999.54
8. Subtotal (6 + 7)....................................... 7,821,187.72
9. Total Disbursements This Period........................ 2,251,023.09
10. Cash on Hand at CLOSE of the Reporting Period......... 5,570,164.63
11. Debts and Obligations Owed TO the Committee........... 0.00
12. Debts and Obligations Owed BY the Committee........... 0.00
13. Expenditures Subject To Limitation.................... 0.00
14. NET Contributions (Other than Loans).................. 34,157,697.94
15. NET Operating Expenditures............................ 28,735,134.35​

RPPCC Still had $5.5 MILLION on hand as of 2/29.

Here's a breakdown of major expenses (categories over $10K) for FEBRUARY:

Television Spot Expense/Production............... 559,195.00
Telecommunications............................... 290,586.22
Reimbursement Expenses........................... 215,152.61
Freight/Shipping Expenses........................ 165,676.47
Salaries......................................... 161,427.52
Payroll Tax Expense.............................. 161,320.07
Credit Card Contributions Processing Fee......... 148,527.50
Airline Travel................................... 91,979.99
Consulting-Political Field Work.................. 82,374.74
Bulk Mail Printing/Processing/Postage............ 77,504.40
Print Advertising................................ 50,000.00
Travel-Hotel Accomodations....................... 45,369.61
Petition Coordination............................ 43,433.61
Signs/Sign Supplies.............................. 42,595.47
Books/Magazines.................................. 40,000.00
Rent Expense..................................... 31,588.32
Ballot Access Coordinator........................ 27,633.43
Petitioner....................................... 24,849.75
Travel-Car Rental................................ 24,419.13
Food Expense..................................... 22,004.86
Telephone Expense................................ 21,902.43
Mileage Expense.................................. 16,045.48
Catering......................................... 15,342.53
Political Field Work............................. 14,127.00
Office Supplies.................................. 13,031.57
Media Expense.................................... 13,009.14
Accounting Services.............................. 10,833.45
Radio Spot Expense............................... 10,288.60
Credit Card Payment.............................. 10,004.52
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[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

How do you define being constructive?

If we cannot even impeach our campaign' leaders who granted us failure and ignored alot of us, so how do you think we will impeach Bush and Cheney?

The campaign is not serving at your pleasure. That's what it comes down to. They are not our representitives, nor has there ever been the impression that they were.

The campaign could have done some things differently. But, it's the crooked media and the machine in general that have made things tough.

If you're going to suggest you can impeach someone who owes you nothing, I say you start with the media. And yeah... maybe you would have spent funds differently in hindsight, but I can go on for days about the rock star I'd be if I knew what I know now when I was 18.

At the same time, don't "get over it." Be pissed off about the happenings of the last year. Be really pissed off.

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

At the same time, don't "get over it." Be pissed off about the happenings of the last year. Be really pissed off.

Yes I am pissed off and this campaign is one of the major reasons why I am so pissed off and I am not alone!!!
Could you tell me why Ron Paul is struggling to be in the news papers in PA and why he is struggling to be on TV in PA and could you tell me why Ron Paul is not in PA? And could you tell me why the official campaign is not supporting the high tide Ad which got a great response from the grassroots while the official campaign is sitting over 5 millions dollars of the money of the grassroots? Is this the way they reward the hard work?
Please visit here, here and here , please click on every single link to see how the people are struggling to get the message out while the campaign is doing NOTHING.

The campaign is not serving at your pleasure. That's what it comes down to. They are not our representitives, nor has there ever been the impression that they were.

What you are saying is truly shocking and I wonder how many people here agree with what you are saying

The campaign could have done some things differently. But, it's the crooked media and the machine in general that have made things tough.

This takes me to the conclusion that they could have done things differently but they did not do it which equals to what we call failure and lack of experience

If you're going to suggest you can impeach someone who owes you nothing

How about 5 millions dollars

But, it's the crooked media and the machine in general that have made things tough.

The crooked MSM is not working for us but on the other hand the official campaign should be working for us and that is exactly what they failed to prove that they were doing.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

The campaign is not serving at your pleasure. That's what it comes down to. They are not our representitives, nor has there ever been the impression that they were.

What you are saying is truly shocking and I wonder how many people here agree with what you are saying

It's not even mildly shocking. Every time I open my wallet, I make a judgement regarding the confidence I have at that time regarding whatever I'm purchasing.

I'm not saying the campaign staff is or was flawless. Could we trade Paul's staff with McCain staff and see Paul in the position McCain is now? Absolutely not.

Many, including myself, were more idealistic that Paul would be given a remotely fair chance to speak. The staff did the best they could in the face of what they were dealing with. Paul is trying to force an untold number of companies and people off of the government gravy train. It's not easy. You can't hire a campaign staff that can do that.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Paul is trying to force an untold number of companies and people off of the government gravy train. It's not easy. You can't hire a campaign staff that can do that.

And I have to add this... I knew the media were not impartial all along, but I did have at least some belief that the republican party would be willing to let the chips fall and put their most popular candidate forward. They undermined him every chance they got, with the cooperation of media. The republican party cared less about winning this election and more about continuing their own corruption. If Paul wins, most of the republican power base loses. I doubt any candidate has a campaign staff that's experienced in dealing with that.

In any case, of course we all have a stake in the campaign staff being competent. I'm not saying you don't. I just don't see any evidence to believe that any other staff would have done better under those circumstances. It's not the staff failing us. It's the media and their interests, along with the republican party and their interests.

 

[Meekus]

I am somewhat surprised at this thread. For me, ultimately, I am behind RP and the people HE chose. This harsh criticism of the campaign is both pointless and divisive.

This blame game crap is nonsense.

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

It's not even mildly shocking. Every time I open my wallet, I make a judgement regarding the confidence I have at that time regarding whatever I'm purchasing.

This means that you admit that this campaign might has betrayed the trust of a large number of Ron Paul! Very nice!

I'm not saying the campaign staff is or was flawless. Could we trade Paul's staff with McCain staff and see Paul in the position McCain is now? Absolutely not.

How do you know it is absolutely not? Your predictions does not work because the majority of Ron Paul supporters believe that this campaign staffing is one of the worst campaigns ever!

The staff did the best they could in the face of what they were dealing with. Paul is trying to force an untold number of companies and people off of the government gravy train. It's not easy. You can't hire a campaign staff that can do that.

First: If you believe that this campaign has done its best so why they do not step aside and give the opportunity to other people who might do better instead of pursuing with their dictatorship while they know that the grassroots are not satisfied with their work!
Second: You are contradicting your previous statements by saying this campaign has done its best. If this campaign has done its best then please answer my questions which you chose to skip and ignore exactly the same way the campaign ignored the grassroots and here are my questions again;

Could you tell me why Ron Paul is struggling to be in the news papers in PA? and why he is struggling to be on TV in PA? and could you tell me why Ron Paul is not in PA? And could you tell me why the official campaign is not supporting the high tide Ad which got a great response from the grassroots while the official campaign is sitting over 5 millions dollars of the money of the grassroots? Is this the way they reward the hard work?
Please visit here, here and here , please click on every single link to see how the people are struggling to get the message out while the campaign is doing NOTHING. And could you tell me why this campaign failed to buy a consistent air time when they had and still have the money? And could you tell me what this campaign was doing while Mccain was allover the middle east and on TV everyday? And could you tell me what this campaign has done to prove to the American people that Ron Paul is still head to head with McCain?

I did have at least some belief that the republican party would be willing to let the chips fall and put their most popular candidate forward. They undermined him every chance they got, with the cooperation of media.

You should add to this "with the cooperation of a useless RP's campaign"

I am still waiting your answers to my questions PERIOD

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

This means that you admit that this campaign might has betrayed the trust of a large number of Ron Paul! Very nice!

That's just plain goofy. That's not what I said, and I honestly don't have time to haggle with you like that.

When you come up with a plan to put a better team in place, go for it. I doubt it will happen with your current approach.

 

[Bro.Butch]

I would add another multiple choice answer that reads: No we shouldn't impeach anyone, since none of us really know the day-to-day goings on in campaign HQ. The proverbial "walk a mile in someone else's shoes," comes to mind.
Maybe they are guilty of some serious flubs, maybe they aren't. But until you've worked on a major national campaign for a presidential candidate, I don't feel it's fair - on principle - to be certain they've done something wrong.
The major fact is: Ron Paul was almost completely ignored or sidelined my the MSM. Without constant t.v. coverage, there's no chance for anyone. How do you control that?

That's the problem they had never worked on a major POTUS campaign.

Run ads with a TV station and they might cover you more...

If they don’t spend the money on this campaign and just stretch it out to collect their overpaid salaries for six more months it is FRAUD and I will lose much respect for Ron Paul for allowing it to happen.

This was the worse run campaign this cycle and one of the worst of all time.

Moore and Snyder should have been fired the day after NH voted !

They should go down in infamy in all your minds as the two men most responsible for squandering the greatest grassroots effort in the history of the FREEDOM movement.

Now in selfish mode, they sit on $5 million given to carry the campaign to the nation !

Fraud shear FRAUD if it isn’t used on this POTUS campaign.

 

[New York For Paul]

To be fair, most of the political consulting establishment tends to be out of date with newer methods of campaigning. They tend to rely on TV and big media because there are fifteen percent commissions.

The political industrial complex likes concentrated money and spending on TV and Radio. As a result, the grassroots always get the short end of the of the stick because there appears to be less money to be made by the consultants who work in this area.

It has the same affect as economic strip mining. In political strip mining, the consultants fly in, take the money, spend the money and leave nothing left for the local grassroots.

So the volunteers and future candidates get little or no training because the campaign never spend enough money in these areas. In the end the local areas are left worse off because of the campaign. The money is sucked dry for large national efforts.

To be fair to the Ron Paul campaign, at least they tolerated and encouraged grassroots movements and independent campaigning.

I am still annoyed that the Ron Paul campaign did drop the ball in their own official grassroots effort. From what I have read, Obama may have been the candidate too really make use of a grassroots campaign. You look at the number of donors and number of employees for Obama and spending and Obama is the grassroots candidate. But then again, Obama's early career was that of a political organizer.

This happens in both parties.

The campaign consultants fly in, spend the money on TV, give nothing to grassroots and leave the area after the election. The results, the grassroot activists get demoralized and build no political establishment for future campaign runs.

 

[Aratus]

new york for ron paul! tis old media! again read marshall mcluhan!

 

[New York For Paul]

new york for ron paul! tis old media! again read marshall mcluhan!

Looks like you are on to something. I will have a lot of reading to do.

 

[Aratus]

http://www9.georgetown.edu/faculty/irvinem/theory/McLuhan-Understanding_Media-1-1-7.html

here is a link, to give you a feel.



also even though its almost pure fiction,
edwin o'conner's THE LAST HURRAH is a must read!
it shows how tv and radio shattered the political machines
http://kellehm.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/the-last-hurrah-by-edwin-oconnor/
like tammany hall in my home state! it then was a film with spencer tracy!

 

[Aratus]

the media consultant replaces the machine hack 50 years ago!

To be fair, most of the political consulting establishment tends to be out of date with newer methods of campaigning. They tend to rely on TV and big media because there are fifteen percent commissions.

The political industrial complex likes concentrated money and spending on TV and Radio. As a result, the grassroots always get the short end of the of the stick because there appears to be less money to be made by the consultants who work in this area.

It has the same affect as economic strip mining. In political strip mining, the consultants fly in, take the money, spend the money and leave nothing left for the local grassroots.

So the volunteers and future candidates get little or no training because the campaign never spend enough money in these areas. In the end the local areas are left worse off because of the campaign. The money is sucked dry for large national efforts.

To be fair to the Ron Paul campaign, at least they tolerated and encouraged grassroots movements and independent campaigning.

I am still annoyed that the Ron Paul campaign did drop the ball in their own official grassroots effort. From what I have read, Obama may have been the candidate too really make use of a grassroots campaign. You look at the number of donors and number of employees for Obama and spending and Obama is the grassroots candidate. But then again, Obama's early career was that of a political organizer.

This happens in both parties.

The campaign consultants fly in, spend the money on TV, give nothing to grassroots and leave the area after the election. The results, the grassroot activists get demoralized and build no political establishment for future campaign runs.

perceptive posting!

 

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

enough. this thread sucks.

If you can't trust Paul to pick good campaign people, how can you trust him to pick good people to fill government positions. If you don't like what the campaign is doing. Go out and do it better yourself. Stop preaching to a small group of people on these forums.

 

[Primbs]

I went to a political conference this week where I heard these ideas.
It has been a subtle issue in both parties.
Most people are not willing to knock the political consultants that hard.

 

[DeadtoSin]

I suppose there are upsides to the campaign not paying much attention to these boards.

 

[SteveMartin]

What campaign? All we ever had was an issues promotion team.

 

[AZ Libertarian]

Let's Cut Through The Bull$hit!

The major fact is that this campaign did not buy consistent air time when they had and still have the money PERIOD

The question now is; How to change that?

I agree with this sentiment 100%! This is the CRUX of the biscuit. WE NEED TO SEE RON'S FACE ON TV!!!!! This is the ONLY thing I have had and WILL have sticking in my craw UNTIL IT IS CORRECTED!!!!

Had (whoever) flooded the TV market with every last PENNY, it would be a TOTALLY DIFFERENT RACE! You know it and I know it - how can people who have been supposedly picked for this purpose NOT know it!?!

I have had the feeling for a long time now, and it gets stronger every day, that someone somewhere has been taking BRIBES TO DRAG THEIR FEET. There, I said it. Attack me if you wish, but it won't change how I feel, nor will it slow me down in my efforts to make Ron President!

Ed Vallejo
Organizer
Phoenix Meetup Group

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

enough. this thread sucks.
If you can't trust Paul to pick good campaign people, how can you trust him to pick good people to fill government positions......

Ron Paul did not ask us to be sheep! And he also did not ask us to turn the blind eye when we things going wrong!

Second; Do you think Ron Paul knows that a large number of the grassroots is not satisfied with the performance of this campaign? If he does not know then it is our fault, because we failed to inform him all this time. Ron Paul has only two eyes while we the people have millions and therefore we should act immediately and inform him.