Imagine if we stick together...Studying MoveOn.org

[Mckarnin]

http://www.moveon.org/

I have been watching some of the "Obama in 30 seconds" ads. Yes, I am on the MoveOn.org mailing list (part of my research). Now granted, they have millions of members but they were only founded 7 years ago and when they asked their members to create Obama ads (earlier this year members were asked to choose Obama or Hillary) they received thousands. I just think it's cool to look at their website, membership and these ads and imagine where the Freedom Movement can be in a few years if we stick together...

 

[phrizek]

I have a feeling that after the national convention Paul will introduce a similar type of organization to continue the revolution that his campaign started.

 

[menoname]

http://www.moveon.org/

I have been watching some of the "Obama in 30 seconds" ads. Yes, I am on the MoveOn.org mailing list (part of my research). Now granted, they have millions of members but they were only founded 7 years ago and when they asked their members to create Obama ads (earlier this year members were asked to choose Obama or Hillary) they received thousands. I just think it's cool to look at their website, membership and these ads and imagine where the Freedom Movement can be in a few years if we stick together...

I hope someone does something similar for this cause. Maybe RP can lend some money form the campaign to start it up, probably unlikely though with the FEC. I think RP will give more of a direction for the revolution after the convention.

 

[Primbs]

http://www.moveon.org/

I have been watching some of the "Obama in 30 seconds" ads. Yes, I am on the MoveOn.org mailing list (part of my research). Now granted, they have millions of members but they were only founded 7 years ago and when they asked their members to create Obama ads (earlier this year members were asked to choose Obama or Hillary) they received thousands. I just think it's cool to look at their website, membership and these ads and imagine where the Freedom Movement can be in a few years if we stick together...

The liberals groups are very good a grassroots activism. We could learn a lot from them. Obama has raised how much?

150 million dollars.

 

[Paul Revered]

That is the second most important thing that Ron Paul has done for us.

1.) He opened our eyes.
2.) He brought us together.

We must take good care of these gifts.

 

[aravoth]

That is the second most important thing that Ron Paul has done for us.

1.) He opened our eyes.
2.) He brought us together.

We must take good care of these gifts.

well spoken

 

[0zzy]

I have always wanted to make one. But I don't feel confident enough to do so quite yet.

 

[Conza88]

The liberals groups are very good a grassroots activism. We could learn a lot from them. Obama has raised how much?

150 million dollars.

How much is corporate donated?

- yea, most of it.

Moveon.org is the current anti-republican (WANNABE anti-establishment) group.

They think Bush is the only problem. And you get rid of the republicans, America's problems will be solved..

These guys are on the right track. They recognise shit is wrong.. they just cldn't find the solution, even if it hit them in the fken face. Which it has [his name is Ron Paul].

They're part of the problem when it comes down to it. They're the false left paradigm. They have their uses to the establishment.. i.e Global Warming. Carbon tax bitches... and the repubs are the false right.

You get our movement, you get the real solution. Constitution. Moveon is big cus it has msm backing, quite literallly... all apart of making it out as if there is dissenting voices.. as if there will be a change when the dems come in.

 

[0zzy]

I hate it when people say, "If we get out of Iraq, we can socialize education, health care, the housing market, and the job market here at home! Imagine all that money that goes to Iraq!" It's like, do they not realize we don't own the money we are using to have that war?

"It's okay if we go into a deficit with entitlements going into 70trillion dollars, as long as our people are well taken care of! And the best way to take care of the people, is to socialize the problem." Makes me want to pull my hair out.

 

[H Roark]

http://www.moveon.org/

I have been watching some of the "Obama in 30 seconds" ads. Yes, I am on the MoveOn.org mailing list (part of my research). Now granted, they have millions of members but they were only founded 7 years ago and when they asked their members to create Obama ads (earlier this year members were asked to choose Obama or Hillary) they received thousands. I just think it's cool to look at their website, membership and these ads and imagine where the Freedom Movement can be in a few years if we stick together...

We do have something like MoveOn, its called http://DownsizeDC.org

 

[UtahApocalypse]

I have a feeling that after the national convention Paul will introduce a similar type of organization to continue the revolution that his campaign started.

I doubt that..... WE the freedom loving liberty minded supporters will form one. We already have quite a few groups, we need to all come together.

If you think about it we already have more resources then moveon.org... we have LIVE Internet radio stations started, We have blogs, news site, message boards... etc.

Another thing is moveon.org is more top-down leadership based; they get a idea, compel the members to donate money for it, they HIRE someone or agency to carry it out. Our group runs different; We all discuss ideas and evolve them together, we all come together and donate money and time, We find people within our groups to create and present the ideas. What it comes down too is we all have equal opportunity to be a part of the Revolution. We are not just pocket books to the cause.

I think that a group will form from all of these groups and we will grow and become much like moveon.org. We have the ability, we have the passion, we will continue onward.

 

[AisA1787]

Another thing is moveon.org is more top-down leadership based; they get a idea, compel the members to donate money for it, they HIRE someone or agency to carry it out.

Yes, MoveOn.org is VERY top-down leadership-based. In fact, they are the furthest thing from "grassroots" that I can think of. Ever heard of George Soros?

George Soros: The Man, The Mind And The Money Behind MoveOn
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:20 PM PT
http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=275181103776079

some excerpts:

And since 2003, tearing down what he [Soros] views as the "fascist" tyranny of the United States, as he has put it, is "the central focus of my life."

Through networks of nongovernmental organizations, Soros intends to ruin the presidency of George W. Bush "by any legal means necessary" and knock America off its global pedestal. "His view of America is so negative," says Sen. Joe Lieberman, who, like Gen. David Petraeus, has been a target of Soros' electoral "philanthropy." "The places he's put his money are . . . so destructive that it unsettles me." Soros' aim seems to be to make the U.S. just another client state easily controlled by the United Nations and other one-world groups where he has lots of friends.

Best known among these groups is MoveOn.org, a previously small fringe-left group to which Soros has given $5 million since 2004. Bulked up by cash, the group now uses professional public relations tactics to undercut the Iraq War effort, with its latest a full-page New York Times ad that branded Gen. Petraeus "General Betray Us."

Soros additionally finances groups best described as helpful to terrorists. Since 1998, he has given the American Civil Liberties Union $5 million to empower criminals, including lawsuits on behalf of terrorists' "civil rights."

Soros' Open Society Institute gave $20,000 for the legal defense of radical attorney Lynne Stewart. She was convicted in 2002 of abetting jailed terrorists after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

Soros additionally finances groups supporting the interests of one-world government. While he has criticized the United Nations occasionally, he favors U.N. dominance in world affairs, sees the European Union as a model for "open society" and has called for a global central bank.

 

[Mckarnin]

Yes, MoveOn.org is VERY top-down leadership-based. In fact, they are the furthest thing from "grassroots" that I can think of. Ever heard of George Soros?

George Soros: The Man, The Mind And The Money Behind MoveOn
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:20 PM PT
http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=275181103776079

some excerpts:

I mentioned the top down funding of MoveOn.org to someone just last night...

The point I was really making is that they have millions of members after 7 years. No reason why we can't do the same. The organization I am working to start is educational and will not be doing advocacy but we plan to grow large quickly once we get going.

 

[libertarian4321]

How much is corporate donated?

- yea, most of it.

Actually, most of Obama's contributions come from individuals- and he is getting a ton from small contributors (Hillary has more from PACs and big "bundlers").

BTW, corporations can't give directly to a candidate, though they can give to PACs (Obama has received less than $1 million from PACs/Other- less than 0.5% percent of his contributions).

Just because you don't agree with Obama doesn't mean "all his money comes from corporations."

If you want to see for yourself: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp?cycle=2008

We need to watch successful operations, whether we like them or not, and learn from them- Obama's campaign and moveon are good examples.

 

[Knightskye]

Now granted, they have millions of members but they were only founded 7 years ago

They were founded ten years ago, in 1998, in response to Bill Clinton's impeachment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoveOn.org

*Cough*

But I like the idea. We just need a website with a short, catchy title.

 

[Mckarnin]

They were founded ten years ago, in 1998, in response to Bill Clinton's impeachment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoveOn.org

*Cough*

But I like the idea. We just need a website with a short, catchy title.

Ok, I must have been reading old info....let me go see where I got those lies about 7 years from.

Found the source of the lies...I had the 7 year figure stick in my head because of the PDF image on the lower right hand side of this page: http://www.moveon.org/about.html

Sorry.

 

[TruthAtLast]

Funny how their homepage says "click here to view our new ad" and links to the donation page. hahaha

 

[constituent]

http://www.freedomforceinternational.org

IMO the most important organization to throw our numbers behind.

g. edward griffin is a genuine steward of the "american tradition," and someone who folks should go out of their way to help/encourage.

 

[TruthAtLast]

http://www.freedomforceinternational.org

IMO the most important organization to throw our numbers behind.

g. edward griffin is a genuine steward of the "american tradition," and someone who folks should go out of their way to help/encourage.

yes, I'm a member. Donating $100 per month.

 

[humanic]

http://www.freedomforceinternational.org

IMO the most important organization to throw our numbers behind.

g. edward griffin is a genuine steward of the "american tradition," and someone who folks should go out of their way to help/encourage.

Agreed.