I'm voting for Palin/mccain

[newyearsrevolution08]

What is not true ?

McCain's Panama problem is real - he was NOT born in the United States - that is a certain fact.

Born at "Colon Hospital" by John Wallace?

 

[brianewart]

McCain = Fascism

Obama = Socialism


Choose your poison.

 

[malibuu]

McCain = Fascism

Obama = Socialism


Choose your poison.

NOT voting for President/VP is still a vote . . .

"You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."

Free Will, Rush

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYzGMxGq9rM

 

[acptulsa]

What is not true ?

McCain's Panama problem is real - he was NOT born in the United States - that is a certain fact.

Where did you get this? This confirms that he wasn't even born in the Canal Zone.

 

[malibuu]

Born at "Colon Hospital" by John Wallace?

The name is funny - the local hospital was in an area of Panama called Colon Beach, but was moved in 1957.

And well, yes, this photocopy does NOT actually prove anything in itself.

But it is certain that McCain was NOT born in the United States and as far as I know he has refused to produce a birth certificate himself.

 

[malibuu]

Where did you get this? This confirms that he wasn't even born in the Canal Zone.

The Naval Hospital was not authorized to be built until 1941, 5 years after the birth of a baby boy John Shipley McCain III on August 29, 1936,
so the claim he was born at a Naval Hospital are definitely not true -
not that that even matters.

 

[acptulsa]

But it is certain that McCain was NOT born in the United States and as far as I know he has refused to produce a birth certificate himself.

Ah yes. The Great Constitutionalist in action.

What an unbelievable breach of the ultimate law of the land. I still wish we could get traction with this.

 

[orafi]

lol whatever.

What choice is there? They're both the same.

It comes down to annoyance level. Ironically so do most current tv shows.

if they're the same, why not just throw your support to third parties that are different? i mean, the point of the movement is to show the establishment that we are sick and tired and we're not going to take it anymore!

 

[SnappleLlama]

John McCain's citizenship was ruled on a few days ago:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iJ3AHoO_Qz6G8f2AyVBVqU0q9RkwD938R6D80

 

[ProBlue33]

McCain = Fascism

Obama = Socialism


Choose your poison.

Ok I will bite

Cheaper Health care through taxation VS being drafted and sent to war through taxation . Hmmm I know what poison I want, how about you?

 

[The_Orlonater]

Ok I will bite

Cheaper Health care through taxation VS being drafted and sent to war through taxation . Hmmm I know what poison I want, how about you?

Enjoy the line!

I hope you enjoy Iran, Afganistan, or Pakistan too. Partey?

 

[malibuu]

Originally posted by malibuu
McCain's Panama problem is real - he was NOT born in the United States - that is a certain fact.

John McCain's citizenship was ruled on a few days ago:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iJ3AHoO_Qz6G8f2AyVBVqU0q9RkwD938R6D80

Sorry, but you are distorting the Court ruling -

It is absolutely not true that the dismissed case ruled on Mccain's citizenship,

It was dismissed for not having standing to sue, only a jurisdictional problem in the pleading.

 

[malibuu]

And McCain is wrong if he thinks his Panama problem is related to Goldwater's situation -

McCain was born under the sovereign flag of the Republica de Panama -
not a territory like Arizona that subsequently became a state of the Union.

http://www.abajournal.com/news/judge_tosses_suit_claiming_mccain_is_not_a_citizen/

This is really a great ruling - McCain IS a "statutory" citizen (to use Supreme Court language) -
but his constitutional eligibility as the nation executive is what we are concerned with.

McCain is not "native-born" as the language of U.S. Const. Art. II, 1. has already been interpreted in Supreme Court opinions.

It also was only a lawsuit that had contended John McCain is not a U.S. citizen
and the U.S. District Judge William Alsup said McCain’s birth in the Panama Canal Zone "made him a citizen under the relevant statutes."

 

[angelatc]

And McCain is wrong if he thinks his Panama problem is related to Goldwater's situation -

McCain was born under the sovereign flag of the Republica de Panama -
not a territory like Arizona that subsequently became a state of the Union.

He was born to two US citizens, idiot.

 

[malibuu]

He was born to two US citizens, idiot.

Yes, it even says that in his birth certificate under the sovereign flag of Panama.

So McCain only acquired citizenship - by jus sanguinis - due to that both of his parents were U.S. citizens.

But his place of birth was NOT in the United States.