I'm Taking Charge. Ideas for the New Site

Much of what your describing is already set up through https://www.ronpaul2008.com

It breaks down this way. National HQ, State Organizer, County Organizer, Precinct Leader, Volunteers, Ron Paul voters.

This provides the structure and sets up lines of communication. Most all resources are there (Maps, walking list, training videos, phone scripts, etc) and improvements are being made Daily to make it more user friendly while keeping info secure, so that no one is accessing info that should not be. (Trolls) Once you sign up as Precinct leader you have access to contact others in your county so we can coordinate from National HQ to State level, County on down to Precinct and volunteers. Meet up groups can be brought into this to help get the work done. All Meet-up members should be either Precinct leaders or Volunteers. They do this by signing up with Ronpaul2008.com. Then they register as a volunteer if they do not want to be a precinct leader, so their contact info is in there and they can be called upon to help. With this and using they Meet up Groups, we can become one with the National Campaign. This in no way limits the average person from doing other things through other Groups that cannot work with the Campaign because of legal issues.

For instance your county could get together through Meet-ups and organize maybe doing lit drops in teams so no one is left trying to do it on their own. I suggest getting an Ink stamp to put your number or a local contact for that area so Paul voters can quickly get hooked in on the local level. Some areas will figure out what will work best for them depending on a variety of reasons.

Then as a county you can put your info together and have, for example call4paul make the calls to identify Ron Paul voters for about 2 cent a call. They would be calling people who have hopefully already received lit. Then they would return info they collect back to us to enter into the system. This would weed out bad numbers and identify Ron Paul voters in your area. Also making calls first saves you from going door to door to every house for canvasing. A phone bank in your area can be set up, or you can do it on your own. I believe, from talking to them, you can work with call4paul to help set it up in your area using their methods and technology. Again, this is all whatever works best for your local area. I’m just giving some examples of what can be done.

You then take that info and get those Ron Paul voters into the system and plug them into the structure where they want and need to be. Maybe as a precinct leader, volunteer or into meet ups. If nothing else we now have identified them as a Paul voter and can get them signs and some slim jims so they can pass it on to others. Once your a Paul voter you usually can't shut up so they will be getting the word out whether a volunteer or not.

Next you do the canvassing hitting those left over, adding info still not collected and win over more Ron Paul voters. Also your entering what info you collect on the non Ron Paul voters. Mitt votes, non-voters, Dems and so on. We want to know how everyone is going to vote. This gives us numbers of voters for each candidate in each precinct that can be checked when it's time to vote. Everyone just keeps working the lists on a county and precinct level. Just keep going over the list till you have covered everyone, if possible, in your area. This can be used to target areas that need more Paul votes or that have not been gotten to yet for whatever the reason.

Lets not duplicate what is already being done. This is our chance to be organized and make the most of our time, reaching Paul voters as fast as we can and building on that. Also it connects us to the National campaign. So if you feel Precinct Leader is not for your thing, you can still play a huge part by signing up as a volunteer. So the steps Everyone should take are:

1. Join the Campaign here: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/join
Everyone should join the campaign if you haven't yet.

2. Register here to volunteer for the Campaign. https://www.ronpaul2008.com/volunteer/registration/
Everyone should be registered as a volunteer if you haven't yet.

3. If you are ready for the next level or there is no Precinct Leader in your Precinct as of yet, Become a Ron Paul Precinct Leader. Doing this get you access to info for your precinct. https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/signup.php


We are all veteran members here... your preaching to the quire. And I know all about the main site, and I am a Precinct leader, area leader, four time meetup organizer, state organizer, and all of that other grand stuff.

What we are working on... well, what I was working on is diffrent and your totaly missing the point of the project.

Seriously.... who are you?...

You sound like a campaign staff guy.
 
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Never mind then.

The point of the project is to harness a market for grassroots ideas(like those of the blimp and the money bomb), help new people find their meetups, and to have something tangible with the grassroots after this election is over...

To create a intellectual market, and grassroots figurehead that will last into future campaigns...

How does the HQ do that?
 
The point of the project is to harness a market for grassroots ideas(like those of the blimp and the money bomb), help new people find their meetups, and to have something tangible with the grassroots after this election is over...

To create a intellectual market, and grassroots figurehead that will last into future campaigns...

How does the HQ do that?

I love your idea - we need this. Timing is everything!
 
I'm not too sure we have the same idea for a main grassroots site...

You want a rating system ala digg that allows users to "Dig" or "Bury" ideas, activities, etc. This code was designed for my site and is functioning properly. I am now going to need to port this system over to the Wiki-based site. I think you misunderstood what I had meant.

I am a mess this second since I just changed so many plans with my site by deciding to switch over to Wiki like 25 mins ago, lol, so I am not ready to open the project yet because it wouldn't be useful for anyone at this second. I will need a bit of time to organize things for everyone then I would be happy to let other members in to help on the project.

I was going to open a sourceforge.net project for it, but I guess we probably don't want it completely open source.
 
The point of the project is to harness a market for grassroots ideas(like those of the blimp and the money bomb), help new people find their meetups, and to have something tangible with the grassroots after this election is over...

To create a intellectual market, and grassroots figurehead that will last into future campaigns...

How does the HQ do that?

EXACTLY!

That is why I am not naming it directly after Ron Paul, even though we are going to actively be sponsoring the campaign. My vision was a site that will play as a home for the movement, an online meeting place if you will, which is why I feel "The Bonfire" is appropriate.

"Gather Around" :)
 
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but you can't herd cats. This started out as just an organized website project, but then I see mention of what people need to stop donating to and how they need to start doing this and that. You are dealing with an unusual mix of people here. The Huckabee grassroots can get away with what you are trying to do because they obey. They will do what they are told to just as the vast majority of Americans will. This candidate and forum attracts first and foremost the kind of people who won't obey. People who can and will govern themselves. It has been referred to as "herding cats". Yes, it does make it difficult to win the election using old school methods, however, let's keep in mind that the herd mentality is what got us where we are today as a nation.

I'm not telling you to stop, only telling you what you are up against. I've seen this occur many times before and it usually ends the same. I wish you luck, we let the free market decide here and if I am wrong, hopefully this will win Dr. Paul the election. If I am right, the project will die.
 
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but you can't herd cats. This started out as just an organized website project, but then I see mention of what people need to stop donating to and how they need to start doing this and that. You are dealing with an unusual mix of people here. The Huckabee grassroots can get away with what you are trying to do because they obey. They will do what they are told to just as the vast majority of Americans will. This candidate and forum attracts first and foremost the kind of people who won't obey. People who can and will govern themselves. It has been referred to as "herding cats". Yes, it does make it difficult to win the election using old school methods, however, let's keep in mind that the herd mentality is what got us where we are today as a nation.

I'm not telling you to stop, only telling you what you are up against. I've seen this occur many times before and it usually ends the same. I wish you luck, we let the free market decide here and if I am wrong, hopefully this will win Dr. Paul the election. If I am right, the project will die.


I have no intent to herd cats... I'm a capitalist

The campaign herds cats more than anyone... I don't work that way. (I've also said nothing about donations whatsoever)
 
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EXACTLY!

That is why I am not naming it directly after Ron Paul, even though we are going to actively be sponsoring the campaign. My vision was a site that will play as a home for the movement, an online meeting place if you will, which is why I feel "The Bonfire" is appropriate.

"Gather Around" :)

I'm just being honest but, im not too sure about the bonfire thing... I don't have a better idea for a name... im just being a critic.
 
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but you can't herd cats. This started out as just an organized website project, but then I see mention of what people need to stop donating to and how they need to start doing this and that. You are dealing with an unusual mix of people here. The Huckabee grassroots can get away with what you are trying to do because they obey. They will do what they are told to just as the vast majority of Americans will. This candidate and forum attracts first and foremost the kind of people who won't obey. People who can and will govern themselves. It has been referred to as "herding cats". Yes, it does make it difficult to win the election using old school methods, however, let's keep in mind that the herd mentality is what got us where we are today as a nation.

I'm not telling you to stop, only telling you what you are up against. I've seen this occur many times before and it usually ends the same. I wish you luck, we let the free market decide here and if I am wrong, hopefully this will win Dr. Paul the election. If I am right, the project will die.

I respect your opinion greatly, but I think that this project has a far greater individuality element to it then you are giving it credit for. This movement is about one goal: freedom, and we are all friends to each other in this quest. This site is more a place to ask for backup from your fellow brothers and sisters of freedom in perusing your individual ideas.

Good ideas will last, bad ones will fail, just as we have already seen with this grassroots movement anyways. Look at the money bombs, they were successful and I did not hear anyone say "NO YOU WONT TELL MEEE WHEN TO DONATE!!!11oneone!!". Most were willing to help out their fellow patrons.

This helping of one another towards the greater goal is what will make this project work, everyone has been saying that we need more organization for a long time. Now we are getting a glimpse of it.

It is far more powerful then just money bombs, think of being able to arrange a mass-canvassing all over the United States at EXACTLY the same time with hundreds of thousands of people covering 90% of the most populated areas, with people taking the exact areas that they want to, all shown in real time on a google maps application.

That's what I call powerful and useful. I doubt such a tool will ever just die off.

(now I'll step down from the soap box)

edit: BTW, I'm just ranting, no flame intended in any way.
 
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I'm just being honest but, im not too sure about the bonfire thing... I don't have a better idea for a name... im just being a critic.

No problem with that, I like it because I was thinking of all the little things that will be tied into the theme of the site. Also it is brandable and makes one think of a casual meeting place, well, like a bonfire. If you come up with another idea feel free to shoot.
 
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The Idea Exchange works for me

It would be cool if wasn't IMPOSSIBLE in every way, shape, and form to get any domain name that resembles that name.

Its foolish to use anything that isn't a .com, has hyphens in it, or a lot of letters and numbers.

IMO anything that has "freedom" or anything of that nature will sound far too "left-wing-activist-ish" and will *hurt the potential user base.




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It would be cool if wasn't IMPOSSIBLE in every way, shape, and form to get any domain name that resembles that name.

Its foolish to use anything that isn't a .com, has hyphens in it, or a lot of letters and numbers.

IMO anything that has "freedom" or anything of that nature will sound far too "left-wing-activist-ish" and will the potential user base.

I like http://TheLibertyTree.com/ some RP supporter has it... im sure we could convince him to give it up.

It is neutral, freedom oriented, and catchy!

It would tie in to the renaming of this fourm on down the line... (libertyforest)
 
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I don't know, I think we should concentrate on getting the site up, names can be changed very easily. We should keep coming up with ideas and eventually let the community vote on it.
 
I don't know, I think we should concentrate on getting the site up, names can be changed very easily. We should keep coming up with ideas and eventually let the community vote on it.

I just saw something longterm with TheLibertyTree... I think I might get a tattoo if it was good... lol...

Not a bad domain name there, wonder if he'd give it up. I feel like we would need to use a more earthy color scheme with that domain though lol. I don't feel like the name conveys the idea of "meeting up" though but it sounds pleasant.

Whats wrong with earthy? And I have ideas on ways to balance it so it doesn't have earthy! But more patriotic...

I'm thinking, Tree stamp on the side, with green/black interface, and blueish patriotic background


Libertytree.org is also open...
 
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