I'm Taking Charge. Ideas for the New Site

[defcreative]

Good, but have you seen the huck's user interface... I want that! It is top noch http://www.hucksarmy.com/


and can you show a picture of what your working with... I'm good in marketing and design and would love to help out. Can you take constructive criticism?

Their site looks okay, I'm sure I will do better. I have been working with graphics design, particularly web design for about 8 years. Unfortunately for you, I've decided to handle graphics design last this time around (since I usually design the GUI first, then program later). This project is pretty programming intensive since I need a lot of custom applications, so I did it programming first I need to go back and skin it.

Since you asked so kindly, I may be able to show you a demo tomorrow with some screenshots of the design, but I cannot pull up anything right now for you.

Constructive criticism is always welcome.

 

[LandonCook]

It looks as though great minds think alike huh?

I took a look at TikiWiki right now and it is interesting as well, but I'm not so sure it is worth using that versus my original plan which was to pretty much integrate separate components (blog, vbulletin, RSS Ron Paul Forums ticker, and of course the custom News article / Activity planning code based around google map's API with article/activity rating ala Digg.

Yeah, i've really been pushing the Projects rating system... it will give some sanity to all the 1000s of creative ideas that are pushed out by this forum.

But as a designer, the layout i was designing make sure to focus on a very (KISS) sort of layout with many subsections. Cluttered pages turn me off quicker than anything.

 

[defcreative]

that sounds real cool. i don't want to sound like i need a room with tiki, but it has a map server and I don't think it would be hard to link the other features to it. Digg, rss, blogs, forums... seriously everything including member profiles i think would be easy.

it really depends on how far along you are

I just saw that module you're talking about.

Meh. Hmm.

I am going to look at it a little deeper, maybe I'll salvage the code I have done and adopt a temporary Wiki-based system that is a functional "beta V0.1" and keep updating it while the grassroots gets use out of it.

My program will look a lot cleaner, as it already does even unskinned, but I think that we are facing a serious time constraint here and it may be wise to adopt the currently available code from Wiki.

I'm going to download the source and see what I would be working with.

I'll get back to you guys.

 

[LandonCook]

Their site looks okay, I'm sure I will do better. I have been working with graphics design, particularly web design for about 8 years. Unfortunately for you, I've decided to handle graphics design last this time around (since I usually design the GUI first, then program later). This project is pretty programming intensive since I need a lot of custom applications, so I did it programming first I need to go back and skin it.

Since you asked so kindly, I may be able to show you a demo tomorrow with some screenshots of the design, but I cannot pull up anything right now for you.

Constructive criticism is always welcome.

Great! Sounds like a plan... I feel bad that you've been taking on alot of work by yourself... I wasn't about to do graphics and programing both... So far I have dreicher for Software development / Web Design / Graphic Design, and gyrmnix for software development / Server space

I just saw that module you're talking about.

Meh. Hmm.

I am going to look at it a little deeper, maybe I'll salvage the code I have done and adopt a temporary Wiki-based system that is a functional "beta V0.1" and keep updating it while the grassroots gets use out of it.

My program will look a lot cleaner, as it already does even unskinned, but I think that we are facing a serious time constraint here and it may be wise to adopt the currently available code from Wiki.

I'm going to download the source and see what I would be working with.

I'll get back to you guys.

I loved it! I love its potential uses as well.

 

[defcreative]

Yeah, i've really been pushing the Projects rating system... it will give some sanity to all the 1000s of creative ideas that are pushed out by this forum.

But as a designer, the layout i was designing make sure to focus on a very (KISS) sort of layout with many subsections. Cluttered pages turn me off quicker than anything.

Yep, mine was a very clean web 2.0 style design with rich red/maroon/black/white/blue scheme.

 

[defcreative]

I feel bad that you've been taking on alot of work by yourself.

No need to feel bad bud, since you do this type of stuff I'm sure you know about the mornings working until dawn with no sleep for 30+ hours.

Good for me though that I haven't been pushed to that point, yet. I may make that sacrifice to get the project up on time.

 

[LandonCook]

Yep, mine was a very clean web 2.0 style design with rich red/maroon/black/white/blue scheme.

Lovely! What about the whole live support idea...

 

[LandonCook]

Yep, mine was a very clean web 2.0 style design with rich red/maroon/black/white/blue scheme.

Lovely! What about the whole live support idea... or any of the others expressed...

My biggest worry with the project was what i've been getting from emails.... alot of people want alot of things on that main page. I don't do that, simple layouts are successful layouts.

 

[Derek Johnson]

We need a daily money bomb.

Or maybe hourly money bombs everyday.

Or maybe we need to get off the computer and go door to door, nursing home to nursing home, university to university.

 

[defcreative]

Lovely! What about the whole live support idea... or any of the others expressed...

I like the ideas, I think they can be done. To be totally honest I'm not sure what you mean by "Live Support". Are you talking about a live support system for users to ask questions to administrators using a sort of AJAX or Java Applet system?

 

[defcreative]

We need a daily money bomb.

Or maybe hourly money bombs everyday.

Or maybe we need to get off the computer and go door to door, nursing home to nursing home, university to university.

I like the idea on the "Bam! How we can raise 23 million dollars" page, we could tie it into this site.

 

[defcreative]

I'm trying to look over the code while writing this, but do you know by any chance if RonPaulForums.com has a RSS feed?

 

[Rhys]

I'm trying to look over the code while writing this, but do you know by any chance if RonPaulForums.com has a RSS feed?

I have a vbuliten site. it can accept rss and it can export xml for anything

 

[LandonCook]

I like the idea on the "Bam! How we can raise 23 million dollars" page, we could tie it into this site.

So no market for it? Has to be set as a Project and put on the rating market. (thats the brilliance of the project)

I'm trying to look over the code while writing this, but do you know by any chance if RonPaulForums.com has a RSS feed?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=35873

 

[Edu]

Do not start a ice cream store if you don't want to scoop ice cream. Meaning, if you can't program a web site like that, don't start one. You are going to run into times where you need to do some fixing yourself.

Not to say you can't help some technical guy direct himself towards the proper "marketing" of the site, but not to run it.

And that's my 2 cents.

Oh, and the digg API is available for download (I think).

 

[defcreative]

So no market for it? Has to be set as a Project and put on the rating market. (thats the brilliance of the project)



http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=35873

Oh no, I totally agree about the free market principles of the site (haha, why not adopt RP's principles on our own grassroots site huh )

Good stuff about the RSS feed, because I was torn about whether or not to create a separate forum or to use ronpaulforums, but since we have a RSS feed we can show the latest posts on the site and tie the site into the current forums without "reinventing the wheel" so to speak.

I'm looking over wiki's code and its good (thank god cause fixing crappy code is the worst thing ever). So I'm going to officially abandon the idea of a completely custom coded site and pick up development on my local webserver and see what I can pump out by tomorrow.

Frankly right now I'm really tired and had a long day so I'm going to get some rest because I'll be having a lot of work to handle tomorrow.

 

[defcreative]

Do not start a ice cream store if you don't want to scoop ice cream. Meaning, if you can't program a web site like that, don't start one. You are going to run into times where you need to do some fixing yourself.

Not to say you can't help some technical guy direct himself towards the proper "marketing" of the site, but not to run it.

And that's my 2 cents.

Oh, and the digg API is available for download (I think).

You wouldn't want an external API for digg, that would only to be submitting stories to digg. Its alright though, that code is already completely done, so porting it over shouldn't be too hard.

 

[LandonCook]

Do not start a ice cream store if you don't want to scoop ice cream. Meaning, if you can't program a web site like that, don't start one. You are going to run into times where you need to do some fixing yourself.

Not to say you can't help some technical guy direct himself towards the proper "marketing" of the site, but not to run it.

And that's my 2 cents.

Oh, and the digg API is available for download (I think).

I don't know if your talking about me or def's project...
Who says everyone working toward this goal can't or won't though?

I'm just good at marketing, organizing, and making money...

You wouldn't want an external API for digg, that would only to be submitting stories to digg. Its alright though, that code is already completely done, so porting it over shouldn't be too hard.

I'm not too sure we have the same idea for a main grassroots site...

 

[sharpsteve2003]

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[LandonCook]

Oh no, I totally agree about the free market principles of the site (haha, why not adopt RP's principles on our own grassroots site huh )

Good stuff about the RSS feed, because I was torn about whether or not to create a separate forum or to use ronpaulforums, but since we have a RSS feed we can show the latest posts on the site and tie the site into the current forums without "reinventing the wheel" so to speak.

I'm looking over wiki's code and its good (thank god cause fixing crappy code is the worst thing ever). So I'm going to officially abandon the idea of a completely custom coded site and pick up development on my local webserver and see what I can pump out by tomorrow.

Frankly right now I'm really tired and had a long day so I'm going to get some rest because I'll be having a lot of work to handle tomorrow.

That’s why I was going to have multiple programmers working on this...
If you really want to get as much custom in as possable, and I know I do... maybe you would like to open up some design and code for a bigger project team?