I'm Really, Really Scared...

Patriot123

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As the title shows, I'm really, really, scared for this countries future. I'm fourteen, a huge Ron Paul supporter, I've done my homework, know everything there is to know. I've been 'awake,' per say, since I was twelve or thirteen. But today... Let's say I rather just lost it.

How could we have let our country get like this? HOW? Our founders, ancestors and fellow revolutionaries way back when gave their lives fighing exactly what we're up against today. And as terrifying as it may sound; and I'm not encouraging this in any way, I'm sort of getting the sense that the only way to re-take this country is through a 1776 revolution, and I'm scared. I mean, I'd love to stay optimistic as possible about RP, but what if we lose? What then? We'll be chipped like dogs, have our rights taken away from us, turn socialist? Even war? Nuclear war, G-d forbid. If we go ahead and attack Iran, it'll be the end of the world. Russia will attack the US in response, which will in effect get the UK to take action, which would get China involved, etcetera. It would be WWIII beyond. And I'm scared. I just don't... Want to see our country fall like this.

I mean, the government doesn't even regard the law as 'applicable to them. We the people can file suit, do whatever, and they'll just laugh. The government is above the law. We are far below it. So below it, that it's like France when they had a monarchy. Only we're the peasants, and the nobleman are the big corporations and ruling class of America. I mean, we have an income tax which is completely iligal, we have just lost our freedom of speech online as Bush just signed into law a bill that would have the NSA and AT&T police the internet, we have lost our gun rights basically, we have lost our right to petition the government, we have lost habeus corpus, we have lost the right to privacy with the Real ID Act and other such things, we have lost the right to not be killed, we have lost the right to pursue happiness, we have lost the right to keep our own money as expressed in the constitution, we have lost the ability to express ourselves freely, we have lost the right to make choices for ourselves, I mean... I could just go on and on. And 90% of the nation doesn't even care.

I mean, sorry if I sort of sound a bit crazy here, but really. I'm scared. I'm just really scared. I feel as if there simply is just no hope for not just our country, but the world now. Chances are that if the US collapses, the entire world collapses, as there is no way the US would just collapse without taking the world under with it. I'm just really... Scared. For the future. We have lost everything. Everything. Just everything that our ancestors gave their lives for... And ignorant Americans could care less to the point where they would happily walk all over the constitution :/
 
Well, I am 44 years old and your first instinct is going to be to blame my generation.

In my defense, and hopefully for your enlightenment, when I was your age I felt the same way about the adults then. I was like how could they ahve screwed up such a good thing?

Suffice it to say it has been a long time getting this way and even with victories we are not going to fix things over night.

But we will fix things.
 
It just doesn't seem likely, though... I mean, again. The government simply put believes that they are above the law. How can you fight an empire of a government that thinks that way? With corruption this high? You just can't... And it isn't even necessarily the past generations fault. It's our fault, as the people, for not maintaining what our founders gave us. Thomas Jefferson once said, "We have given you a democracy. Now let's see if you can keep it." He couldn't have been more on target.
 
As the title shows, I'm really, really, scared for this countries future. I'm fourteen, a huge Ron Paul supporter, I've done my homework, know everything there is to know. I've been 'awake,' per say, since I was twelve or thirteen. But today... Let's say I rather just lost it.

How could we have let our country get like this? HOW? Our founders, ancestors and fellow revolutionaries way back when gave their lives fighing exactly what we're up against today. And as terrifying as it may sound; and I'm not encouraging this in any way, I'm sort of getting the sense that the only way to re-take this country is through a 1776 revolution, and I'm scared. I mean, I'd love to stay optimistic as possible about RP, but what if we lose? What then? We'll be chipped like dogs, have our rights taken away from us, turn socialist? Even war? Nuclear war, G-d forbid. If we go ahead and attack Iran, it'll be the end of the world. Russia will attack the US in response, which will in effect get the UK to take action, which would get China involved, etcetera. It would be WWIII beyond. And I'm scared. I just don't... Want to see our country fall like this.

I mean, the government doesn't even regard the law as 'applicable to them. We the people can file suit, do whatever, and they'll just laugh. The government is above the law. We are far below it. So below it, that it's like France when they had a monarchy. Only we're the peasants, and the nobleman are the big corporations and ruling class of America. I mean, we have an income tax which is completely iligal, we have just lost our freedom of speech online as Bush just signed into law a bill that would have the NSA and AT&T police the internet, we have lost our gun rights basically, we have lost our right to petition the government, we have lost habeus corpus, we have lost the right to privacy with the Real ID Act and other such things, we have lost the right to not be killed, we have lost the right to pursue happiness, we have lost the right to keep our own money as expressed in the constitution, we have lost the ability to express ourselves freely, we have lost the right to make choices for ourselves, I mean... I could just go on and on. And 90% of the nation doesn't even care.

I mean, sorry if I sort of sound a bit crazy here, but really. I'm scared. I'm just really scared. I feel as if there simply is just no hope for not just our country, but the world now. Chances are that if the US collapses, the entire world collapses, as there is no way the US would just collapse without taking the world under with it. I'm just really... Scared. For the future. We have lost everything. Everything. Just everything that our ancestors gave their lives for... And ignorant Americans could care less to the point where they would happily walk all over the constitution :/

All I can say is, learn to defend yourself.
 
Patriot. You are not even my kid, and I am proud of you as much as a father can be proud of a son or daughter..

I wish other kids your age would educate themselves like you have done.. You are a testament of all that is good in America (what is left of it)..

I salute you kid.. But really, you are smarter than most adults,, Bravo patriot! Bravo !

Keep fighting.
 
it may be too late but a few will escape on one or two space shuttles

Um... Thanks. That, er... Helps :rolleyes: Assuming you were simply being sarcastic, I doubt any of us could even escape such a disaster.


Patriot. You are not even my kid, and I am proud of you as much as a father can be proud of a son or daughter..

I wish other kids your age would educate themselves like you have done.. You are a testament of all that is good in America (what is left of it)..

I salute you kid.. But really, you are smarter than most adults,, Bravo patriot! Bravo !
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Thank you :) It's sort of funny, though. Out of everyone in my entire district, I'm essentially one of the only 'awake' ones there are that actually isn't 'apathetic.' And it's upsetting. Because you just want to make changes, but if, say, you were to get into a debate with a teacher, or a fellow student in class, you would be made up to be some crazy, well... Excuse my language, but idiot. People are quick to judge without doing their homework. And, I mean, wherever I go, I tell people about Dr. Paul. I tell people what's going on in our country. And I always get these looks like, "your crazy." And then there's the actual patriots who I've bumped into around town. And they always look at me straight in the eye, and tell me what any American patriot would tell you.
 
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You're old enough to get your own US passport without parental consent. Get one and keep it up-to-date.
 
Um... Thanks. That, er... Helps :rolleyes: Assuming you were simply being sarcastic, I doubt any of us could even escape such a disaster.



Thank you :) It's sort of funny, though. Out of everyone in my entire district, I'm essentially one of the only 'awake' ones there are that actually isn't 'apathetic.' And it's upsetting. Because you just want to make changes, but if, say, you were to get into a debate with a teacher, or a fellow student in class, you would be made up to be some crazy, well... Excuse my language, but idiot. People are quick to judge without doing their homework. And, I mean, wherever I go, I tell people about Dr. Paul. I tell people what's going on in our country. And I always get these looks like, "your crazy." And then there's the actual patriots who I've bumped into around town. And they always look at me straight in the eye, and tell me what any American patriot would tell you.

Don't let that discourage you kid.. And here's why--

Plato said it best when he said--

"Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught falsehoods in school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool" -- Plato

And also a quote by Dresden James certainly is appropriate-

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.---Dresden James

Keep your chin up kid.. Remember that the true patriots in American history were first considered lunatics when they wanted changes to be made.. After many years later when those changes were implemented, they were looked upon as "patriots", and not lunatics anymore.. The moral of the story is, this is a battle you will have to fight for many years.. Take solace in knowing that this has happened before, and that you are a bright light for implementing that change in the future..
 
Um... Thanks. That, er... Helps :rolleyes: Assuming you were simply being sarcastic, I doubt any of us could even escape such a disaster.



Thank you :) It's sort of funny, though. Out of everyone in my entire district, I'm essentially one of the only 'awake' ones there are that actually isn't 'apathetic.' And it's upsetting. Because you just want to make changes, but if, say, you were to get into a debate with a teacher, or a fellow student in class, you would be made up to be some crazy, well... Excuse my language, but idiot. People are quick to judge without doing their homework. And, I mean, wherever I go, I tell people about Dr. Paul. I tell people what's going on in our country. And I always get these looks like, "your crazy." And then there's the actual patriots who I've bumped into around town. And they always look at me straight in the eye, and tell me what any American patriot would tell you.

Don't let that discourage you kid.. And here's why--

Plato said it best when he said--

"Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught falsehoods in school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool" -- Plato

And also a quote by Dresden James certainly is appropriate-

"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."---Dresden James

Keep your chin up young patriot.. Remember that the true patriots in American history were first considered lunatics when they wanted changes to be made.. After many years later when those changes were implemented, they were looked upon as "patriots", and not lunatics anymore.. The moral of the story is, this is a battle you will have to fight for many years.. Take solace in knowing that this has happened before, and that you are a bright light for implementing that change in the future.. Fascism was beaten many times through the course of history.. We are just having our battle now.. And we will win in the end.

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The only fear I have, though, is that the American people won't wake up... I mean, 90% of the entire nation doesn't even know what's going on. I don't even watch the news anymore, and I haven't for at least two years straight. But when I actually do, what I see is terrifying in the sense that this is actually being fed to the American people. Just today, I heard this:

"Coming up, why terrorism is a threat and why you should be scared. Next is Obama and Clinton with some tough words for each other, and coming up later <something about celebrities and such>."

I can see right through it. And I know a lot of others can. But for the ones that can't, this is what they're fed every day. And they believe every word of it. Terrorism, who you should vote for, and something to keep them busy. For once in history, I have a fear that this time around, what's happening can't be stopped. I want to wake up one day, and actually be able to say, "I'm proud as hell to be an American." But I can't. Because I know I'd only be fooling myself.
 
Calm down, things are going to be alright. It appears at this point that Ron Paul will not be President. He will still be in the Congress most likely and hopefully joined by others like him. Obama, like Paul, is for ending the Iraq war and hopefully he's serious about that and he is willing to talk to leaders who the Bush Administration uses for fear mongering. Hillary is not going to start a world war. McCain is a little crazy, but I don't think he'll be able to win defending Bush and the war. The best thing that could occur at this point is a split executive and legislative branch- Dem Pres, Rep. Congress or vice versa. But don't be worried about attacking Iran. The NIE basically toned down the war propoganda on that. Nobody wants to be in a world war. We have a lot of allies around the world and the U.S. is still the strongest country in the world.
 
I feel for you Patriot. It's going to be your generation that inherits the mess that we're in and the dumbing down of Americans just continues.

I'm almost 50 and it's taken me about 10-15 years to get to that place where I understand what's going on and connect the dots. All I can say is keep at spreading the message of liberty and the constitution. Most people are slow, but if you stick to your guns, the smarter ones will come around. It takes time and the truth will always be on your side.
 
Read your bible, save your silver and always always protect your credibility. That way when you run for office you won't have any skeletons to be blackmailed with.

Stay cool. That is not just a platitude I mean it. Stay cool and don't associate with losers. Better to be alone than have fools for friends no matter how well intended they may be.
 
basic poly sci says

it takes 5% of a population for revolution ... that's 15,000,000 ... a long way to go.
 
I'm 31 and I'm scared as hell. I think everyone of us on here are scared. Now to harness and embrase that fear, and aim it in the direction of the enemy. Emotional drive is what wins wars (and a few guns :p). When you believe, and see a vision, and commit to that vision, and invest emotion into that vision, the vision will unfold.

We are in that process. The Legislative branch will have the beginings of an appropriate check against the executive branch within the coming years. We do this by electing and showing up to congressional and senate seat elections. We vote in constitutional abiding Americans to any elected state positions. The beauty of Ron Paul, is his message is very well heard by younger people, most of which are just begining families. Generations will grow up with this knowledge, and we will not let it ever stop America again. We need to awaken more of the country, but may only be able to do that through a larger presence in politics.

So in this order:
*Get Ron Paul through this election term
*Vote in constitutionalists to our government, people with balls (this will be very easy to do) if we keep our same grass-roots structure
*Educate the population
*Apologize to the world once we regain our government
 
Patriot123, find others in the area where you live who are awake. Learn to grow food, if you live in an area where you can put out a garden. I say this to all people, as if this economy does tank, most of us are dependent on someone else for our food. By learning to grow your own food, you will strengthen your body as well, as most of the food in the grocery is full of chemicals, pesticides, hormones and antibiotics, msg, aspartame, or is just processed and has no real value.

Do not worry, we are winning this fight. It is just getting started. Everyday I feel like you in one respect or another, and I am sickened by our fellow Americans lack of care and lack of knowledge. I am also disgusted that so many people would just like to kill more people without even thinking about this, like it is a right for us as Americans? So, be proud you are awake and are alive in this time. Don't be afraid - many of us who are here have an important purpose to fulfill. Don't hesitate to PM any of us if you need help, but be very careful since you are very young, and do not meet with people from this forum or others from the internet alone.
 
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