I'm a Romney Supporter and I Have a Message for All of You

You might be right, but I was having this discussion at Committedtoromney with some Ron Paul supporters and asked them how they knew Mitt was for sure because I didn't know for sure. They just posted a link to the CFR website of a profile of Mitt on the site and said that was proof, so I looked at the site and Ron Paul has a profile on the site as well, and I'm pretty sure Ron Paul isn't a member. Is there a news article somewhere or something that indicates that Mitt actually is a CFR member?

Mitt wouldn't get an article published in the CFR rag "Foreign Affairs" without a little help from his friends: http://www.foreignaffairs.org/articles/62638/mitt-romney/rising-to-a-new-generation-of-global-challenges. Mitt believes in globalism. Yes, he's got a great politician smile but no substance other then the CFR controlled media to prop him up. And the hope of being in on the final kill of the US and her Constitution so he can go down in the annuals of NWO history.
 
{Romney'll} never talk of abolishing the Fed....unless the grassroots takes back the party......then we'll hear it ad nauseam

While I'm not sure if I agree that Romney will never talk about abolishing the Fed, I definitely agree that the grassroots needs to take back the party. I admire Ron Paul so much more for trying to reform the Republican Party as opposed to splintering it and creating/strengthening a 3rd Party. However, if McCain had won or if we get another candidate like McCain in 2012, it might be too late to save the Republican Party and a 3rd Party might be our best course of action for the future. I'd much rather reform the Republican Party though, because I want to take back our country NOW.

he greater question is, "Why nominate Romney when Paul is much more of a staunch conservative?" Ron has Mitt beat in every area in conservatism, so why should "conservatives" compromise with a lesser man in Mitt? It is not like they are equals and we are trying to choose based on personality and electability.

I honestly believe Ron Paul is looking for someone to take the torch from him to continue to C4L. I don't think Ron Paul wants to run again, and it's understandable considering the way he gets treated and his age (although him and Romney both are in outstanding shape for their ages probably because of their lifestyles).
 
You want the party back

While I'm not sure if I agree that Romney will never talk about abolishing the Fed, I definitely agree that the grassroots needs to take back the party. I admire Ron Paul so much more for trying to reform the Republican Party as opposed to splintering it and creating/strengthening a 3rd Party. However, if McCain had won or if we get another candidate like McCain in 2012, it might be too late to save the Republican Party and a 3rd Party might be our best course of action for the future. I'd much rather reform the Republican Party though, because I want to take back our country NOW.



I honestly believe Ron Paul is looking for someone to take the torch from him to continue to C4L. I don't think Ron Paul wants to run again, and it's understandable considering the way he gets treated and his age (although him and Romney both are in outstanding shape for their ages probably because of their lifestyles).

ax Mitt. He is not a Republican, he is a corporate fascist and would take the same bailout course Bush and Obama took. He is the business roundtable, chamber of commerce poster boy we can do without.
 
Dan, no offense, but how anyone can see and hear Romney and believe anything he says is beyond me. The guy is a CREEP.

If Mitt Romney ran on Ron Paul's exact platform I still wouldn't vote for him. The only conviction Mitt has is getting elected.
 
A Romney supporter could say:
No offense, but how anyone can see and hear Paul and believe anything he says is beyond me. The guy is a CREEP.

If Ron Paul ran on Mitt Romney's exact platform I still wouldn't vote for him. The guy is a fringe loony. Yuck!

The Romney supporter could also say that Ron Paul is being unrealistic and that Romney is being more honest by recognizing the need to compromise when working within a democratic republic.
 
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The Romney supporter could also say that Ron Paul is being unrealistic and that Romney is being more honest by recognizing the need to compromise when working within a democratic republic.

True. But it's a different world from last spring, and I do believe more people every day are seeing not ony the true value of principle, but the complete lack thereof in D.C. That gives our man an advantage he didn't enjoy last spring.
 
A Romney supporter could say:


The Romney supporter could also say that Ron Paul is being unrealistic and that Romney is being more honest by recognizing the need to compromise when working within a democratic republic.

That is not true. You can't compromise the constitution, or the bill of rights. All one would have to do is look at policies and voting records. Look at who associates with who etc...

The same thing can't be said because the basis is completely different from which the original springs.
 
True. But it's a different world from last spring, and I do believe more people every day are seeing not ony the true value of principle, but the complete lack thereof in D.C. That gives our man an advantage he didn't enjoy last spring.

The question is, which sorts of principle? Our previous president maintained strong, unwavering principles on the use of centralized power to combat radical extremism and firmly believed in the life-saving value of preemptive warfare. Why is an uncompromising George Bush less than an uncompromising Ron Paul?
 
That is not true. You can't compromise the constitution, or the bill of rights.

Hi,

If one cannot compromise on the Constitution, then why is there a debate between "originalist" constitutionalists and, "living document" constitutionalists?

Sincerely,
Omphfullas Zamboni
 
The question is, which sorts of principle? Our previous president maintained strong, unwavering principles on the use of centralized power to combat radical extremism and firmly believed in the life-saving value of preemptive warfare. Why is an uncompromising George Bush less than an uncompromising Ron Paul?

Because Bush was wrong and people knew it, hence his terrible approval ratings. Obama is continuing the same wrong policies and people are starting to see that too. His approval numbers are starting to fall. Principles alone isn't the issue. You can have some pretty crappy principles!
 
Because Bush was wrong and people knew it, hence his terrible approval ratings. Obama is continuing the same wrong policies and people are starting to see that too. His approval numbers are starting to fall. Principles alone isn't the issue. You can have some pretty crappy principles!

There is truth to that. In a contest of ideologies, I wonder if military curtailment and the marketplace witticism that the freedom to succeed means the freedom to fail will ever have the floor, amongst the general populace...
 
That is not true. You can't compromise the constitution, or the bill of rights. All one would have to do is look at policies and voting records.

Someone may have already answered this, but can someone refresh my memory as to how Romney has ever compromised the Constitution or the Bill of Rights?
 
Someone may have already answered this, but can someone refresh my memory as to how Romney has ever compromised the Constitution or the Bill of Rights?

Certainly with his background serving in state government it is harder to violate but I am sure someone will chime in soon.

None-the-less, it was clear that his presidential campaign platform had many violations, a very simple and very bad one is the idea of a national ID card.

I'll leave it at this- and let others post more.
 
During the primaries I had the fortune of having a Ron Paul for President booth at a local gun show in Mitt's home state of MI. We had a group of all volunteers. The only other candidate that had another booth there was Mitt Romney's campaign. We went over and had a very nice conversation with the two college age kids attending the booth. At the end of our conversation I asked one of the young men if they were being paid or volunteering their time to Mitt's Campaign. They just smirked and told us they could not divulge that information, but the look on their faces gave me the answer I already knew.
 
During the primaries I had the fortune of having a Ron Paul for President booth at a local gun show in Mitt's home state of MI. We had a group of all volunteers. The only other candidate that had another booth there was Mitt Romney's campaign. We went over and had a very nice conversation with the two college age kids attending the booth. At the end of our conversation I asked one of the young men if they were being paid or volunteering their time to Mitt's Campaign. They just smirked and told us they could not divulge that information, but the look on their faces gave me the answer I already knew.

That was pretty much the case at the Iowa Straw Poll. Some of the Mitt people did come over to the Ron Paul area and pick up some literature however.
 
10th Amendment and separation of powers has been destroyed. we have a unitary executive. the states are puppets. we are rome ans we are devolving into an empire, republican ideals and liberty are no longer valued. romney won't change this, we will
 
Someone may have already answered this, but can someone refresh my memory as to how Romney has ever compromised the Constitution or the Bill of Rights?

He Supports PATRIOT Act - Breaks 1st amendment and 4th amendment

He Supported the Bush Bailout - Breaks General Welfare Clause

He Supported Iraq War - No Declaration of War

He Supports the Federal Reserve - Only gold and silver can be money

You want me to go on?
 
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Hello everyone,

I have been coming to this site on and off with different login names for a couple years now. I am a huge political junkie and I try to stay informed about what all of the potential candidate's supporters are doing. That said, I am an avid Romney supporter and certainly one of the most influential Romney grassroots supporters.

I have a couple of messages for all of you in regards to a few things.

1. In regards to the NPR March Madness poll, I want to congratulate all of you on winning the battle in such a convincing manner. We knew we couldn't beat all of you in a wide-open war, so we lulled you to sleep and gambled as to when the poll would end. If it had ended at midnight on the 29th, we would've won, but alas our gamble didn't pay off and you all took the day. We do have more support than you give us credit for, and though my various accounts on Facebook, I was able to send out thousands of messages about the poll.

2. As far as who started the cheating, my fellow Romney supporters and I were convinced that ya'll started the botting first, and I guess we'll never know, but there was a time during the early part of the poll where Romney had been winning legitimately and then Ron Paul shot up very fast. Speaking for myself, I never even knew how to spam polls (but I was always curious), and I came on this forum to see if I could somehow learn how it is done. I found a few posts telling different ways to do it and I couldn't help but try to see if it really worked since I had been wondering for years. I admit I got a bit carried away with it, and I apologize for that.

3. There are no hard feelings about the poll itself since both sides thought they were retaliating to cheating and ultimately, you all won. Also, we admire your grassroots machine and we wish we had even half of the organization as you. I tried to put together a mass fundraising day last year and was able to raise a grand total of just over $100,000 but that is dwarfed in comparison to your huge money bombs. My major problem is that I don't know how to harvest E-Mails and I'm not very good at making websites or YouTube videos.

4. There are a few common attacks that Ron Paulites make about Mitt Romney that I want to address. First, as one of the largest Mitt Romney grassroots supporters on the net, I don't like it when people claim that I or any of my fellow supporters are being paid to support Mitt. I definitely don't get a dime for any of the countless hours of work I do for Mitt. Next, I was at CPAC this year and there was nothing shady whatsoever with the straw poll. There were no "buses of mormons" coming from Utah for the vote or anything else like that. Also, Mitt's speech was the mist highly attended and it was very apparent he had the most support of anyone on the ballot there (I went to Ron Paul's campaign for liberty event as well). Also, during one of the debates, a lot was made about Romney having an earpiece and getting answers to questions that way. That could not be true because if a microphone was able to pick up the audio coming from an earpiece, Mitt Romney's eardrum would have exploded so it was have come from one of the moderators or candidates on stage. Finally, I am not Mormon or a neo-con. Most supporters of Mitt that I know are neither. We don't view Mitt as anything near to McCain when it comes to wanting to fight wars. I don't believe Mitt would've sent us to war with Iraq if he had been president instead of Bush, but I obviously have no proof for that.

5. I also like a lot of Ron Paul's ideas, but when I was looking for a candidate during the spring of 2007, I heard Ron Paul say he didn't plan on winning and wasn't really even trying to. I also could see from the type of campaign Huckabee was running that he wasn't putting together the appropriate groundwork to signify how serious he was. Therefore, I liked having them in the debates, but I couldn't throw my support behind them because I view there as being a huge difference between a candidate like Mitt Romney and a Obama. I know a lot of you do not agree, but if Mitt can do for the entire country what he did in Mass. we will all be in such better shape than we are. Graduating valedictorian of his class at Harvard is insane, and the amount of money he was able to make by creating his own company at Bain is astounding. Mitt wasn't able to do that because of his daddy or anything either. Mitt is a self-made man to be sure which is another ridiculous charge made against Mitt.

6. Finally, I hope you all can agree that this last poll was the most interesting and competitive online poll you've been in. I hope that you all had as much fun as we did, and I am completely earnest and sincere when I say that there are many issues that our two camps can agree on and I would be honored to fight along side with you in the many battles we will fight together in the future.

P.S. if you are wondering what some of those battles are, I support many of the candidates like Rand Paul and Peter Schiff that I know you all support in 2010. I also would love to see Ron Paul as governor of Texas. Anyway, please feel free at anytime to let me know how my fellow Mittheads and I can assist you all. We are in some very dark days right now, but if we focus on where we agree, together, we can make America's future brighter.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1260660082 is my facebook account and probably the easiest way to contact me.

Wait a sec, Mitt Romney was in that poll? :rolleyes:

Mitt wasn't bad, but I couldn't vote for someone who would answer, when asked if the president had the power to go to war without a declaration from congress.......that he would "consult with my lawyers". No thanks, another rich tool in the white house I don't need.

OH YEA. Speaking as one person who DID attend the Florida Straw Poll, I can honestly say that 15 Mitt Romney supporters did manage to outvote over 600 Ron Paul supporters and win the poll. I sat and watched one female Romney supporter vote over 100 times all by herself. I voted once then, and I voted once on the NPR poll........if you don't like losing, don't blame it on cheating......how about pick someone with a better platform to support.
 
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