I'm a Christian, but I'm starting to believe that the Christians have hijacked

[RJB]

accepted*



Can't we all just get aloooooong?

I think we all are.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Faith

Whatever floats your boat.

 

[hillbilly123069]

Most spend there weekend turning their noses up to the homeless though they worship 1

on sunday.Just a personal observation about society in general.

Not true. I live my life according to my values. As a libertarian and a Christian, I do not believe in forcing my beliefs on others. Nor do I claim to know what is in others hearts as you are trying to do now. So why do you think you are better than me?

WEEK,not weekend.

 

[wgadget]

Hey,

I think this thread just illuminates why I'm so glad that we are told NOT TO JUDGE one another, and that judging is God's domain. Which brings me back to my original point---That we mere mortals on earth (notably Christians) are not meant to act as mini-human 'gods."

It is obvious that we are incapable of doing so.

And I am so glad that we can cling to the fact that God is IN CHARGE.

Can I hear an "amen"?

 

[RJB]

http://mostlywater.org/mother_teresa_faithless_fraud_and_hypocrite

Mother Teresa= Fraud bitch.

Fraud? OK where was she charged with a crime?

With mats in hospitals instead of beds. This was in the slums of india, lack of bed is quite common. I've been overseas, sometimes a mat is a luxury...

So what if she was wined and dined when she visited abroad. If Ron Paul came to my house I'd wine and dine him as well (to the best of my limited ability of course.)

I love the guilt by association. RP gets that a lot. LOL They included Reagan in the guilt by association.

As far as abortion goes, if she sees it as killing an unborn human, do you blame the harsh words. Her statement on AIDS was rough, but it is almost 100% preventable.

As to her doubt in God and questioning whether you are doing God's work in her diary... We are all human. Everyone has their shortcomings. Even someone as perfect as me. just kidding.

Most of that article seems to be a biased string of opinion. But then again I'm biased.

Good night.

 

[kombayn]

I completely disagree. Christianity has not hijacked politics.
Christianity = Love one another as I have loved you = Do unto others as I have loved you.

In reality neoconism, liberalism and all that is evil has hijacked Christianity.

I'm a Catholic. Many leaders have hijacked religion in the past and used it for their own gain. Actions of certain popes come to mind. They were not following the tenents of christianity, but people blindly followed them believing they would do no wrong.

GW has done the same. He claim to be a Christian yet launched a pre-emptive illegal war, but Christians do not believe a christian president would do wrong as Christians in the middle ages doubted that a pope would do wrong.

As AIPAC goes, there is no bible verse (old or new testament) that compels us to pre-emptively nuke Iran for Isreal's defense, but many christians are blind because GW a "christian" (wolf in sheeps clothing, false prophet, etc etc) says so. As a christian I resent the evil in our nation that kills in Jesus's name. And I resent the chumps who blindly follow. They are no better than muslim terrorists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism - The philosophy I lean towards.

Every single time we start one of these debates, it becomes a scorched Earth of 20 pages. I do have to ask this question though, how can you say that Neo-Conservatism and other political parties have hijacked the religion if before they were politicians already were apart of the religion?

 

[RJB]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism - The philosophy I lean towards.

Every single time we start one of these debates, it becomes a scorched Earth of 20 pages. I do have to ask this question though, how can you say that Neo-Conservatism and other political parties have hijacked the religion if before they were politicians already were apart of the religion?

Why did they join a religion before they ran for office? It's the standard act of a sociopath. When I graduated from Chiropractic school, one teacher told us to join a church, preferably one of the largest to grow your business. That's how they get elected. I guarantee if the majority of this country suddenly turned atheist a lot of politicians would wake up with a sudden realization that there is no God. It's the way they are.

Absurdism looks interesting. Looking back, when I called myself an atheist/agnostic, I was really an absurdist. Philosophy always fascinated me. Then I started getting iritated when after I'd read a large volume of writing, written in hard to understand double-speak, I'd realize that I could sum up the writing in a few easy to understand sentences. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with BS should be the motto of most philosophers.

I never really read Kierkegaard. I may have to look his stuff up.

 

[dawnbt]

Wrong. Christianity was created by Jesus's disciples (who were Jews) after his death and resurrection. The Romans took over and distorted it.

+1000

 

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

from the Strong's Concordance Dictionary of hebrew/greek lexicon

3478 Yisra'el yis-raw-ale' from 8280 and 410; he will rule as God; Jisrael, a symbolical name of Jacob; also (typically) of his posterity: --Israel.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

YOu have to figure out who the neo cons are..what IS a neoconservative. who was the father of neoconservatism? Who was HIS mentor? What is PNAC? Who started it? When did it start? When you can answer these questions...you will know why we are "joined at the hip" with Israel.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

Go to this site and watch the videos there. A lot of your questions will be answered. That is all I wish to say on the subject, because these videos explain it much better than I can.

www.truthtellers.org

 

[Theocrat]

Poor Eschatology=Poor Foreign Policy

US foreign policy.

The Israel issue seems to top the list of demands of the neocons, who I would say are disproportionately Christian, maybe to the point of being evangelical. It's almost as if they think they are in the business of "playing God," making sure that they do nothing to offend Israel. I don't believe God appreciates us "helping him out." It's almost laughable, if you think about it.

I must say the Israeli's are sure playing us for suckers.

I agree with you, and the problem is that some in the American Christian Church have a poor and faulty eschatology (study of end-times), which basically boils down to everything getting worse in the world because of "the Antichrist" (whose identity they aren't even sure of), and the nation of Israel being God's chosen people (even though the Jews continually reject the Messiah). Yet, I find it interesting how some of my fellow Christians will support organizations and people who agree with global governance and enslavement, which, from a premillenial standpoint, are the very agents that will bring about the reign of the Antichrist in the world they believe will come to power.

I also find it contradictory how some of my Christian brothers and sisters still get involved in politics with the goal of trying to make the world a safer place when they hold to an end-times view which states the world will eventually get worse and go to hell. Why fight against the inevitable? That's why I share your frustration in how duped some Christians are in American foreign policy because they actually undermine their own eschatology when they play "kissing cousins" with the nation of Israel and becoming subservient to a country which does not love the Savior they worship. The Church needs to realize they are the new Israel (God's chosen people) through faith in Christ, and they are joined to Him by His Holy Spirit. Thus, the quintessential problem of the Church's understanding of U.S. foreign policy is their own theology of the last days, in my opinion. I suppose we have John Hagee, Hal Lindsey, Jack Van Impe, and others to thank for that.