Illinois Carry Ban Ruled Unconstitutional! Yay for 2A!

"It's not a joke. We could end up with Wild West-style open carry and concealed carry," one legislator who has long supported severe restrictions on such gun rights said.
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LOL. Or like what people do in all of the safest states in the US.
 
Keith and stuff said:
LOL. Or like what people do in all of the safest states in the US.
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With 50 people getting shot in a weekend, and roving mobs attacking shoppers, "Wild West-style" would be a welcomed change. So far, Chicago IL is the best example of why gun control doesn't work - it has the inverse affect. I am VERY glad the founding fathers understood this.

We'll be the last state of 50 to have carry... BTW - WI (The 49th state to have carry) sure has its gutters running with blood of the innocent /sarcasm
 
Fantastic news. Thanks for posting. So many innocent lives have been lost because of these crazy restrictions, it's about time.
 
NRA attorneys say that if in 180 days the Illinois Legislature can't come up with a constitutional carry law, then there would be NO law on carry on the books, making Illinois an unrestricted open and concealed carry state.
 
brushfire said:
Its been a long and drawn out fight, but we got another MAJOR win!
I just found out that the 7th circuit court of appeals just upheld the 2nd Amendment!

Its not over yet, but I just wanted to share the good news with everyone.


http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/2...urt-strikes-down-illinois-concealed-carry-law
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While I applaud the ruling, it is nevertheless fraught with weasel wording. "Reasonable restrictions" and such language leave the door pretty widely open for all manner of disparagement.

It will be interesting to see how Ill-annoy addresses the new reality. I strongly suspect the "reasonable restrictions" will be very tight and very unreasonable.
 
osan said:
It will be interesting to see how Ill-annoy addresses the new reality. I strongly suspect the "reasonable restrictions" will be very tight and very unreasonable.
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There is other wording which is very positive. The "reasonable" restrictions must be measurable and justify the loss of liberty. This is a test that is normally applied to the 1st Amendment - its the first time I've ever seen it applied to the 2nd Amendment.

Dont get me wrong - its not anywhere near what I'd want, but its a HUGE step in the right direction.


Confederate said:
NRA attorneys say that if in 180 days the Illinois Legislature can't come up with a constitutional carry law, then there would be NO law on carry on the books, making Illinois an unrestricted open and concealed carry state.
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180 days to have everything. Infrastructure, law, etc... Otherwise the UUAW statute can no longer apply. Then IL goes from the worst state for carry to ranking amongst the top 10. The whole thing boggles my mind - especially knowing the power and control the Chicago machine has over the ILGA. Warts and all, I'm very happy with the ruling right now.
 
Illinois given 180 to write Concealed Carry law.

"In a major victory for gun rights advocates, a federal appeals court on Tuesday struck down a ban on carrying concealed weapons in Illinois — the only remaining state where carrying concealed weapons is entirely illegal — and gave lawmakers 180 days to write a law that legalizes it." More at link below...

http://www.pjstar.com/free/x1353218265/Court-strikes-down-Illinois-concealed-carry-law

I'm cautiously optimistic here. The only way I see IL letting this go down, is to have a ridiculous amount of restrictions and ways to lose it.
 
Fantastic news! I remember driving through Illinois last December on my way to volunteer in Iowa there was series of banners on a fence that read "Illinois- the most backwards state in the Union" or something to like wrt the 2nd Amendment/CCW.
 
NoOneButPaul said:
I still live here... I'd love to open carry so much.
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I know what I'm doing - day 1. I'm going to the local Starbucks and picking up a cup of whatever's on tap (hopefully its Sumatra).

Its really sad to say but I'm almost more happy to have the machine by the short hairs than I am about carry.

This things far from over yet though. The oral arguments gave a good telegraph as to what the ruling was going to be. The criminal fascists in the Chicago machine have already vowed to use whatever means necessary to make it impossible to carry, and they've had plenty of time to craft their Sh!tty bill.
Its going to be an interesting 4 to 8 weeks, let alone 6 months.
 
Confederate said:
NRA attorneys say that if in 180 days the Illinois Legislature can't come up with a constitutional carry law, then there would be NO law on carry on the books, making Illinois an unrestricted open and concealed carry state.
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Yes, and this would be so awesome.
 
This part gave me chills. And not in a good way:

"There is no suggestion that some unique characteristic of criminal activity in Illinois justifies the state's taking a different approach from the other 49 states," Judge Richard Posner, who wrote the court's majority opinion. "If the Illinois approach were demonstrably superior, one would expect at least one or two other states to have emulated it."
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So wait, if one state in a Federalist system is the lone holdout on a policy, a Federal Court can come and demand they conform with the rest, just because they said it had a chance to work and it didn't?

I hope this part of the opinion is taken out of context...

I'm all for this victory being on 2nd Amendment grounds, but the precedent setting opinion here scares the willies out of me. It's like Brown v Board -- right decision wrong justification. We are still having racial tention today because of how Brown v Board was established, decidedly not just because it was established.
 
GunnyFreedom said:
This part gave me chills. And not in a good way:


So wait, if one state in a Federalist system is the lone holdout on a policy, a Federal Court can come and demand they conform with the rest, just because they said it had a chance to work and it didn't?

I hope this part of the opinion is taken out of context...

I'm all for this victory being on 2nd Amendment grounds, but the precedent setting opinion here scares the willies out of me. It's like Brown v Board -- right decision wrong justification. We are still having racial tention today because of how Brown v Board was established, decidedly not just because it was established.
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Well, again I'm being optimistic, but I'd like to think that with the way the Fed Gov runs over states all they want now, this is just them using some common sense. If one state does something different, it's no thing to have the Fed Gov run all over em, look at states with legal medicinal cannabis. I'm hoping that this is just using some basic reasoning here, and not something more nefarious.
 
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