Illegal Immigration IRS Fraud - You won't believe this...

[Reason]

Just wow...

http://www.wthr.com/video?clipId=7054149&autostart=true

 

[amonasro]

That's absolutely insane.

 

[libertarian4321]

They kept using the term "tax refund."

If they are getting a return on money paid in, that's bad.

But I suspect many of these are not "tax refunds," but rather collecting a check from the US Government for money never even paid into the system- sort of like the infamous Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) where the income tax code is used as a wealth redistribution system- people "get back" more money than they paid in.

So the IRS does nothing about these people, but goes after American citizens like a pack of angry wolves for relatively minor infractions.

Another example of government gone wrong.

 

[RickyJ]

I think maybe, just maybe, that "IRS" really stands for, International Rothschild Slave enforcement.

 

[Inny Binny]

Good for them. Anyone who evades their taxes is a hero, and fraud is clearly justified in opposing a monolithic entity thieving an entire population of their product and using the funds for everything up to and including mass murder.

 

[tod evans]

What do you want to bet they spend more tax-dollars to study the "problem"?

Then more to implement a gradual solution that will require a whole new division of government employees (complete with SWAT gear)

 

[tod evans]

double post :o

 

[Occam's Banana]

I believe it ... I believe it! (h/t: Stalag 17)

The loophole is the Additional Child Tax Credit, which is intended to "help working families who have children living at home."

If the people who support things like the ACTC really gave a damn about working families w/at-home children (or any families at all, actually), they'd work to ABOLISH the income tax, not play these red-tape games! Instead, we'll end up with a bunch of spluttering outrage over this, which will lead to even more bureaucratic red-tape & IRS gestapoism.

We need to just get rid of the IRS & the income tax. Barring that, I'm not gonna hate on illegals for this. After all, the Warren Buffets, Mitt Romneys & George Soroses of the world get plenty of loopholes for themselves. Why should we begrudge illegal immigrants a (relatively small) piece of the action?

 

[oyarde]

Is that the report done by WHTV in Indianapolis ?

 

[emazur]

I first heard about this from a guest of Schiff radio, but he reported it was about $30 billion a year that it costs:

 

[Enforcer]

They kept using the term "tax refund."

If they are getting a return on money paid in, that's bad.

But I suspect many of these are not "tax refunds," but rather collecting a check from the US Government for money never even paid into the system- sort of like the infamous Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) where the income tax code is used as a wealth redistribution system- people "get back" more money than they paid in.

So the IRS does nothing about these people, but goes after American citizens like a pack of angry wolves for relatively minor infractions.

Another example of government gone wrong.

This sounds like more class warfare from a National Socialist. I've been looking into it:

http://www.freeforum101.com/outcastsandoutl/viewforum.php?f=16&mforum=outcastsandoutl

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Free money for everyone!

 

[Enforcer]

I believe it ... I believe it! (h/t: Stalag 17)

The loophole is the Additional Child Tax Credit, which is intended to "help working families who have children living at home."

If the people who support things like the ACTC really gave a damn about working families w/at-home children (or any families at all, actually), they'd work to ABOLISH the income tax, not play these red-tape games! Instead, we'll end up with a bunch of spluttering outrage over this, which will lead to even more bureaucratic red-tape & IRS gestapoism.

We need to just get rid of the IRS & the income tax. Barring that, I'm not gonna hate on illegals for this. After all, the Warren Buffets, Mitt Romneys & George Soroses of the world get plenty of loopholes for themselves. Why should we begrudge illegal immigrants a (relatively small) piece of the action?

The ONLY thing I did not really enjoy about your post is that term "illegals." Contrary to popular belief it is not illegal to enter the United States nor be here without papers. By calling people something they clearly are not, it helps to attack them when the underlying issue is unconstitutional taxes.

My understanding is that National Socialists engage in this psychological warfare and call people "illegals" in order to make you hate them for allegedly not paying taxes (which they do) or in this effort (grasping at straws), to make you think they get something at your expense. The process gives a subtle validation for maintaining the income tax which is nothing more than a plank from the Communist Manifesto.

As long as we agree with NEW WORLD ORDER terminology and call people "illegals" absent due process, we will be upholding the very forms of totalitarian government we claim to loathe and despise.

http://www.freeforum101.com/outcastsandoutl/viewtopic.php?t=531&mforum=outcastsandoutl

 

[Zippyjuan]

One should perhaps point out that the loophole is also exploited by millions of people who are here legally- citizens and non- citizens- with them comprising the majority of cases of people claiming dependent children they don't actually live with.

 

[AuH20]

And the IRS will come after you, if you refuse to be part of this vicious cycle. The quicker the system falls apart the better.

 

[LadyBastiat]

I believe it ... I believe it! (h/t: Stalag 17)

The loophole is the Additional Child Tax Credit, which is intended to "help working families who have children living at home."

If the people who support things like the ACTC really gave a damn about working families w/at-home children (or any families at all, actually), they'd work to ABOLISH the income tax, not play these red-tape games! Instead, we'll end up with a bunch of spluttering outrage over this, which will lead to even more bureaucratic red-tape & IRS gestapoism.

We need to just get rid of the IRS & the income tax. Barring that, I'm not gonna hate on illegals for this. After all, the Warren Buffets, Mitt Romneys & George Soroses of the world get plenty of loopholes for themselves. Why should we begrudge illegal immigrants a (relatively small) piece of the action?

I agree with abolishing the income tax but I believe this is pure fraud. And, it's certainly NOT ok for them to "take advantage" of this so called "loophole" because it all comes back and lands on my back, your back and all others who pay taxes. This infuriates me. Reserving blame of course for those who participated in the fraud.

Again, a prime reason to get rid of the income tax. But, I know exactly what will happen, they'll just get rid of the tax credit. They've already started dismantling it by putting an income test on it the 2nd year Obama was in office. (Not sure if the O or B administration was responsible). Rather than owing no money that year I ended up owing 2,000 because of the changes to the child tax credit.

I'm getting just about to the point where I'm so pissed off I want to get off the grid. Shit I'm pissed. Red-faced and all!

 

[Occam's Banana]

I agree with abolishing the income tax but I believe this is pure fraud. And, it's certainly NOT ok for them to "take advantage" of this so called "loophole" because it all comes back and lands on my back, your back and all others who pay taxes. This infuriates me. Reserving blame of course for those who participated in the fraud.

I don't disagree with you. But the fraud being perpetrated here is small potatoes compared to the sort of things the well-connected wealthy get away with. (That's what I was trying to indicate with my reference to the likes of Buffet, Romney & Soros).

It's not just the tax loopholes that they enjoy, but the subsidies (in myriad forms) that they receive. Makes the $4.2 billion mentioned in the OP story look like chump change by comparison. The immigrants in this story are getting away with petty theft while the home-grown "big boys" get away with grand larceny. Yet it's the petty thieves who end up being the target of everyone's outrage.

 

[LibForestPaul]

Tax Credit

Was the child a U.S. citizen, U.S. national, U.S. resident
alien, or a resident of Canada or Mexico? (See Pub. 519 for
the definition of a U.S. national or U.S. resident alien. If the
child was adopted, see Exception to citizen test, later.)

Adoption taxpayer identification numbers (ATINs). If you have a
AND dependent who was placed with you for legal adoption and you do
not know his or her SSN, you must get an ATIN for the dependent
from the IRS. See Form W-7A for details. If the dependent is not a
U.S. citizen or resident alien, apply for an ITIN instead, using Form
W-7.

Yes the government, the state, the people in power, hate Americans. But the mundanes will keep voting Republicrat. As long as they believe they get to exploit someone else, they will not care. No sympathy, just maniacal laughing.

 

[Enforcer]

I agree with abolishing the income tax but I believe this is pure fraud. And, it's certainly NOT ok for them to "take advantage" of this so called "loophole" because it all comes back and lands on my back, your back and all others who pay taxes. This infuriates me. Reserving blame of course for those who participated in the fraud.

Again, a prime reason to get rid of the income tax. But, I know exactly what will happen, they'll just get rid of the tax credit. They've already started dismantling it by putting an income test on it the 2nd year Obama was in office. (Not sure if the O or B administration was responsible). Rather than owing no money that year I ended up owing 2,000 because of the changes to the child tax credit.

I'm getting just about to the point where I'm so pissed off I want to get off the grid. Shit I'm pissed. Red-faced and all!

You should never have volunteered to be part of the income tax scheme.

 

[libertyjam]

Does Enforcer reject the entirety of USC Title 8? http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8