I'll tell you what's happening to these forums.....

[Fields]

I'm a Goldwater-Conservative. How about you?

Same here. What solidified it was after I read The Conscience of a Conservative by Barry Goldwater.

 

[Conza88]

Ron Paul's already won..
we just have to wait.. *sigh*

I've already bought my tickets... coming 12,000miles to see ALL YA'LL MOTHER FKERS AT THE INAUGURATION!

 

[Bluedevil]

and, then came Diebold and the rest was history - over and over and over and over and over again

If you stop and ask 10 random people on the street who they are voting for, how many do you think would say Ron Paul? I would be shocked to find one. I believe the election results.

 

[srps2233]

I'll admit I'm one of the ones that lost a bit of steam recently and only visit here sporadically now. But think of it this way: look how much progress has been made. People's eyes are starting to open, and even if they have not embraced the message, it is out there. We have FOUR YEARS to spread this message, through every channel available. We should keep up with the little projects. Instead of an ad in the newspaper for Ron Paul, have an ad in the newspaper for small government. Expose the MSM wherever you can (when it is valid). If we can each save up $2300, we could have an absolutely phonomenal moneybomb in the next four years.

Above all, STOP THE TINFOIL HATTERY. It DOES NOT help when you are explaining civil liberties and so forth to have someone babbling about how the Mexico and the Canada are going to eat the United States and the Illuminati Jewlizards are taking over and whatever the hell.

 

[liberteebell]

I been around long enough in politics that I looked at it a lot different than some of the young people on here. When I heard RP was running I said to myself. "he won't get anywhere with a real small government platform but I am voting for him." When I saw the enthusiasm and support for RP I was amazed that there was that many people that really believed in the message. So for me it was "holy cow he did great and has started a movement." The young people that don't have a lot of political history to look back on, said, " holy Sh*t he didn't win!" A loss is only a loss if you don't learn from it.

What klamath said! Especially that last sentence. Continual analysis and learning from mistakes is the only way to improve.

 

[mjp1025]

Until someone of major authority exposes the vote fraud in this country, the status quo will continue.

 

[liberteebell]

I don't think it's entirely over just yet... and I wouldn't discount the stealth delegates bit.

I agree that it's just beginning in earnest... and that it's not ultimately about putting just one man into office. It's about a lot more than that. Now we know that we aren't alone.

For years, I thought I was alone. Up until I met all the Ron Paul people, I didn't know another female in my age group, except for one of my sisters, who understood libertarian principles. And now...having all these new liberty loving instant friends of every age, gender and background remains the coolest thing about this campaign.

I know now that this huge group of individuals is a force to be reckoned with. We may not win the presidency right now but we've already influenced politics at every level in real time thanks to the internet. It took years for Barry Goldwater's ideas to take hold.

The other candidates are not "stealing" Ron Paul's ideas because the sort-of like the sound of them; it's because they recognize that those issues actually resonate with a huge group of people; that would be US . And if Rudy and the others really do get educated, that's winning.

Look at all the people who have taken over their local committees, written resolutions with our principles in mind and challenged the status quo in every way, shape and form.

Think about all the people who have awakened. I know all of y'all have gratifying personal stories

For those of you down and out about the primaries/caucuses, please reflect on the many battles we have won and use those as a springboard to continuing the fight. We have a lifetime ahead of us to win back our country.

 

[SilentBull]

what we need is to start our local GOP parties. That's what Ron Paul wants. That's how we can take the party back.

 

[Drknows]

What are you people, I didn't think you were real Repubs. Somebody the other day called me a neocon, but who are the real liars. Your just a bunch of libertarians in Repub clothing. I'm glad I saw the light...

He thinks hes a conservative because he watches fox news. I bet you have posters of hannity all over your room.

 

[WilliamC]

I'm not sure how to explain what has happened to me over this process - at time I feel like I've been going crazy

I now understand what my mission is

I WILL AND FOEVER DECIDED TO LIVE LIE A FREE MAN FOREVER.......

I will gain control of the GOP and I will gain control of our government - and I have a feeling I will not be alone!!!

I've been reading your posts for a while George, and you are crazy

That's ok, I'm with you man!

 

[WilliamC]

What are you people, I didn't think you were real Repubs. Somebody the other day called me a neocon, but who are the real liars. Your just a bunch of libertarians in Repub clothing. I'm glad I saw the light...

Oh look, it's LaughingCow, one of the herd mentality supporters.

Still trying to campaign for McCain here in the RonPaulForums?

Along with the Huckabee and Obama supporters?

heh heh.

 

[acmegeek]

For those of us that really get it, Ron has won. The Whitehouse will be gravy.

Dr. Paul knew that there was a cancer deep inside the very core of America. He has been planning the treatment for some time. We, those now fired up with eyes wide open, are an essential part of his plan.

What he has started is far from over. I'm still in it to win it, but I know that just having Ron as President isn't enough to enact all he proposes. The big picture is a wholesale replacement of the establishment by those who have chosen to take the red pill... The big picture is The Revolution.

I now know that there are thousands if not tens of thousands of like-minded patriots across this country.

We have awoken.

We are informed.

We are getting ready.

We are The Revolution.

 

[the_bee]

This person is some-what right

This place was a breeding ground for unrealistic expectations. People were led to believe that Ron Paul could win this election, but anyone with an ounce of common sense should have known better. Then reality set in after Iowa, NH, and then with Super Tuesday. Even then, there were still people running around here spouting some goofy Ron-Paul-will-win-with-stealth-delegates nonsense. When those who were foolish enough to believe all the hype finally got slapped upside the head with reality, they gave up and left.

This was a fear of mine from the very first time I visited this forum. I was afraid the movement would lose steam when all these people had to come to grips with the reality that we are in for a long, hard fight. I tried several times to post on the subject and point out the reality that what is happening right now is only the infant stages of our fight. I wanted people to know that RP's run for the nomination was only an initial stepping stone to get us started down the path to making real change, but I was attacked and criticized from all sides by people saying I shouldn't be negative about RP winning this election.

If people had known up front that we didn't really expect to win the nomination and that the real goal was just to begin getting the message out and building a coalition, perhaps they wouldn't have felt so let down when the primary results started coming in. When you think of this campaign in terms of getting out our message and gathering an army, it has been a massive success. However, when it's thought of in terms of winning the nomination, it has been a massive failure. It's unfortunate that so many people defined success and framed victory as RP winning the presidency. If success had been accurately and realistically defined, we would all be celebrating our achievements right now, and this forum would still be buzzing with excitement.

Moving forward, imho, we should be trying to bring people back around and preparing them for the long fight. We need to have a snowball effect for many years in order to build a large enough coalition to really be able to bring about the change we desire.

I agree to a point, but we should not give up on the convention …who knows what could happen.......on the other hand.. We absolutely need to keep the movement going and build and build and build and keep building until we are so massive we can take over!!!!

 

[WilliamC]

I agree to a point, but we should not give up on the convention …who knows what could happen.......on the other hand.. We absolutely need to keep the movement going and build and build and build and keep building until we are so massive we can take over!!!!

Continued growth is the key.

I don't know where the critical mass will be, but if we can get 1 million dedicated Ron Paul Patriots involved in politics I don't think we can lose.

Even several hundred thousand activists will make a huge impact on the system.

My only fear is how the establishment will react, and if they will unleash violence to repress the population.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

For those of us that really get it, Ron has won. The Whitehouse will be gravy.

Dr. Paul knew that there was a cancer deep inside the very core of America. He has been planning the treatment for some time. We, those now fired up with eyes wide open, are an essential part of his plan.

What he has started is far from over. I'm still in it to win it, but I know that just having Ron as President isn't enough to enact all he proposes. The big picture is a wholesale replacement of the establishment by those who have chosen to take the red pill... The big picture is The Revolution.

I now know that there are thousands if not tens of thousands of like-minded patriots across this country.

We have awoken.

We are informed.

We are getting ready.

We are The Revolution.

+2008


One thing that could improve our little space here is for people to not respond to negative threads/obvious trolls - flag and ignore - let them sink into the archives - thanks

 

[Todd]

What are you people, I didn't think you were real Repubs. Somebody the other day called me a neocon, but who are the real liars. Your just a bunch of libertarians in Repub clothing. I'm glad I saw the light...

If you think a libertarianism isn't something conducive to being a Republican..You need a history lesson. So start boning up on your William F. Buckley, and Barry Goldwater histories....a couple of the founding fathers of the present day conservatives. (until it went astray).
Libertarians are only considered bastard step children in the Republican party because they haven't bandwagoned with the big government Republican mentality of the last 20 years, but there has ALWAYS been a strong libertarian streak at the heart of conservatism.

Do your Homework.

Start with Goldwater's "The conscience of a conservative" and then watch Reagan's "A Time for choosing " speech.
And get back with me and tell me how that reflects the Bush, Romney or McCain administration

 

[CurtisLow]

Do your best!

It's not over until your 6 ft. under.

 

[stevedasbach]

The only way to wise up the GOP is to make them lose with a third party/independent run. They'll likely lose anyway, but a well-funded Ron Paul Republican will drive them into dust. Anyone who's dealt with the GOP during this process has seen that it's rotten from the inside out. The "good people" of the GOP are deluded. They still think Reagan was a saint, and not a failed big government, senile pawn. I was at a meeting yesterday where a Republican "True Believer" read stirring quote from Saint Ron, apparently unaware that Saint Ron had a speech writer and I recognized at least half the quotes as being stolen directly from old proverbs. We are barely making a dent in this giant decaying carcass of a party.

By bringing in a candidate with some credibility like a governor or former governor (Think Mark Sanford and Gary Johnson) and giving them our support (think of someone better, I don't know enough about the possibilities) with funding up front and having them only run in the general election, we'll get right past all the B.S. of the primaries where we can be worn down through attrition and corruption. Bring in a fresh face like one of those two or another RP Republican to run as independent and people will be looking to get away from the tiresome rhetoric they've been exposed to for the last year.

We need to make them lose and do it over and over and over until they choke on the futility of trying to marginalize freedom anymore. And by seriously funding an independent run and doing it every election with a Ron Paul Republican if necessary, we can accomplish that. There is really no other way in my estimation. The process within the party is completely corrupt and unreachable through even the courts because it's a private corporation during the primary season. Not to mention the judges are in on the game.

Sanford is still wedded to the Republican Party. He won't run 3rd party.

Gary Johnson isn't trying to climb the ladder in the RP, so if he could be convinced that running for President would help advance the issues he cares about, he might consider doing it.

The best option may be former four-term Repblican Congressman Bob Barr (R-GA). He's the person who introduced Dr. Paul at CPAC.

He has already left the RP for the Libertarian Party and would have an excellent chance of getting the LP nomination. He is a Constitutionalist like Paul and has been an outspoken critic of the Patriot Act and other affronts to our civil liberties.

 

[nobody's_hero]

All that has happened so far is that we have realised it may not be possible to get the Republican nomination.

So what? Who needs 'em?

 

[nobody's_hero]

What are you people, I didn't think you were real Repubs. Somebody the other day called me a neocon, but who are the real liars. Your just a bunch of libertarians in Repub clothing. I'm glad I saw the light...

I used to be a neo-con.

used to. . . .

I don't know what I am now, since I get this strong urge to break someone's jaw when they try to label me anything other than American.

Libertarian, Republican, Liberal, Democrat, Conservative.

Blah, blah, blah.

"I am what I am, and that's all that I am." - Popeye