I'll tell you what's happening to these forums.....

I don't think you could have generated the type of interest from people without hoping that Ron Paul would win.

If Ron Paul does not win the nomination it is important to feel that sting of loss so that you understand the stakes. If you went in like the Libertarians, knowing you will lose, I don't think you will gain interested youthful followers.

Once you are sold on Ron Paul's message, who is your second choice? Everyone who is voting for Ron Paul is forever ruined for the poll driven candidates. You can't offer meaningless platitudes to people who expect reason and reasons. "What Change?" "Yes we can what?" etc...

So hoping for Ron Paul to win, to the bitter end is important. In the end, Ron Paul will be remembered for planting a seed of truth. I hope we look back fondly as we do at other American heroes who changed the course of history. I fear that we will look back with regret at what might have been had more of us stood together.

You may have a point about generating interest through the belief that RP will win, so I guess it's a damned if you do/damned if you don't situation. Once that belief that RP will win has been shattered, the interest is lost as well.
 
I don't think it's entirely over just yet... and I wouldn't discount the stealth delegates bit.

I agree that it's just beginning in earnest... and that it's not ultimately about putting just one man into office. It's about a lot more than that. Now we know that we aren't alone.
 
I agree about fighting the battle before us, and I think we should define what constitutes a victory in that battle.

To be able to claim a victory, I think we will need to get enough delegates to the convention to either win or cause a riff within the party - causing them to question everything they've ever known.

Granted, this may break the GOP but if we drive the wedge far enough it will be an opportunity for Ron Paul Republicans to gain a foothold in the party. Ultimately, we have to become the establishment.

Let's upset their applecart.
 
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I'm not sure how to explain what has happened to me over this process - at time I feel like I've been going crazy

I now understand what my mission is

I WILL AND FOEVER DECIDED TO LIVE LIE A FREE MAN FOREVER.......

I will gain control of the GOP and I will gain control of our government - and I have a feeling I will not be alone!!!



woot woot!

GOP, watch out, you're the Revolutions next target! We will take you over! And then on the next presidential election, we will win!
 
Guys for me to see this fixation to get RP to the WH is just a waste of time and resources.

I agree with TheOne about the high expectations because we all hoped to get RP to the WH but reality has settled for me.

I was one of those scepticals who never beleived that the GOP would give RP the nomination but I was relying on the people to overwhelm the GOP and force RP's nomination. That didn't happen. Period. End of story. Let's move on to the next battle.

We have a great opportunity before us to take on the establishment through congressionial seats. There are a bunch of guys with RP's platform running for house seats. If you are not running, prepare and educate yourself for 2010.

I am not running this time around because I will be getting surgery performed in the following weeks and will need to rest for a couple of months. That would make it impossible for me to campaign. Besides I need to build up some political rep in town. But I have pledge to run for house seat in 2010.

They have won the battle but the war is only beginning.
 
The victory in this battle is that every time someone awakens to the message of freedom and that epiphany propels them to vote for those principles and/or drives them to be proactive in the movement, THAT is victory!!!

It grows exponentially, 1 at a time X 5/10/20/40 etc..like a ripple ever expanding.

I've been preaching the RP message for 25 years, and after all these many years words cannot begin to express the satisfaction and gladness in my heart that I feel when I see so many thousands/millions awakening from their slumber, let alone becoming passionate and driven to the ideology and doctrine of the Constitution.

We've come farther in the past year than we have in the last 50 years!!! No small feat my friends and I wish I could throw you all a party because this accomplishment is nothing short of amazing.

The delegate process is daunting but is priceless in terms of knowledge and potential outcome, if nothing else they will know that we were there and that we now have their number. How long is it before they realize their glory days are history?
 
Whats happening is that other supports from other candidates are spamming their opinions through a filter that may or may not be within the message of Ron Paul.
STAY TRUE TO WHAT YOU BELIEVE! Not some whacko that thinks different.

I know theres impostors in here because I only see the negativity in these forums. Look toward your meetups. You wont see any naysayers there. <- if you disagree with that your not a supporter in MY EYES. and thats my opinion so don't argue it.
 
I must have not got the "Give up and go home" memo...

I'm now the precinct chairman in my precinct.
I'm now a delegate to my county convention.
I'm on the platform committee of that same county.
I'm slated to run for national delegate at our district convention here in 12 days.

I ain't givin' up the ghost just yet. :)
 
I must have not got the "Give up and go home" memo...

I'm now the precinct chairman in my precinct.
I'm now a delegate to my county convention.
I'm on the platform committee of that same county.
I'm slated to run for national delegate at our district convention here in 12 days.

I ain't givin' up the ghost just yet. :)

Congratulations, Im right there with you.
 
Keep this in mind...a lot of us were living this day and night for a year...it doesn't mean that we have given up on the cause if we are not visiting this site as much or working as hard...some people just need a break.

Seriously, a lot of our wives/girlfriends/families/boyfriends/ husbands have been ignored for quite awhile while so many dedicated so much time to this effort...
 
I must have not got the "Give up and go home" memo...

I'm now the precinct chairman in my precinct.
I'm now a delegate to my county convention.
I'm on the platform committee of that same county.
I'm slated to run for national delegate at our district convention here in 12 days.

I ain't givin' up the ghost just yet. :)

maybe you didn't watch the Ron Paul video released this past week

if you can't read between the lines Ron said, "Give up and go home, I have."

he is in Texas trying to save his House Seat, he is not running for President

like John Lennon said, "The Dream is Over"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=U7zqDjfuloA
 
I must have not got the "Give up and go home" memo...

I'm now the precinct chairman in my precinct.
I'm now a delegate to my county convention.
I'm on the platform committee of that same county.
I'm slated to run for national delegate at our district convention here in 12 days.

I ain't givin' up the ghost just yet. :)

Hey, no one is suggesting to change your vote or to just cross your arms and do nothing. Heck, TX primaries are on 3/4/08 and I'll be voting RP. Yet, I know by fact that the GOP and DNC have agendas and RP doesn't fit in. We all don't fit in.

So we all have to keep on fighting but we can not be fixated to something we know is not going to happen. I am convinced about this. The GOP will nominate a pro-war idiot to continue with their agenda.

But if we wise enough, we can stop them in their tracks by getting people with RP's views in congress. This time aroung we have a whole bunch of prople running. By 2010, if we organize, I think we can get majority in the house.

I am not giving up this war. Yet, we must be wise and rethink our strategy!
 
To be able to claim a victory, I think we will need to get enough delegates to the convention to either win or cause a riff within the party - causing them to question everything they've ever known.

Granted, this may break the GOP but if we drive the wedge far enough it will be an opportunity for Ron Paul Republicans to gain a foothold in the party. Ultimately, we have to become the establishment.

Let's upset their applecart.

The only way to wise up the GOP is to make them lose with a third party/independent run. They'll likely lose anyway, but a well-funded Ron Paul Republican will drive them into dust. Anyone who's dealt with the GOP during this process has seen that it's rotten from the inside out. The "good people" of the GOP are deluded. They still think Reagan was a saint, and not a failed big government, senile pawn. I was at a meeting yesterday where a Republican "True Believer" read stirring quote from Saint Ron, apparently unaware that Saint Ron had a speech writer and I recognized at least half the quotes as being stolen directly from old proverbs. We are barely making a dent in this giant decaying carcass of a party.

By bringing in a candidate with some credibility like a governor or former governor (Think Mark Sanford and Gary Johnson) and giving them our support (think of someone better, I don't know enough about the possibilities) with funding up front and having them only run in the general election, we'll get right past all the B.S. of the primaries where we can be worn down through attrition and corruption. Bring in a fresh face like one of those two or another RP Republican to run as independent and people will be looking to get away from the tiresome rhetoric they've been exposed to for the last year.

We need to make them lose and do it over and over and over until they choke on the futility of trying to marginalize freedom anymore. And by seriously funding an independent run and doing it every election with a Ron Paul Republican if necessary, we can accomplish that. There is really no other way in my estimation. The process within the party is completely corrupt and unreachable through even the courts because it's a private corporation during the primary season. Not to mention the judges are in on the game.
 
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woot woot!

GOP, watch out, you're the Revolutions next target! We will take you over! And then on the next presidential election, we will win!

What are you people, I didn't think you were real Repubs. Somebody the other day called me a neocon, but who are the real liars. Your just a bunch of libertarians in Repub clothing. I'm glad I saw the light...
 
What are you people, I didn't think you were real Repubs. Somebody the other day called me a neocon, but who are the real liars. Your just a bunch of libertarians in Repub clothing. I'm glad I saw the light...

Duh. Why should we be retarded party hacks, neo-con or not? The Republican Party has gutted this country even worse than the Democrats could have the last eight years. They deserve to be spat upon, punished, or at least taken over by liberty-minded people capable of doing a better job.
 
What are you people, I didn't think you were real Repubs. Somebody the other day called me a neocon, but who are the real liars. Your just a bunch of libertarians in Repub clothing. I'm glad I saw the light...

I'm a Goldwater-Conservative. How about you?
 
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