IL - Man who offered ride to girls in a snowstorm charged with disorderly conduct.

[Beorn]

I thought it was a crime to not help people in need of assistance, the good samaritan law?

civil liability, not criminal.

In most places there is no civil or criminal liability except for at least two situations:

1) The person has a special relationship with the victim that would seem to carry responsibility for the victim like a nanny or body guard.
2) once a person has begun to help someone they are on the hook and can't abandon them.

There might be other exceptions, but those are the two I remember.

 

[centure7]

How exactly is offering a ride to someone "disorderly conduct"? Please explain! I'm lost here.

There is nothing to explain. Disorderly conduct is an opinion. Walking backwards in public? That is out of order. Disorderly conduct, GO TO PRISON NOW!

 

[JonGod]

Not to feed AF's police paranoia but here is one to make you puke.
http://www.redding.com/news/2011/sep/16/former-apd-officer-accused-rape-takes-plea-deal/

How is it paranoia, what makes Police inherently better than any other asshole? It has been proven time and again they are just normal people with flaws like us.

 

[Professor8000]

So, I take it that as someone who is currently employed in law enforcement, and will be soon pursuing a career as a police officer, I'm not welcome among my fellow lovers of liberty? Am I less deserving to join the ranks of those who wage war against the tyranny in this country?

 

[osan]

See Something, Say Something.

And on the Eight Day Big Brother created the Rat and saw that it was good.

Despite his being charged, the Petersons don’t blame the girls, their families or even police for following up.

Given his tenuous position, what else could he say? To hell with all you bastards?

He said the right thing to do in a situation like that is to call police and tell them that the teens need a ride...

...so that they can kidnap, rape, and murder them.

What a maroon. What a brainwashed little coward. Were it not for my sense of principle, I'd say let the piggies have him as a between meal afterthought.

 

[asurfaholic]

I dunno. Stay away from girls you don't know, but that wont even help always. A neighbor looked in my house and saw through one bedroom window, through a hall, and into the master bedroom, and saw me getting into the shower and I was arrested at work on 2 counts of indecent exposure. True story.

 

[qh4dotcom]

So, I take it that as someone who is currently employed in law enforcement, and will be soon pursuing a career as a police officer, I'm not welcome among my fellow lovers of liberty? Am I less deserving to join the ranks of those who wage war against the tyranny in this country?

Of course you're welcome....but that doesn't mean we should give your other fellow police officers a free pass when they abuse power.

 

[specsaregood]

So, I take it that as someone who is currently employed in law enforcement, and will be soon pursuing a career as a police officer, I'm not welcome among my fellow lovers of liberty? Am I less deserving to join the ranks of those who wage war against the tyranny in this country?

Dunno, how are you going to wage war against tyranny when you are charged with employing it?

 

[Voluntary Man]

I dunno. Stay away from girls you don't know, but that wont even help always. A neighbor looked in my house and saw through one bedroom window, through a hall, and into the master bedroom, and saw me getting into the shower and I was arrested at work on 2 counts of indecent exposure. True story.

Welcome to Amerika!

...where there's NO presumption of privacy in your own home, and peepers can have you arrested for indecent exposure!

 

[kill the banks]

I thought it was a crime to not help people in need of assistance, the good samaritan law?

funny just what I was thinking ... prob they'd charge him for that too

 

[Professor8000]

Of course you're welcome....but that doesn't mean we should give your other fellow police officers a free pass when they abuse power.

Not like I'm going to give them a free pass when enforcing unconstitutional laws either.

 

[Schiff_FTW]

Man tries to do the right, is no longer allowed to be around his own child.

DO NOT *EVER* CALL THE "AUTHORITIES" UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. Police, prosecutors, and judges care about one thing and one thing only -- getting a conviction. "Justice" does not entire into the equation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-17274848

Council bans daughter contact over child images

A man who informed police when he found child abuse images on his computer has not been allowed to be alone with his daughter for four months.

Nigel Robinson from Hull said he called police after trying to download music but instead finding pornographic images on his laptop last November.

As a result social services said he "should not have unsupervised access with his own or other children".

He said he was "totally innocent". No arrests or charges have been made.

Mr Robinson, 43, recalled how on discovering the images he discussed the situation with his wife and immediately called police to report the incident.

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It makes you feel as though you shouldn't have reported it in the first place”

Shortly after his call the police and East Riding social services came to Mr Robinson's house to take statements from him.

During the meeting social services requested Mr Robinson did not have unsupervised access with his child.

 

[Professor8000]

Dunno, how are you going to wage war against tyranny when you are charged with employing it?

Easy, with a gun and the Constitution.

 

[Victor Grey]

This sounds like something I would do. It would never come to mind I could be accused for pedophilia.
Seeing how pedophilia, doesn't come to mind.

That concerns me.

You know in a way I wish as much that this wouldn't be in the news as I do it the occurance itself wouldn't exist. News like this sort is damaging to the reputation for the person involved.
Seeing how I can wrap my mind around this whole concept that not everyone, or at least I hope indeed most nearly all of everyone, does not want to rape people,
I'm inclined to believe the person's story he stated for the incident. This needs to be resolved quickly and the man needs to be left alone.
There's no evidence against him. It shouldn't even make the courts.

What I really don't like out of this, is this idea I'd have to watch what I do around anyone who is female, half of people, because someone else has some sort of imo near hysterical, rape or pedophile phobia.

I thought this was like some unique U.K. thing.

 

[specsaregood]

Easy, with a gun and the Constitution.

More power to you then! Let us know how it goes.

 

[Voluntary Man]

as someone who is currently employed in law enforcement, and will be soon pursuing a career as a police officer

In what capacity are you currently employed in law enforcement?

So, I take it that...I'm not welcome among my fellow lovers of liberty? Am I less deserving to join the ranks of those who wage war against the tyranny in this country?

I don't automatically assume that all cops are low IQ neonazi drones, but the overwhelming evidence is that far too many are, and that the "good cops" are just the guys who aren't on the take, don't abuse suspects, and occasionally look the other way when a malum prohibitum (victimless) "crime" occurs in their presence -- but who never break the code of silence against the cops who are preying on the public they're supposed to be serving. If you can pacify yourself that you're not part of the problem, just because you disagree with the laws you enforce or disapprove of your more corrupt fellow officers, then you will be doing no great service to the cause of liberty.

But, hey, let us know, after 2 years on the job, how your role as a cop is doing more to advance liberty than to subvert it. You might be another Sheriff Mack. Who knows.

 

[Professor8000]

In what capacity are you currently employed in law enforcement?



I don't automatically assume that all cops are low IQ neonazi drones, but the overwhelming evidence is that far too many are, and that the "good cops" are just the guys who aren't on the take, don't abuse suspects, and occasionally look the other way when a malum prohibitum (victimless) "crime" occurs in their presence -- but who never break the code of silence against the cops who are preying on the public they're supposed to be serving. If you can pacify yourself that you're not part of the problem, just because you disagree with the laws you enforce or disapprove of your more corrupt fellow officers, then you will be doing no great service to the cause of liberty.

But, hey, let us know, after 2 years on the job, how your role as a cop is doing more to advance liberty than to subvert it. You might be another Sheriff Mack. Who knows.

I am currently employed as private security.

The bad apples make the other 3% of cops look bad.

 

[specsaregood]

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[Professor8000]

I'll look to the constitution to see if it allows for the particular law that I'm supposed to be enforcing. If it doesn't, then that law is null and void and I will not enforce it and will actively stop anyone I witness enforcing it. This is how someone who takes their oath seriously should act anyway.

 

[brushfire]

Yeah, I have an inlaw that is now a retired narc cop for 30 years. Yet, will readily tell you that the war on drugs is pointless and will never succeed. Yet, arrested untold numbers of people because that was their job.

I have a relative that's a cop. He firmly believes that if it weren't for the drug laws, his children would be strung out on heroine. "Dont tell me, I see the riff raff - every day. I see what drugs do to people". When the argument of prohibition is brought up he claims that its some how different. He refuses to acknowledge any parallel between the "war on drugs" and prohibition (on the grounds that it may prove him wrong LOL )
Besides, he was also a pol-sci major, so he is not to be questioned about such things.