If we fill the conventions in Georgia and Newt wins and then drops out...

[Rafi]

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but something occurred to me about Georgia and David Frum's article on Ron Paul stacking the delegate conventions there.

Let's assume that Gingrich wins Georgia and gets all or almost all the delegates there. Delegates are bound, 71 I believe. Let's assume that Ron Paul supporters stack the conventions as Frum describes. Then you have 71 Ron Paul supporters bound to vote for Newt at the convention.

Then let's assume that Gingrich drops out and all those bound Ron Paul guys become unbound.

Is this what we're up to over there? If so, that's freaking genius.

There's a saying in the talmud that goes like this:

צדיקים מלאכתם נעשית בידי אחרים - The work of the righteous is done by others for him.

Go Newt! Win us some delegates!

 

[tsetsefly]

I hope this is true...

 

[zadrock]

Bound for two rounds, unless candidate withdraws or releases them. So yes, the scenario above is true, though it should be noted that GA is proportional, so a newt win would still mean at least some bound delegates for the other three candidates.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/GA-R#0306

 

[wgadget]

Just wanting to take this opportunity to say, "HI, smarmy GA GOP. We know you're out there!"

And you know who you are.

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

I heard this about South Carolina. Ever since I first heard it I have wondered how many other so called "sleeper cells" we have planted in these caucuses.

 

[wgadget]

In other news, I didn't even attend the local precinct meeting and one of you cool RP guys signed me up to be a delegate again this time around. I got a letter in the mail. Thanks!

Love the part in the notification letter about how now I must stand up to the nominating committee for approval. What's THAT about?

 

[nobody's_hero]

Yeah apparently the precinct meeting on Feb. 18th was for large counties. I got called about becoming a delegate and I signed up to show up on March 10th 'cause I live in a smaller county, but I haven't received any details about what to do from here.

I haven't heard anything about a 'nominating committee', so yeah, what's that?

 

[MozoVote]

I have to admit, the practice in GA of allowing names to be added to the precinct lists is ripe for abuse. In NC, there is a "sign in sheet" at the door, a "precinct attendance form", and the "delegate sheet". In theory, a name on the delegate sheet that is not on the other two, should cause a credentials challenge. I think the state party gets copies of all these forms.

Admittedly, some NC counties are not doing things by the book. But in my county, the Democratic party got raked over the coals for "lowering the basket" on credentials during a special election. It was so bad that the state Democratic party had to invalidate the results. So our local GOP has become quite particular about getting these forms filled.

 

[tbone717]

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but something occurred to me about Georgia and David Frum's article on Ron Paul stacking the delegate conventions there.

Let's assume that Gingrich wins Georgia and gets all or almost all the delegates there. Delegates are bound, 71 I believe. Let's assume that Ron Paul supporters stack the conventions as Frum describes. Then you have 71 Ron Paul supporters bound to vote for Newt at the convention.

Then let's assume that Gingrich drops out and all those bound Ron Paul guys become unbound.

Is this what we're up to over there? If so, that's freaking genius.

There's a saying in the talmud that goes like this:

צדיקים מלאכתם נעשית בידי אחרים - The work of the righteous is done by others for him.

Go Newt! Win us some delegates!

71 RP supporters as delegates is a unlikely result. But even if we are able to do well with getting RP supporters elected as delegates to the RNC, any remaining ones that are identified by the Newt campaign in GA as being "his people" could be contacted and asked to support Romney for the nomination at the convention when Newt drops out. So if Romney is 100 delegates short of winning the nomination on the first ballot, Newt could get him closer to the total needed by identifying his GA delegates, getting them to commit to Romney and dropping out of the race.

There are two months between the past primary and the convention, which is more than enough time for the campaigns to work together in order to avoid any sort of convention issues.

 

[ross11988]

4 years ago my grandmother told me that a Ron Paul supporter called her Georgia house and asked her to be a Ron Paul delegate. I found this odd because my grandmother is a democrat, I believe she still votes in NY, and she wasn't a Ron Paul supporter. I do know their strategy, but at least they know the system and lets hope they are still organized.

 

[XTreat]

Article is correct, we are highly organized, I am co-coordinator for 2 counties and can assure you we have the vast majority of delegates at this point in the process for at least those two counties.

We handed out lists to members from each precinct of supporters just to flood the list with our people so the insiders could not do it with theirs.

 

[DGambler]

The GA GOP leadership in my area are the biggest bunch of dirty trick using Neocons @ssholes in the state. They'll use every trick in the book to keep any known Ron Paul supporters from going from district to state.

 

[DRFilms]

Article is correct, we are highly organized, I am co-coordinator for 2 counties and can assure you we have the vast majority of delegates at this point in the process for at least those two counties.

We handed out lists to members from each precinct of supporters just to flood the list with our people so the insiders could not do it with theirs.

Yep... pretty much sums it up. I'm a county delegate as well (someone here jumped on me for saying I was a delegate because they haven't been chosen yet.. well, I am... in my district/county. Not a state delegate, those haven't been picked, but a county.. yep. Looking at the letter right now.) and we've had meetups with instructions on what and how to play the game to get ourselves (RP supporters) to fill the spots.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

im from ga and all i can say is "we must follow the rules".... see ya saturday GOP!

 

[opinionatedfool]

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but something occurred to me about Georgia and David Frum's article on Ron Paul stacking the delegate conventions there.

Let's assume that Gingrich wins Georgia and gets all or almost all the delegates there. Delegates are bound, 71 I believe. Let's assume that Ron Paul supporters stack the conventions as Frum describes. Then you have 71 Ron Paul supporters bound to vote for Newt at the convention.

Then let's assume that Gingrich drops out and all those bound Ron Paul guys become unbound.

Is this what we're up to over there? If so, that's freaking genius.

There's a saying in the talmud that goes like this:

צדיקים מלאכתם נעשית בידי אחרים - The work of the righteous is done by others for him.

Go Newt! Win us some delegates!

I would have to look at georgia's rules, but I'm pretty sure you are correct.

 

[kathy88]

Bound for two rounds, unless candidate withdraws or releases them. So yes, the scenario above is true, though it should be noted that GA is proportional, so a newt win would still mean at least some bound delegates for the other three candidates.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/GA-R#0306

Just so I'm clear on this, if the delegates are released, there isn't any loophole which would allow the Grinch to "delegate" who they go to, correct?

 

[tbone717]

Just so I'm clear on this, if the delegates are released, there isn't any loophole which would allow the Grinch to "delegate" who they go to, correct?

Not a loophold per se, but if the delegates are known by the Newt campaign to be genuine Newt supporters (and not merely Paul supporters bound to Newt) he could contact them and ask them to support Romney for the nomination upon his withdraw. With enough commitments in GA and in other states, Santorum and Newt can give Romney more than enough delegates to secure the nomination on the first ballot, and this would be known well in advance of the convention.

 

[tsai3904]

Yeah apparently the precinct meeting on Feb. 18th was for large counties. I got called about becoming a delegate and I signed up to show up on March 10th 'cause I live in a smaller county, but I haven't received any details about what to do from here.

I haven't heard anything about a 'nominating committee', so yeah, what's that?

Are you still unclear of what to do? Contact someone here: http://ga4ronpaul.com/Contact.aspx

 

[ichirix]

Bound for two rounds, unless candidate withdraws or releases them. So yes, the scenario above is true, though it should be noted that GA is proportional, so a newt win would still mean at least some bound delegates for the other three candidates.

Unless Santorum/Romney don't hit 20% which is very possible.

 

[Keith and stuff]

I don't know guys, the latest polls show Paul at 3%, 5% and 7% in GA. I wonder if he is just unpopular or if he is actually disliked by almost all GOP voters in GA. I mean, I just didn't expect to see polls with Paul at 3% at this point in time. It looks like he is getting less popular in GA. I cannot figure out how Paul could get most of Gingrich's delegates with support so low.