If we could buy 1000 acres or more, who would join us?

[Carlybee]

Depends on what part of the desert. Arizona has some fine rivers and folks have built very good dams and such. Droughts take their toll like anywhere else, but farmers around here are good at what they do. If there are rivers, it's doable.

I guess it would depend on what part. I grew up in the west Texas desert so I'm fairly familiar, but doesn't Arizona get 115 degrees in the summer?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

That explains how Arizona came to be known as the breadbasket of the nation.

I never made such a claim, smartass.

 

[Carlybee]

Not a bad area, it's on the Cumberland Plateau so that's a good thing. A bit close to Chattanooga and the population issues that could bring in a SHTF; and it's not a dry county, so that's nice. It's a semi-dry county, so no liquor buying on Sundays.

In a SHTF you might get foot traffic off of I-24 and US-64

I don't drink so no biggie about that to me. What areas does the Cumberland Plateau encompass?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I guess it would depend on what part. I grew up in the west Texas desert so I'm fairly familiar, but doesn't Arizona get 115 degrees in the summer?

yeah, 115 is common. Citrus do well in it.

 

[Carlybee]

ock Spring Ridge is located on Keith Springs Mountain in Franklin County just outside Winchester Tennessee. Scenic views, creeks, and streams are just a few of the natural amenities spread across the large parcel. The topography of this acreage allows for long range mountain views of the Cumberland Plateau and beautiful creek gorges. With a total of 4,800 acres and an abundance of wildlife, this is an exceptional hunting and recreation tract with endless potential at only $1,275 per acre. Power is available close to the entrance of the property.

I could live there, no problem.

I think there are some very pretty parts of Tennessee...not sure about how liberty friendly. I do remember Tennessee had the roving xray vehicles.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

This is in Phoenix, believe it or not:

 

[eduardo89]

I think there are some very pretty parts of Tennessee...not sure about how liberty friendly. I do remember Tennessee had the roving xray vehicles.

Tennessee is beautiful:

The beauty of West Tennessee:

 

[Carlybee]

This is in Phoenix, believe it or not:

And this is Texas

 

[Tod]

I don't drink so no biggie about that to me. What areas does the Cumberland Plateau encompass?

If you type

Cumberland Plateau, TN

into google map, it shows it stretching across TN, SW to NE along the western side of the Appalachian Mtns, about midway between Nashville & Chattanooga.

 

[Carlybee]

If you type

Cumberland Plateau, TN

into google map, it shows it stretching across TN, SW to NE along the western side of the Appalachian Mtns, about midway between Nashville & Chattanooga.

Got it, thanks.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

It reaches into Alabama and up into KY also. I'd stick with the plateau in TN and KY though. As long as you stay away from the major Interstates, most of the Cumberland Plateau will be protected from foot traffic if the SHTF, by simple geography. I was actually looking at KY just a county or 2 away from the VA border as a well protected spot.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

The yellow area:

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Um, if you want to do something like this, the obvious choices would be Alaska #1, Montana/Wyoming #2, and the Dakota's #3. Low per capita population with rough geography which makes it difficult for any invading force. I don't see how any state beats Alaska for its sheer low pop per capita, insane amount of untraveled wilderness / ability to go incognito, and hard to reach geographically. Of course, those things mean it is a bit more difficult to live with the same quality of life, but if SHTF you'd probably have a higher QOF than most places in the country.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Um, if you want to do something like this, the obvious choices would be Alaska #1, Montana/Wyoming #2, and the Dakota's #3. Low per capita population with rough geography which makes it difficult for any invading force. I don't see how any state beats Alaska for its sheer low pop per capita, insane amount of untraveled wilderness / ability to go incognito, and hard to reach geographically. Of course, those things mean it is a bit more difficult to live with the same quality of life, but if SHTF you'd probably have a higher QOF than most places in the country.

Thus my chained bugouts. Primary Cumberland Plateau, Secondary Lakota Wyoming, Tertiary Alaska. All depending on duration and severity of the crisis, as well as the kind of crisis.

 

[Origanalist]

I think there are some very pretty parts of Tennessee...not sure about how liberty friendly. I do remember Tennessee had the roving xray vehicles.

I missed the whole roving x-ray thing. Disturbing, it really never ends does it?

 

[Keith and stuff]

Um, if you want to do something like this, the obvious choices would be Alaska #1, Montana/Wyoming #2, and the Dakota's #3. Low per capita population with rough geography which makes it difficult for any invading force. I don't see how any state beats Alaska for its sheer low pop per capita, insane amount of untraveled wilderness / ability to go incognito, and hard to reach geographically. Of course, those things mean it is a bit more difficult to live with the same quality of life, but if SHTF you'd probably have a higher QOF than most places in the country.

Invading force? Are you serious? The most obvious example is NH because it was selected by the FSP. If SHTF is your main concern, AK would be a bad place to be due to the extreme isolation and bad weather. Joel Skousen covers this well in Strategic Relocation.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I missed the whole roving x-ray thing. Disturbing, it really never ends does it?

I think DHS picked TN as their testbed for rollouts when they passed Firearms Freedom. Which is why I was looking at KY more.

 

[oyarde]

It reaches into Alabama and up into KY also. I'd stick with the plateau in TN and KY though. As long as you stay away from the major Interstates, most of the Cumberland Plateau will be protected from foot traffic if the SHTF, by simple geography. I was actually looking at KY just a county or 2 away from the VA border as a well protected spot.

If you end up there , let me know, I would be a bit Northwest of you.

 

[Carlybee]

Not really interested in going off grid in the wilderness. Just want a place with some privacy and to hopefully be left alone, yet close enough to get medical attention, supplies, etc. Assuming we will prepare for shtf scenario as best we can.

 

[opal]

Not really interested in going off grid in the wilderness. Just want a place with some privacy and to hopefully be left alone, yet close enough to get medical attention, supplies, etc. Assuming we will prepare for shtf scenario as best we can.

right there with ya.. but if off grid means having an independent power source.. that's cool too