If Rand Paul Loses GOP Primary, What Will You Do?

What will you do on election day?


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I see no benefit to staying home.



Why not? If nobody had supported Ron Paul, would we be better off?
When no pro liberty people vote, a pro tyranny candidate will win every time. When pro liberty people vote, we sometimes win. Voting for liberty candidates is an obvious conclusion.

Getting all those nonvoters to vote for liberty is not an option. It will cost a billion dollars to buy their votes. And the people who can spend that billion dollars don't want to spend it on liberty for the rest of us.
 
Chuck is awesome! I don't know much about Castle either, I would imagine he's similar though.
Maybe Baldwin would run if enough people want him to? I'm still bummed that I was not old enough to vote for him in 2008.:(

Me too, and I was too young to vote in 2012, which means I'll never get the chance to vote for Ron Paul.
 
William Tell Limbaughs: Apathy is essentially consent. Most people do not vote in most elections. If those who did not vote actually cared, they could take the country back.

:eek::rolleyes:

(What an absolutely stoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopid statement!! Intelligent people don't 'vote' because they don't want to affirm/encourage the gd puppet creeps you Republicrats place on the stinking phony ballots...btw, if you 'cared' enough to learn even a little REALITY about your stinking money system, etc., you wouldn't be playing the fool, voting for/affirming Republicrat peckerheads every stinking ($)election..) ;)

Btw, i apologize to others for my bad humor, but this obvious Republican shill, William Troll, has been following me around, neg. repping me, like a typical Republicrat snotty fink...i'm sure he's done it others too!)

I don't think Will is telling you to vote GOP. Just to vote. Its one thing to say that not voting is a better tactic for liberty, and that's a valid argument to make. But disagreeing on that doesn't make you a GOP shill.

Me too, and I was too young to vote in 2012, which means I'll never get the chance to vote for Ron Paul.

Me either...
 
I don't think Will is telling you to vote GOP. Just to vote. Its one thing to say that not voting is a better tactic for liberty, and that's a valid argument to make. But disagreeing on that doesn't make you a GOP shill.
He can do as he likes, I promote voting for people I consider liberty candidates, regardless of party. I have seen very significant elections won by a margin of a few hundred votes. I would certainly like it for everyone to vote for good candidates.

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that the liberty movement is better off because of Ron Paul being elected to congress. And later running for president.
 
Awww, sorry to hear that. My vote for Ron Paul in 2012 was my very first vote! :D

Well, if I was old enough to vote in 2012 I might not have voted for him. I liked some things he said but it wasn't until the general election came that I realized that the Republicans weren't the answer. I think I came to this realization during one of the debates when either Romney or Ryan said that we weren't spending enough on our military. I then thought to myself "this is hypocritical, you attack Obama over the deficit, but then demand that he spend more?" Then the whole issue of cutting funding for Sesame Street came up and I realized that Romney was going after that because he doesn't plan on cutting spending anywhere else. Of course, it was not all my own journey, FreedomFanatic helped me along on another forum.
 
He can do as he likes, I promote voting for people I consider liberty candidates, regardless of party. I have seen very significant elections won by a margin of a few hundred votes. I would certainly like it for everyone to vote for good candidates.

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that the liberty movement is better off because of Ron Paul being elected to congress. And later running for president.

I agree with you but I think that's mostly because Ron Paul was primarily an educator and only a politician second. I am honestly uncertain how much difference other libertarian-leaning conservatives, who are not as philosophically consistet as Ron and are not primarily concerned with educating, will make for the liberty movement. That said, I'm willing to give it a shot (to a point). The choice between voting and staying home gets even trickier when the only semi-principled candidates are third party candidates without any real chance to win. I tend to think its better to vote for a good candidate regardless, but I can see why one would argue that not voting and thus not acknowledging the system would be better. Its primarily a strategic question.

I think that if pro-voting libertarians and anti-voting libertarians would both be nicer to each other, we'd be better off.
 
No option for "dig a big heavily fortified hole and get into it with ammo and food and wait" couldn't answer the poll.

Well I voted "Vote third party" because that's what I'll do while digging my bunker. ;) Actually I would seriously start looking offshore.
 
You don't have my option..."Leave the country".

I'll probably look into options that begin expatriating the wife and myself. Although I may try New Hampshire first.
 
Some of us do, and are. :)

If you are the one getting these lists and those of us out there winning the hearts and minds of actual Republicans aren't, then I am sad to say that calls into serious question the judgement of Rothfeld Inc.

Dear Friends in Liberty,

Our R3VOLUTION is growing by leaps and bounds!


Today, I’d like to endorse – and urge you to vote for – Representative Glen Bradley for North Carolina State Senate District 18 in the May 8 Republican Primary.


Like you, Glen firmly believes in our founding principles of individual liberty, free markets, sound money, and constitutional government.


A Marine Corps veteran, he’s never once wavered in his convictions during his time in the State House – even when it meant standing against his own Party.


When Washington bureaucrats attempted to take over our entire food industry, Representative Bradley fought against them by introducing the Farmer’s Freedom Protection Act.


On every single issue – from guns to taxes to unnecessary regulations on small businesses to REAL ID – Representative Bradley has courageously fought Washington’s attempts to force federal rules and regulations on the good folks in North Carolina.


In fact, because of his efforts, he’s considered one of the leading advocates for using the Tenth Amendment to block federal regulations.


He’s also considered one of the leading advocates for sound money in the country, introducing legislation in North Carolina to allow silver and gold to once again be legal tender and speaking out on this issue on national TV.


If you agree that we need more principled men and women like Representative Bradley in office, then I hope you’ll agree to vote for Glen – and make a generous donation to his State Senate campaign if you can.


Glen doesn’t have – nor want – the special interest lobby funding his campaign.


He’s not a career politician. In fact, Glen was never involved in politics at all before he was inspired by my 2008 presidential run.


Instead, Glen is a true Patriot who is fed up with the corruption in government – and wants to do something about it.


And since the special interest lobby knows he’s running to put the brakes on their Big Government gravy train, you can be sure they’re going all out to defeat him during the upcoming May 8 Republican Primary.


That’s why Glenn is counting on good folks like you – who truly value individual liberty and freedom – to help him lead the fight against Big Government in the North Carolina State Senate.


You can do that by voting for Glen in the May 8 Republican Primary – and by contributing to his campaign.


Like Glen, I know what it’s like to take on the entire political establishment.


I’ve been doing it for more than 30 years now.


I’m confident that – with the help and support of folks like you – Glen has a great chance of becoming the next State Senator in District 18.


So please, help Glen fight the political establishment by voting for him for the State Senate on May 8 and by making a generous donation to his campaign.


You won’t be disappointed you did!


For Liberty,

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Ron Paul


P.S. I’m proud to endorse Representative Glen Bradley’s campaign for State Senate, and I hope you’ll vote for him in the Tuesday, May 8 Republican primary and make a generous contribution to his campaign.


Glen firmly believes in our founding principles of individual liberty, free markets, sound money, and constitutional government.
 
Unless Cruz is the nominee, then I will focus more on some of the likely rematches (Greg Brannon, Chris McDaniel).
 
Why would you ever need permission? That's not the issue at all.

There were people in 2012 who made it sound like you couldn't be part of the liberty movement if you voted for Romney in the general election. There were rank and file Republicans who made it sound like you couldn't be part of the Republican Party if you didn't vote for Romney in the general election. That's what I'm talking about, all of these ultimatums, that either you vote for a certain candidate or you get kicked out of a certain group you belong to.
 
This is the best question/poll that I have seen asked on these forums.

If Rand does fail, despite all his efforts to court the GOP base, then what are we?

Even if people vote for another GOP candidate, swear they will only vote 3rd party, want nothing to do with politics anymore, or decide to move outside of the country, there is still going to be a strong voice for liberty that exists, possibly scattered to the wind, but still intact. I'm very curious what that voice is going to do or be.
 
And I want Cynthia McKinney in the Democratic Party debates in 2015-16.

Assuming that you are not being sarcastic, yes, that would be awesome. It's too bad Elizabeth Warren decided not to run. It would be hilarious and insanely entertaining at the same time, to see the corporate sponsored, beloved Democrat and savior to all women in the world Hilary, taken down a few pegs by her own party and her own sex. Indefensible.
 
William Tell writes: Awww, sorry to hear that. My vote for Ron Paul in 2012 was my very first vote!

:eek:

(good grief!...now i'm ashamed for intellectually abusing children!!.. and how can i find fault with you?..when i was your age i voted for the gd Republican puppet fool Reagan!..and your neg. reps. at least prove that you read me...keep that up..and thanks for the readership!)
 
I have voted Libertarian in every election. Though I would vote for Scott Walker and perhaps Ted Cruz if they were the nominee (and not feel great about it.)
 
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