IDF ANNOUNCES ANNEXATION OF THE GAZA STRIP

[Snowball]

IDF ANNOUNCES ANNEXATION OF THE GAZA STRIP

PALESTINIANS IN GAZA MUST "RELEASE THE HOSTAGES AND EXPEL HAMAS" OR FACE "UTTER DESTRUCTION AND DEVASTATION"

IF THE PALESTINIANS OF GAZA DO THIS, "THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE FOR ANOTHER COUNTRY"

Katz: Israel To Begin Annexing Gaza - News From Antiwar.com

Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz said that the IDF will begin annexing parts of the Gaza Strip. President Donald Trump and Israeli officials have discussed expelling the Palestinians from the Strip. “I have instructed the IDF to seize additional areas in Gaza, while evacuating the...

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UNITED STATES SENDS SECOND AIRCRAFT CARRIER STRIKE GROUP, USS CARL VINSON FROM PACIFIC TO MIDDLE EAST

EN ROUTE NOW - KNOCKOUT BLOWS AGAINST HOUTHI REGIME EXPECTED

Hegseth beefs up Middle East warship presence with 2 aircraft carriers

The defense secretary has ordered the carriers Carl Vinson and Harry S. Truman to be in the region as the U.S. increases strikes on Houthi rebels.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Intrepid]

Wait. You mean it wasn't about taking out Hamas after all??

 

[Snowball]

Wait. You mean it wasn't about taking out Hamas after all??

Of course not. Adam Boehler said Hamas wanted a deal and was ready to recognize Israel and lay down the fight entirely, even STEPPING DOWN from all political leadership or even existing.

He lost his job for it. Right on CNN he said this. It infuriated Netanyahu because Netanyahu needs Hamas to justify the scam.
Trump played along, of course, and canned him.

US envoy ‘sidelined’ by Trump after CNN interview on direct US–Hamas talks: Report

Israeli officials lambasted the envoy, who was negotiating to release US-Israeli captives after he called Hamas officials ‘nice guys’ in an interview

thecradle.co

 

[TheTexan]

Of course not. Adam Boehler said Hamas wanted a deal and was ready to recognize Israel and lay down the fight entirely, even STEPPING DOWN from all political leadership or even existing.

I watched the CNN interview that he got fired for, and he didn't say any of that. Source?

 

[nikcers]

I don't see how this is controversial. In war the loser pays. That's how many states became part of the USA. They attacked us and we fought them off and took the territory for compensation.


I don't even think that works on a personal level. If your neighbor attacks you and tries to kill you, are you going to let them live there?

I don't even know does Rand Paul's neighbor who attacked him still live next door to him? He almost died.

Rene Boucher sells his home and still owes Rand Paul more than $100,000

The neighbor convicted of attacking U.S. Sen. Rand Paul has sold his home next door to the senator.

www.wbko.com

 

[spudea]

Eliminate the enemy, secure the land from the threat. Same thing that happens in every war in history.

 

[Snowball]

I watched the CNN interview that he got fired for, and he didn't say any of that. Source?

Imagine if the below took place instead of what's happening?
That's why Netanyahu told Trump this guy is not with the program (genocide and displacement).
And they immediately went forward with the massacres and invasion.

March 9 2025
2:30 timestamp
"you could see something like a long-term truce, where we forgive prisoners, where Hamas lays down their arms, where they agree they are not part of the political party going forward, I think that's a reality that is real close."

3:13 timestamp

"Israeli official Ron Dermer strongly discouraged you from meetig with Hamas He said it was a tense phone call."

"Do you understand why Netayahu, Dermer, others might be upset?"

3:35 timestamp

"The don't have horns growing out of their head. (Hamas). They're actually guys like us. They're pretty nice guys."

3:55 timestamp

"We're the United States. We're not an engine of Israel. We have specific interests at play."

4:08 timestamp

"What I wanted to do was jumpstart some negotiations that were in a very fragile place. And I wanted to say to Hamas - what is the end game that you want here? Not the dream end game, but what do you think is realistic at this point..."

4:30 timestamp

"it was a very helpful meeting"

4:40 timestamp

"I think Israel knows walking out of that, you know, it's not like Hamas got the world because I think they were a bunch of nice guys"

4:49 timestamp

"I think something could come together within weeks"
"Where they could get all the prisoners out, not just the Americans"

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/09/politics/video/sotu-hostage-envoy-adam-boehler-says-us-could-strike-deal-with-hamas-in-weeks

"A senior Hamas official suggested that the terrorist organization would recognize Israel" 12/14/23

Top Hamas official suggests recognizing Israel, following official PLO stance

It Is Not Clear if Abu Marzouk's Stance as Portrayed in an Interview With Al-Monitor Represents the Organization's Position. He Also Justified the Oct 7 Hamas Attack and Said It Achieved the Organization's Goals: 'Everyone Is Talking About the Palestinian Cause'

www.haaretz.com

"The Palestinian militant group Hamas has said for more than 15 years that it could accept a two-state compromise with Israel" 4/25/24

Hamas again raises the possibility of a 2-state compromise. Israel and its allies aren't convinced

The Palestinian militant group Hamas has said for more than 15 years that it could accept a two-state compromise with Israel — at least, a temporary one.

apnews.com

then, this happened: (and 700 and rising dead Palestinians)

Adam Boehler withdraws nomination to be Trump’s top hostage negotiator

"Adam Boehler will continue to serve President Trump as a special government employee focused on hostage negotiations,” a White House spokesperson told The Post.

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[TheTexan]

Imagine if the below took place instead of what's happening?
That's why Netanyahu told Trump this guy is not with the program (genocide and displacement).
And they immediately went forward with the massacres and invasion.

March 9 2025
2:30 timestamp
"you could see something like a long-term truce, where we forgive prisoners, where Hamas lays down their arms, where they agree they are not part of the political party going forward, I think that's a reality that is real close."

3:13 timestamp

"Israeli official Ron Dermer strongly discouraged you from meetig with Hamas He said it was a tense phone call."

"Do you understand why Netayahu, Dermer, others might be upset?"

3:35 timestamp

"The don't have horns growing out of their head. (Hamas). They're actually guys like us. They're pretty nice guys."

3:55 timestamp

"We're the United States. We're not an engine of Israel. We have specific interests at play."

4:08 timestamp

"What I wanted to do was jumpstart some negotiations that were in a very fragile place. And I wanted to say to Hamas - what is the end game that you want here? Not the dream end game, but what do you think is realistic at this point..."

4:30 timestamp

"it was a very helpful meeting"

4:40 timestamp

"I think Israel knows walking out of that, you know, it's not like Hamas got the world because I think they were a bunch of nice guys"

4:49 timestamp

"I think something could come together within weeks"
"Where they could get all the prisoners out, not just the Americans"

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/09/politics/video/sotu-hostage-envoy-adam-boehler-says-us-could-strike-deal-with-hamas-in-weeks

"A senior Hamas official suggested that the terrorist organization would recognize Israel" 12/14/23

Top Hamas official suggests recognizing Israel, following official PLO stance

It Is Not Clear if Abu Marzouk's Stance as Portrayed in an Interview With Al-Monitor Represents the Organization's Position. He Also Justified the Oct 7 Hamas Attack and Said It Achieved the Organization's Goals: 'Everyone Is Talking About the Palestinian Cause'

www.haaretz.com

"The Palestinian militant group Hamas has said for more than 15 years that it could accept a two-state compromise with Israel" 4/25/24

Hamas again raises the possibility of a 2-state compromise. Israel and its allies aren't convinced

The Palestinian militant group Hamas has said for more than 15 years that it could accept a two-state compromise with Israel — at least, a temporary one.

apnews.com

then, this happened: (and 700 and rising dead Palestinians)

Adam Boehler withdraws nomination to be Trump’s top hostage negotiator

"Adam Boehler will continue to serve President Trump as a special government employee focused on hostage negotiations,” a White House spokesperson told The Post.

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Even the articles you linked say they don't want peace. Temporary cease fires is not peace. Exchanges of prisoners is not peace. Even a two state solution does not mean peace.

Peace means recognition of Israel, and giving up claims to Jerusalem, which I have not seen ANY evidence that they have any intentions of doing.

 

[nikcers]

Ok so he is full of shit.

"The Palestinian militant group Hamas has said for more than 15 years that it could accept a two-state compromise"

That's the exact quote of the guy. Not sure why you would accept this as fact.

So if you claim that they now would accept and recognize Israel and that there could be a lasting ceasefire but the exact quote is that "they "could" accept a compromise in which they recognize Israel and they have for 15 years."

They also agreed to a certain ceasefire and then massacred a peace concert on October 7th.

This would be like interviewing Rand Paul's crazy neighbor after he almost killed him and him saying he could have been a peaceful neighbor for the last 15 years.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Prime seaside real estate. No other explanation necessary.

Evict, demolish, redevelop.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

...

Some facts are discernable. It certainly seems that much of northern Gaza has been demolished, all ready for redevelopment. Seaside property is extra valuable when it has gas reserves right off the coast...

Why would Palestinians be allowed back into Northern Gaza? It's prime seaside real estate ready to be redeveloped by Netanyahu Real Estate...

 

[Invisible Man]

Does annexing the Gaza Strip mean giving its population representation in the Knesset?

If not, then what else will be done with them?

 

[Snowball]

Does annexing the Gaza Strip mean giving its population representation in the Knesset?

If not, then what else will be done with them?

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[spudea]

Just like our

Prime seaside real estate. No other explanation necessary.

Evict, demolish, redevelop.

Just like our nations founding plus our expansion west. When natives attacked, they were massacred and evicted. Pretty sure most of natives were upset at the time. We don't have to apologize, and neither does Israel. Hamas had a choice when Israel withdrew from the Gaza strip, develop the land and live peacefully, but they chose to turn it into a base of weapons to attack Israel. Any innocent civilians have had plenty of chances to leave peacefully.

 

[spudea]

Does annexing the Gaza Strip mean giving its population representation in the Knesset?

If not, then what else will be done with them?

For that there would have to be some kind of political and social reconciliation, which they will continue to refuse as they have for hundreds of years. So Israel will control the land and turn it into a reservation for those that refuse to leave, not much different than the reservations we have here for native Indians. They can be allowed some freedom and autonomy as long as they are peaceful and do not threaten Israel. When the Jewish hatred that permeates their culture and identity is defeated, they can be brought into the Knesset.

 

[nikcers]

Does annexing the Gaza Strip mean giving its population representation in the Knesset?

If not, then what else will be done with them?

The same thing that happens under a failed state when you lose a war.

The territory becomes forfeit and the people are forced to surrender or seek asylum elsewhere.

Under surrender the victor in war gets to impose their will.

With Imperial Japan we imposed democracy on Japan. We forced them to write a constitution and make the emperor a ceremonial role. We forced them to disarm.

Of course this sort of thing goes against UN principles but that system only works because we didn't allow bad actors like Imperial Japan to be part of it.

 

[acptulsa]

Good God, the Zionists are staging a Jihad -- not only in Gaza but right here on this forum.

Yo, Zionists. I don't want to pay for Israeli imperialism. How the fuck do I opt out?

 

[nikcers]

Good God, the Zionists are staging a Jihad -- not only in Gaza but right here on this forum.

Yo, Zionists. I don't want to pay for Israeli imperialism. How the fuck do I opt out?

Overthrow democracy and become dictator or leave the country like Rosie O'Donnell.

Otherwise our democratic republic is going to keep doing what they believe is in our interests. You can't serve two masters.

 

[acptulsa]

Overthrow democracy and become dictator or leave the country like Rosie O'Donnell.

No, I don't think I'll do either. I think I'll continue trying to get the democratic republic to serve its proper master -- us -- not Israel.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Good God, the Zionists are staging a Jihad -- not only in Gaza but right here on this forum.

Yo, Zionists. I don't want to pay for Israeli imperialism. How the fuck do I opt out?

The Ten Commandments are a living document.

Thus: "Thou shalt covet thy neighbor's house, evict or kill thy neighbor, and then take his house."