Idea: Paul-Kucinich debate tour

[NewEnd]

Huh?

Kucinich = gun-grabber, pro-illegal alien, pro big government. Basically, he's a socialist.

The ONLY thing I see that Kucinich and Paul have in common is that they are both against the Iraq war.

That doesn't matter. Hes honest, like Paul, and Ron Paul has said Kucinich is the only other nominee he likes.

And also, not just the Iraq war, but also against illegal wiretapping and such.

Alot of you people sound just like the mindless democrats that hate Paul over some small issues, but are missing hte bigger picture. Foreign policy is the prime responsibility of the president, and the most important.

 

[winston_blade]

Kucinich who? I have a better chance of winning the Presidency than he does. No thank you.

 

[winston_blade]

That doesn't matter. Hes honest, like Paul, and Ron Paul has said Kucinich is the only other nominee he likes.

And also, not just the Iraq war, but also against illegal wiretapping and such.

Alot of you people sound just like the mindless democrats that hate Paul over some small issues, but are missing hte bigger picture. Foreign policy is the prime responsibility of the president, and the most important.

Socialism is no small issue. It will change everything.

 

[JMann]

Why do we see pro-Kucinich stuff here every three or four days trying to tie him to Ron Paul? Other than the fact they both want out of Iraq and Kucinich is a friendly Socialist as Paul has a friendly approach to his libertarianism the two have nothing in common.

 

[SeanEdwards]

I've always wondered if Ron Paul doesn't agree with this position. Ron Paul is all about ensuring that the government fulfills its commitments.

That's a can of worms I hope stays closed.

I'd bet every cent I own that Paul does not support slavery reparations. What could be more collectivist thinking than that? Make a bunch of non-slave-owners pay a bunch of non-slaves.

Would white people be the only ones taxed to pay for these reparations? Which black people would get the reparations? Will Bill Cosby, Michael Jordan, and Russell Simmons be handed tax money taken from middle-class white people? What about black people who emigrated to the US from the carribean in the past 50 years and who were never slaves, do they qualify for the gravy train too?

And as far as government committments, isn't 600,00 dead union soldiers enough of a reparation for Al Sharpton?

This reparation idea is the best idea I've ever heard of for inflaming racial tension and hatred.

 

[RevolutionSD]

I like Kucinich, and he's a good guy, unlike the rest of the democrats running. He's also a good speaker. I don't like a lot of his ideas. A Kucinich/Paul debate would be interesting.

Imagine how much more substantial this would be than these circuses we have had so far?

I don't think it would hurt Paul. As long as it was covered by one of the major networks, it would be good publicity.

 

[RevolutionSD]

I'd bet every cent I own that Paul does not support slavery reparations. What could be more collectivist thinking than that? Make a bunch of non-slave-owners pay a bunch of non-slaves.

Would white people be the only ones taxed to pay for these reparations? Which black people would get the reparations? Real dark-skinned ones, or all? What about black people who emigrated to the US from the carribean in the past 50 years and who were never slaves, do they qualify for the gravy train too?

And as far as government committments, isn't 600,00 dead union soldiers enough of a reparation for Al Sharpton?

This reparation idea is the best idea I've ever heard of for inflaming racial tension and hatred.

Of course Paul would not be for slavery reparations!
Might as well start writing checks to all the countries we've messed with in the past too! This would be complete collectivism and the opposite of what RP stands for.

 

[NewEnd]

It seems to me, alot of people are afraid somehow kucinich's ideas would beat Paul. Paul would win hands down, and would really be able to bring many socialist/apologists etc into our fold. Many people support Kucinish because he is a left wing Ron Paul. He is honest, decent, and speaks his mind... and gets elected.

A Kucinich?paul debate would be substantive, full of ideas, and philosophies, it would not be an act of caution, where every word is watched, so as to not offend anyone. In the end, it would be very positive for America.

Also, admittedly, Ron Paul is not perfect. He has some positions, which simply are no trealistic, and I think everyone, deep down, knows it.

Many Kucinich supporters will be homeless if Hillary wins the nomination.

 

[VoteRonPaul2008]

I think all the pro-Kucinich..should convert to Paul supporters.. and I don't like the idea of a debate either.. Kucinich went drove Cleaveland to bankruptcy..

I'm far to the left so Kucinich matches my views.. but I can't wouldn't vote for him with his background he already flipped flopped on abortion

I'm all for and only for Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NewEnd]

I think all the pro-Kucinich..should convert to Paul supporters.. and I don't like the idea of a debate either.. Kucinich went drove Cleaveland to bankruptcy..

I'm far to the left so Kucinich matches my views.. but I can't wouldn't vote for him with his background he already flipped flopped on abortion

I'm all for and only for Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How would they convert? BTW, do not underestimate his supporters, I saw their power in the caucuses... they were very influential during 2004. They really got alot mroe votes than they should have, simply by knowing what they were doing.

A tour would be bad.. too much time, btu a debate would be awesome, IMHO.

 

[NewEnd]

As a matter of fact, I think any 1 on 1 debate with Paul would be great.

Perhaps even an informercial 30 minute debates, that we pay for. It would be honest, and watched.

Or maybe even a PAC, since the debates would not directly be an endorsement for Paul*





*allthough they would, I have no doubt in his debating skills.

 

[Energy]

Whether it's Paul vs Kucinich or whoever, I think the big point is not being at the mercy of old media. Why do we have to put up with CNN/Democrats and Fox/Republicans and their 30-second limits and rigged audiences? As for 1-on-1, who the hell is brave enough to pit against Paul besides Kucinich?

The youtube debates is a step in the right direction. Many major news programs are featuring mega-popular YouTube links now. I can see the media putting the youtube debates on msnbc and other news channels.

 

[Dan D.]

Any single 1-1 debate would be good. A tour of them would waste too much time I think, and frankly, an opportunity for a 1-1 debate should not be wasted on Dennis Kucinich. It should be against Giuliani, Romney, Clinton, or Obama. Failing that, Edwards or Huckabee, who I think have the best chances in Iowa.

 

[NewEnd]

Any single 1-1 debate would be good. A tour of them would waste too much time I think, and frankly, an opportunity for a 1-1 debate should not be wasted on Dennis Kucinich. It should be against Giuliani, Romney, Clinton, or Obama. Failing that, Edwards or Huckabee, who I think have the best chances in Iowa.

It would not be wasted on Kucinich. the best one would be with Kucinich. Huckabee would probably be the only other candidate to accept, besides some of the no-names like hunter or tancredo. (which WOULD be a waste)

 

[Electric Church]

lousy idea. Paul's ready to go for the juggler of the number 1 contender not some sparring exhibition with a bottom ranked unknown.

 

[PredatorOC]

I went through Kucinich's positions out of curiosity. Now, I've always considered Kucinich as a tolerable, honest politician. But after going through the issues on his site, I have to say that he is essentially a populist. A lot of promises. He wants to fight poverty worldwide? That one really reduced my respect for him (since direct aid rarely helps and the problems are too complex).

 

[Triton]

Someone at reddit posted a very good idea here



Thoughts? I think it is a GREAT idea and would as the poster said, would draw huge crowds and bring attention to the real issues America faces.

Why in the world would ANYONE think it would be a good idea to elevate Kucinich (and lower Paul) by putting them together? Come ON people, THINK! I swear there are moles here.

Kucinich may be well-meaning, but he is the ENEMY.

 

[Chibioz]

Seems like most people are quick to put this idea down. Some contend that it's a bad idea to debate because they disagree on some things.. isn't that why it would be a good debate?

 

[SeanEdwards]

Seems like most people are quick to put this idea down. Some contend that it's a bad idea to debate because they disagree on some things.. isn't that why it would be a good debate?

No, it would be bad because Kucinich is a nobody flake loser. A debate between Paul and Kucinich would elevate Kucinich, and marginalize Paul. We should be trying to push debates between Paul and the front runners, not debates with UFO watching gun grabbing troll-looking freakazoids.

 

[FreedomLover]

Almost as dumb as the Paul-Gravel 08 ticket idea.

This would basically cement the idea in everyone's mind that Rp is a kook, if he's traveling around with Kucinich, who is a complete joke.