I Shrugged-John Stossel (file this under"with friends like this.....")
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helmuth_hubener
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Man, he is just not going to let this go! Stossel, Stossel, Stossel. What are you doing?
He truly has failed on this issue. I'm not going to throw him under the bus, he's still a libertarian and one of the good guys, but boy! This kind of stuff makes a guy wonder.
He truly has failed on this issue. I'm not going to throw him under the bus, he's still a libertarian and one of the good guys, but boy! This kind of stuff makes a guy wonder.
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I basically agree with Stossel but I do wish he would stop bringing it up. He is beating a dead horse.
I don't understand why people are so quick to jump on Stossel's throat. He is great spokesman for libertarianism. He should get a little respect. He was doing specials on libertarian ideals on a popular show long before there was a libertarian audience.
I don't understand why people are so quick to jump on Stossel's throat. He is great spokesman for libertarianism. He should get a little respect. He was doing specials on libertarian ideals on a popular show long before there was a libertarian audience.
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I am so mixed. IMO, Stossel wrote perhaps 1 of the best books to introduce people to libertarianism and he has spoken very highly of New Hampshire and the Free State Project many times. On the other hand, he is nuts in this area 
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Which one? I've never read any of his books, but he has a bunch of them, I think.
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His best and least expensive book is fantastic IMO. Used for as low as 1 cent plus shipping. I recommend getting it from http://amazonus.freetalklive.com Give Me a Break: How I Exposed Hucksters, Cheats, and Scam Artists and Became the Scourge of the Liberal Media...
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He has always been on fox business channel (foxes secondary channel), not on fox news channel. Last week after his show about the nsa whistle blowing was aired on fox business, it was air on fox news. I don't think any of his shows has ever aired on fox news before to the best of my knowledge. Paycheck.
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Keith and stuff
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He has had plenty of his shows air on ABC in prime time and plenty of other shows air on Fox News.
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My mistake then, i've never seen his on fox news, while browsing the onscreen guide.
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I don't know, reading the comments over at "Townhall", clearly Fox News territory most of them aren't buying it.
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Do you mean they aren't buying the "nsa is good" rhetoric or Stossel is suddenly one of them?
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They aren't buying his line that the nsa's spying is not worthy of outrage. In fact, I'm quite surprised at the level of support for him there still, after the talking heads turned on him.
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It seems to me that he's not supporting the NSA so much as saying he doesn't think it's that big a deal compared to all the other stuff the government does - of course I disagree with him there, but I really don't think this is worth all the comments lambasting him for being a charlatan either. I don't agree with Stossel all the time, but he's not someone who fits the profile of speaking libertarian rhetoric just so he can draw them toward some larger anti-libertarian policies.
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The NSA must have some good dirt on him. Why else would a libertarian abandon libertarian principles on an issue as cut and dry as NSA spying?
Is Stossel a fraud? Or does he have some serious skeletons in his closet?
It has to be one or the either.
Is Stossel a fraud? Or does he have some serious skeletons in his closet?
It has to be one or the either.
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Well, the FOX News Senior Judicial Analyst, Judge Nap has taken him to task for his views. What does that say?
Judge Andrew Napolitano
with Brian Wilson
June 20, 2013
http://www.libertasmediaproject.com/archive.html
In the latest "Judging Freedom" podcast, Brian and Judge Andrew Napolitano analyze Privacy, John Stossel and Edward Snowden.
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Uh huh and he is brushing off the government monitoring our every move. That in no way is libertarian. Heck, I'm a paleocon and the government spying on us is definitely NOT ok.
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I've read two of his books and watched him for years. He is a libertarian and is slipping on this one issue. He is a defender of capitalism which means he is not a Nader type.
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It says the Judge is awesome. I can't think of anything else, to many beers tonight. very happy
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You make an interesting point. Stossel lives in Manhattan, last I heard, the least free place in the US. Maybe there is something too it not being a big deal to him personally.
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