"I Never Said Mexico Would Pay for The Wall"

[Ender]

Dude, you need to shut the $#@! up and listen for a change instead of yappity yapping..

Trump said hundreds of times on the campaign trail that Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

He said dozens of times on the campaign trail that Mexico would pay for the wall "some how", through trade deals or something.

Those are NOT $#@!ing contradictory statements. Every Trump supporter understands this.. Only a completely insane person with TDS thinks those are contradictory statements.

Only a completely insane person with TDS thinks those are NOT contradictory statements.

 

[dannno]

Despite the available goldmine of available quotes from Trump on the campaign trail that promise both one thing and its exact opposite, I don't believe I ever saw any from either him or his supporters that resorted to explaining how Mexico would pay for the wall in a way that could include this current iteration.

I do remember a lot of suggestions they offered about how it would happen. But this wouldn't fit into any of them.

To try to stretch enough wiggle room for this out of the word "somehow" is effectively admitting it was a lie all along.

He specifically said they would pay for it, maybe under trade deals, or he literally said "some how". Some how includes pretty much fucking anything. But since all you do is yappity yap instead of listen...

 

[dannno]

Only a completely insane person with TDS thinks those are NOT contradictory statements.

Saying Mexico will pay for the wall some how, and saying Mexico will pay for the wall, are not in fact contradictory statements. Do you even ah-speaky the english bro?

 

[TheTexan]

Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall, he didn't say how they would pay. He's already made Mexico pay for the wall, by leveraging tariffs against China which increases the balance of trade towards the US which causes Mexico to have a weaker bargaining position in both government & corporate deals.

So Mexico already paid for it, and they'll keep paying for it, for as long as Trump is President.

 

[dannno]

It is literally retarded that we are having this debate 3 years later.. this has been debated for three fucking years..

Originally Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall. Then in a speech he said they might pay for it through trade deals or something. Then retards start saying, "ah hah!! so Mexico won't pay for the wall!" No, idiot, they will pay for it through trade deals, or some other way. That is how it has always been framed.

Trump supporters get a lot of flack for being "slow", but no Trump supporter is confused by this. They understand it perfectly. None of them have a problem with it. You have to be like IQ 70 not to understand that Mexico paying for the wall through trade deals is not contradictory to Mexico paying for the wall.. Unless Trump literally at one point said that the President of Mexico would write him a check, which he NEVER said, or unless Trump specified how Mexico would pay for the wall, which he NEVER did.. all he did was say they would pay for it - they would pay for it some how - maybe through trade deals, or maybe directly, who knows... It's pretty fucking simple.

 

[Ender]

Saying Mexico will pay for the wall some how, and saying Mexico will pay for the wall, are not in fact contradictory statements. Do you even ah-speaky the english bro?

Better than you, apparently.

 

[Superfluous Man]

Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall, he didn't say how they would pay. He's already made Mexico pay for the wall, by leveraging tariffs against China which increases the balance of trade towards the US which causes Mexico to have a weaker bargaining position in both government & corporate deals.

So Mexico already paid for it, and they'll keep paying for it, for as long as Trump is President.

+rep

You sound infinitely more logical than Trump's actual supporters.

 

[TheTexan]

I told my ex-wife she would one day pay for sleeping with my cousin.

I didn't tell her how she was gonna pay for it.

 

[Ender]

+rep

You sound infinitely more logical than Trump's actual supporters.

Ya think?

 

[Superfluous Man]

He said dozens of times on the campaign trail that Mexico would pay for the wall "some how", through trade deals or something.

I like how you left the quotation marks off that last part. Because as far as you actually know, Trump never did say, "through trade deals or something," did he?

And even if he did, we both know that he's not capable of showing in any real and specific way how the trade deal that he's now claiming does include Mexico paying for the wall actually does.

If he's going to say that this trade deal constitutes Mexico paying for the wall "somehow," he might as well pick any random unrelated thing he wants, like nominating Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, and say that that counts as Mexico paying for the wall somehow.

Obviously his supporters will accept that explanation.

 

[dannno]

Better than you, apparently.

Saying Mexico will pay for the wall, and then saying Mexico won't pay for the wall are contradictory statements.

Saying Mexico will pay for the wall, then saying Mexico will pay for the wall some how are NOT contradictory statements.

Take a fucking logic class or something.. You are just spewing nonsense and confusing stupid people.

 

[kahless]

Trump said hundreds of times on the campaign trail that Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

He said dozens of times on the campaign trail that Mexico would pay for the wall "some how", through trade deals or something.

Those are NOT ... contradictory statements. Every Trump supporter understands this..

Sorry Danno but he clearly backed off from where he was when you look at his campaign promise in the image above. Then to go as far as to shutdown the government since he does not have the funding makes him into a bit of hypocrite. (not that I care that it is shutdown). The man is all talk with no follow through.

Did you see the other thread about citizenship for H-1B's and bringing in more of them? Just more betrayal and cuckery from Trump.

He says it is an invasion, but only threatens to send troops to the border to secure it. We knew this 2 years ago and he still has not secured the border. Just more talk and threats while appeasing his far left enemies. I am getting sick and tired of every issue him saying one thing and then dialing it way back later so he can appease his enemies. He reaches across the aisle to betray his campaign promises and base to people that are figuratively spitting on him, his supporters and the values he promoted. The man wants to be liked by his opposition more so than appeasing his base. The tough talk and bluster is meaningless without a backbone to follow through.

It is not going to make me vote for the left or disagree with his campaign promises. But his continued failure to follow through while betraying his promises will have me looking at supporting a primary challenge or a third party for man that can follow through. Not some spineless wimp that is always cowering to his opposition and the news media.

 

[dannno]

I like how you left the quotation marks off that last part. Because as far as you actually know, Trump never did say, "through trade deals or something," did he?

And even if he did, we both know that he's not capable of showing in any real and specific way how the trade deal that he's now claiming does include Mexico paying for the wall actually does.

If he's going to say that this trade deal constitutes Mexico paying for the wall "somehow," he might as well pick any random unrelated thing he wants, like nominating Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, and say that that counts as Mexico paying for the wall somehow.

Obviously his supporters will accept that explanation.

He said it all the way back in 2015.. Stop being dense. This is literally retard territory we are in right now.

 

[dannno]

Sorry Danno but he clearly backed off from where he was when you look at his campaign promise in the image above. Then to go as far as to shutdown the government since he does not have the funding makes him into a bit of hypocrite. (not that I care that it is shutdown). The man is all talk with no follow through.

Did you see the other thread about citizenship for H-1B's and bringing in more of them? Just more betrayal and cuckery from Trump.

He says it is an invasion, but only threatens to send troops to the border to secure it. We knew this 2 years ago and he still has not secured the border. Just more talk and threats while appeasing his far left enemies. I am getting sick and tired of every issue him saying one thing and then dialing it way back later so he can appease his enemies. He reaches across the aisle to betray his campaign promises and base to people that are figuratively spitting on him, his supporters and the values he promoted. The man wants to be liked by his opposition more so than appeasing his base. The tough talk and bluster is meaningless without a backbone to follow through.

It is not going to make me vote for the left or disagree with his campaign promises. But his continued failure to follow through while betraying his promises will have me looking at supporting a primary challenge or a third party for man that can follow through. Not some spineless wimp that is always cowering to his opposition and the news media.

Sorry, you are wrong.. if we have been giving Mexico $24 billion every year for however long, and they are taking a $5-$10 billion hit off that payment, that is $5-$10 billion toward the wall. Trump never promised that he would stop paying Mexico $24 billion per year and also get them to pay for the wall. He only promised they would pay for the wall.

Also, I don't know how your opinion of Trump gets shaped, do you watch a bunch of CNN or something? Or do you not understand the influence of the deep state in the media and in politics? Because Trump can't just do whatever the fuck he wants, but he is making big moves and pushing us in the right direction.

If he pulls us out of Syria and Afghanistan, are you going to be looking for another option? Like who? Fucking Romney? Get the fuck outta here..

A lot of people on this site have changed their opinion of Trump more favorably since he has been in office, and for good reason.

 

[CCTelander]

I like how you left the quotation marks off that last part. Because as far as you actually know, Trump never did say, "through trade deals or something," did he?

And even if he did, we both know that he's not capable of showing in any real and specific way how the trade deal that he's now claiming does include Mexico paying for the wall actually does.

If he's going to say that this trade deal constitutes Mexico paying for the wall "somehow," he might as well pick any random unrelated thing he wants, like nominating Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, and say that that counts as Mexico paying for the wall somehow.

Obviously his supporters will accept that explanation.

Dannno is noe mere supporter. He's the most fanatical of pro-Trump zealots. His lips seem permanently affixed to Trump's ass.

 

[kahless]

Sorry, you are wrong.. if we have been giving Mexico $24 billion every year for however long, and they are taking a $5-$10 billion hit off that payment, that is $5-$10 billion toward the wall. Trump never promised that he would stop paying Mexico $24 billion per year and also get them to pay for the wall. He only promised they would pay for the wall.

That graphic is from his campaign website calling for a one time payment from Mexico.

Also, I don't know how your opinion of Trump gets shaped, do you watch a bunch of CNN or something? Or do you not understand the influence of the deep state in the media and in politics? Because Trump can't just do whatever the fuck he wants, but he is making big moves and pushing us in the right direction.

Even if it means betraying the very policies he ran on that get him elected in the first place? One does not need CNN or any news outlet to come to that conclusion. Just follow his own twitter feed, legislation being passed and legislation not being passed.

If he pulls us out of Syria and Afghanistan, are you going to be looking for another option? Like who? Fucking Romney? Get the fuck outta here..

I said back in December that this might just be talk to appease his base and give it time or whoever gets in his ear then we will end up staying. So it is another big if and were more than two years in.

A lot of people on this site have changed their opinion of Trump more favorably since he has been in office, and for good reason.

The statements at his campaign rallies, crushing the far left and his campaign promises are all great things. But if it amounts to nothing being changed other than for the worse then what is the point.

 

[Stratovarious]

160+ Countries have 'border adjusted vat taxes'.
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Our Trade deficit with Mexico in 2015 was $60 Billion,
we can make up 5 billion very quickly , Mexico Will pay.
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Trump is right.

 

[Zippyjuan]

160+ Countries have 'border adjusted vat taxes'.Exempt export tax , green light import tax.-Our Trade deficit with Mexio in 2015 was $60 Billion, we can make up 5 billion very quickly , Mexico Will pay.-Trump is right.

Yes, it is good when countries tax other countries to pay for their own programs. Perhaps the EU and China should be taxing US citizens more.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Yes, it is good when countries tax other countries to pay for their own programs. Perhaps the EU and China should be taxing US citizens more.

Maybe you should be taxed on RPF! Share some of your loot you make off us! LOL!

 

[Stratovarious]

Dannno is noe mere supporter. He's the most fanatical of pro-Trump zealots. His lips seem permanently affixed to Trump's ass.

Who did you vote for , based on what policies?