"I Never Said Mexico Would Pay for The Wall"

Gotta love these Deranged Hillary sycophants, 'deranged syndrome' , inverted reality trolls.Obama spent 25 billion at the border, and you'd think by listening to all this Trump Hate rhetoric that 5 billion was just a ton of cash, end of world , reckless spending, Trump said this , and said something else, well folks , your last president lied to you about 'important' issues and whittled away at your God Given rights, oh but mommy mommy, looky' what dat bad Trump said..........jfc, get a life people.
 
Stratovarious said:
Gotta love these Deranged Hillary sycophants, 'deranged syndrome' , inverted reality trolls.Obama spent 25 billion at the border, and you'd think by listening to all this Trump Hate rhetoric that 5 billion was just a ton of cash, end of world , reckless spending, Trump said this , and said something else, well folks , your last president lied to you about 'important' issues and whittled away at your God Given rights, oh but mommy mommy, looky' what dat bad Trump said..........jfc, get a life people.
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Link?
 
Superfluous Man said:
Sarcasm?

Obviously, that's not at all what he promised on the campaign trail.

His whole position in this government shutdown is that he refuses to sign a budget unless it makes American taxpayers, not Mexico, pay for the wall. This is the very thing he promised on the campaign trail, over and over again, that he would not do.
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Mommy :tugsonskirt: make them stop, Trumpty promised blah blah blah, well he
also promised (de facto) that Hillary was going jail, some things just don't
work out, where were you when Obama fkd up Health Care and your rights
those things matter, really , but now, where the money comes from
is your obsession? Is this going to come right out of your pocket, are
going to see this in your tax bill ever, probably not, there's a lot of budget
items that will never come out of your pocket, MEXICO will pay,not with a check,
so what , he never even said they would pay with a cash deal of any kind.
,,,,,,,,,but
mommy Trumps a bad boy , he said........:frog:whiner ..........
 
Superfluous Man said:
Despite the available goldmine of available quotes from Trump on the campaign trail that promise both one thing and its exact opposite, I don't believe I ever saw any from either him or his supporters that resorted to explaining how Mexico would pay for the wall in a way that could include this current iteration.

I do remember a lot of suggestions they offered about how it would happen. But this wouldn't fit into any of them.

To try to stretch enough wiggle room for this out of the word "somehow" is effectively admitting it was a lie all along.
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So it would be safe to say that at the moment, congress is unknowingly doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. These debates bring focus to a chronic immigration issue can that has been kicked down the road for a very long time.
 
In other news:

Ocasio-Cortez told us she's determined to keep fighting for what's being called a "Green New Deal" — a highly ambitious, some would say "unrealistic," proposal that would convert the entire U.S. Economy to renewable sources of energy in just 12 years, while guaranteeing every American a job at a fair wage.

Anderson Cooper: You're talking about zero carbon emissions— no use of fossil fuels within 12 years.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: That is the goal. It's ambitious. And...

Anderson Cooper: How is that possible? Are you talking about everybody having to drive an electric car?

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: It's going to require a lot of rapid change that we don't even conceive as possible right now. What is the problem with trying to push our technological capacities to the furthest extent possible?

Anderson Cooper: This would require, though, raising taxes.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: There's an element where— yeah. There— people are going to have to start paying their fair share in taxes.
 
dannno said:
Pretty sure they voted for the same person I did.. Gary Johnson..
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I thought Gary was a fraud, an imposter, seriously, I don't remember what
the issues were but at the time they were glaring so I xd' him way off my list.
 
Schifference said:
In other news:

Ocasio-Cortez told us she's determined to keep fighting for what's being called a "Green New Deal" — a highly ambitious, some would say "unrealistic," proposal that would convert the entire U.S. Economy to renewable sources of energy in just 12 years, while guaranteeing every American a job at a fair wage.

Anderson Cooper: You're talking about zero carbon emissions— no use of fossil fuels within 12 years.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: That is the goal. It's ambitious. And...

Anderson Cooper: How is that possible? Are you talking about everybody having to drive an electric car?

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: It's going to require a lot of rapid change that we don't even conceive as possible right now. What is the problem with trying to push our technological capacities to the furthest extent possible?

Anderson Cooper: This would require, though, raising taxes.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: There's an element where— yeah. There— people are going to have to start paying their fair share in taxes.
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Amazing how her views go unchallenged by her young supporters on the left simply because she is a young Hispanic female. As if she is going to help them when in reality all she is, is a whore for corporate welfare.
 
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Stratovarious said:
I thought Gary was a fraud, an imposter, seriously, I don't remember what
the issues were but at the time they were glaring so I xd' him way off my list.
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Gary Johnson isn't the best choice for President.. he did campaign on ending the wars, though, and Trump campaigned on defeating ISIS and maybe ending the wars. I didn't know whether to trust Trump or not at that point.

I think GJ made a pretty good Governor and would make a great Senator.. but the worst thing about his campaign, by far, was his VP Bill Weld.. holy shit, he ended up endorsing Clinton.. Obviously he was a deep state plant.

I was totally ok with Gary Johnson not knowing what Aleppo is, but he seemed to be sabotaging himself almost constantly throughout the campaign. If I could pick him as President, I would, I just don't see him ever winning.
 
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Zippyjuan said:
Money authorized by the Republican Congress.
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Does that mean Obama didn't sign it. uh no,
and he spent 18 billion on immigration enforcement in 2012 alone, who do you know
that has spent anything like that combating illegals, and you and your pals think 5 billion is crazy , well
even if us tax payers do wind up paying for it , its not crazy.
 
Stratovarious said:
Does that mean Obama didn't sign it. uh no,
and he spent 18 billion on immigration enforcement in 2012 alone, who do you know
that has spent anything like that combating illegals, and you and your pals think 5 billion is crazy , well
even if us tax payers do wind up paying for it , its not crazy.
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https://www.cato.org/blog/gop-bill-spends-more-border-patrol-5-years-it-has-spent-5-decades

GOP Bill Spends More on Border Patrol in 5 Years Than It Has Spent in 5 Decades

A large group of House Republicans with support from President Trump has united behind comprehensive immigration reform legislation that would be their answer to the DACA impasse. Among other provisions, it would gut legal immigration, criminalize all unauthorized immigrants, and legalize a small percentage of the DACA population. But most pressing for Congress as it debates a long-term spending deal is its authorization of $130 billion in new spending over 5 years, tripling the current Customs and Border Protection budget and executing a six-fold increase in Border Patrol spending.

The Securing America’s Future Act (H.R. 4760) has 77 Republican cosponsors. It would authorize the construction of President Trump’s border wall (p. 254), 10,000 new Customs and Border Protection Officers and Border Patrol agents (p. 319), a biometric surveillance system at airports, seaports, and land ports of entry (p. 357), mandatory E-Verify employment verification program for all workers (p. 87), border drones and other border surveillance (p. 261), and much else. It would require spending more than $40 billion annually and more than $200 billion over five years.
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More at link.

That is in addition to the $25 billion Trump wanted for his wall. (yes, he has cut that request to $5.7 billion). He said the wall would cover the entire 2000 mile border. Lately he says he wants 500 miles of fence/ wall but even that figure includes hundreds of miles of current wall getting updated. We already have 650 miles of wall/ barriers.
 
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dannno said:
Gary Johnson isn't the best choice for President.. he did campaign on ending the wars, though, and Trump campaigned on defeating ISIS and maybe ending the wars. I didn't know whether to trust Trump or not at that point.

I think GJ made a pretty good Governor and would make a great Senator.. but the worst thing about his campaign, by far, was his VP Bill Weld.. holy $#@!, he ended up endorsing Clinton.. Obviously he was a deep state plant.

I was totally ok with Gary Johnson not knowing what Aleppo is, but he seemed to be sabotaging himself almost constantly throughout the campaign. If I could pick him as President, I would, I just don't see him ever winning.
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ok , thanks, and I didn't mean to diss your pick, its just those glaring issues at the time.
Trump is still a bull loose in a China store, for sure, I laughed at him like everyone else based on
some ridiculous statements pre dating this last election cycle, what a clown, but when he started
stating his stance on issues, that all changed, he has disappointed me in many ways , but done
more good for us (Merca) than any other president has since Jack Kennedy imo.
 
Stratovarious said:
Serenzipity, do you actually ever say anything more than 3 word sentences, you know an opinion,
and explanation, background , you don't even say what that budget graph applies to, and then
you say Republican Congress, how does that change Obama's actions , huh ?
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More info was added.
 
He never said they were gonna pre-pay for the wall.
 
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