I knew Ron's 9/11 2nd Amendment argument was going to backfire

[Razmear]

He needs to drop that from his speeches.

Here is what Time Magazine heard:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1653405,00.html

By the time that Libertarian congressman Ron Paul told a cheering crowd at the Iowa Republican straw poll that the 9/11 terrorist attacks might have been prevented if the passengers on the planes had been packing heat, I was beginning to wonder if the event—a goofy affair under the best of circumstances—had gone fatally exotic.

 

[Sematary]

That will play AWESOME with EVERYONE who supports that position - more people than you might think - and it will also play well with most Americans who believe that we need to be able to defend ourselves from the bad guys. This is GREAT news for his campaign.

 

[pazzo83]

I'd like to see someone hijack a plane when other people on the plane are armed.

 

[foofighter20x]

This may get Dr Paul even more free publicity...

The man is a genius.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

I think for the average person, that statement sounds insane. I personally think it does. He needs to clarify that he wants security members on the plane with guns

When people hear a statement like that, t hey think "oh god, every terrorist and gang member will have a gun on flights...it's going to turn into a shootout"

 

[Thomas_Paine]

He needs to drop that from his speeches.

Here is what Time Magazine heard:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1653405,00.html

By the time that Libertarian congressman Ron Paul told a cheering crowd at the Iowa Republican straw poll that the 9/11 terrorist attacks might have been prevented if the passengers on the planes had been packing heat, I was beginning to wonder if the event—a goofy affair under the best of circumstances—had gone fatally exotic.

Ron Paul's position is that the airlines have the RIGHT to defend their property and their passengers, therefore it is up to them whether or not to allow guns aboard a flight. Pilots should pack heat PERIOD.

 

[jonahtrainer]

That will play AWESOME with EVERYONE who supports that position - more people than you might think - and it will also play well with most Americans who believe that we need to be able to defend ourselves from the bad guys. This is GREAT news for his campaign.

No kidding. There are a lot of people pissed off from the FEMA weapon confiscations leaving law abiding citizens defenseless against armed gangs.

The only thing that backfires with Ron Paul is people attacking or ignoring his ideas.

 

[kalami]

You guys are spinning something that obviously isn't a good thing. Regardless, we know that it's not what if even meant, so the people that believe this will do so falsely.

 

[Dustancostine]

I think for the average person, that statement sounds insane. I personally think it does. He needs to clarify that he wants security members on the plane with guns

When people hear a statement like that, t hey think "oh god, every terrorist and gang member will have a gun on flights...it's going to turn into a shootout"

Better a shoot out than crashing it into a tower.

 

[lintsniffer]

I'd love the government to try and restrict what is allowed on MY plane.

If I get a plane

 

[jonahtrainer]

I'd like to see someone hijack a plane when other people on the plane are armed.

Think of all the people at Virgina Tech who would probably still be alive if the campus administration hadn't banned weapons a year earlier.

 

[Sematary]

This is WHY we support him! What's not to love? He spoke the truth - yet again - and it's getting media coverage and the gunowners (most Americans) will LOVE it!

 

[Wyurm]

Ron Paul's position is that the airlines have the RIGHT to defend their property and their passengers, therefore it is up to them whether or not to allow guns aboard a flight. Pilots should pack heat PERIOD.

exactly, I do agree with the OP in that RP sometimes neglects to completely explain his points in a way that protects them from being misunderstood, but I don't think this will do any harm.

 

[Sematary]

Think of all the people at Virgina Tech who would probably still be alive if the campus administration hadn't banned weapons a year earlier.

yep

 

[Original_Intent]

AFAIK, Ron Paul has never said the passengers should have been armed, he has stated that if the pilots had been armed, men armed with box cutters would not have been able to hijack the planes. Seems pretty common-sensical to me.

 

[Dustancostine]

You guys are spinning something that obviously isn't a good thing. Regardless, we know that it's not what if even meant, so the people that believe this will do so falsely.

It may be because I am in Texas. But when I talk to most conservatives and bring up this very issue, they get very excited. Tell a Red State Republican, that RP wants to defend Terrorism by sealing the border and letting citizens carry their guns, and most say something to the effect of "sounds good to me".

--Dustan

 

[Sematary]

exactly, I do agree with the OP in that RP sometimes neglects to completely explain his points in a way that protects them from being misunderstood, but I don't think this will do any harm.

Hell - I think it will do alot of GOOD

 

[CMoore]

The man is a genius.


He is pretty smart.

 

[BLS]

The thing is...Ron Pauls' ideals are very radical to most mainstream people.
BUT...once they 'get it'...it becomes very clear.

I disagree, respectfully, Raz.
Why hide from your true feelings?! If RP believes that if people were allowed to carry guns, this kind of crap would never happen, and sheeple actually start thinking, we might just have a country worth taking back.

I know what you're saying man. I know your point of view.
And yes, it's a tough hill to climb for the average citizen.
But that's where you and I come in. We have to explain this stuff on his behalf.

Plus, the old adage always applies.
"There's no such thing as bad publicity"

Just my .02

 

[Man from La Mancha]

I think for the average person, that statement sounds insane. I personally think it does. He needs to clarify that he wants security members on the plane with guns

When people hear a statement like that, t hey think "oh god, every terrorist and gang member will have a gun on flights...it's going to turn into a shootout"

I have no problem with you Deadhead sitting next to me with your 45 under your jacket on an airplane.

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