I don't get the comparison between Pat Buchanan and Donald Trump

[Tywysog Cymru]

A lot of people compare the two campaigns because of their populist nature and emphasis on immigration. But that's where the similarities seem to end.

-Buchanan's immigration position hasn't changed over the years.
-Buchanan is pro-life, Trump is pro-choice.
-Buchanan doesn't support the expansion of government.
-Buchanan is non-interventionist, Trump is a hawk.
-Buchanan is honest, Trump is dishonest.
-Buchanan's writings are at a much higher reading level than Trump's speeches.

Also, from observation, people I know who like Pat Buchanan are generally well-informed, while Trump supporters tend to be swayed by emotional arguments.

While Buchanan is no libertarian, he would easily get my vote against someone like Clinton, because he would represent a step in the right direction. Trump, on the other hand, is an authoritarian demagogue who may very well move things even further in the wrong direction.

 

[misterx]

A lot of people compare the two campaigns because of their populist nature and emphasis on immigration. But that's where the similarities seem to end.

-Buchanan's immigration position hasn't changed over the years.
-Buchanan is pro-life, Trump is pro-choice.
-Buchanan doesn't support the expansion of government.
-Buchanan is non-interventionist, Trump is a hawk.
-Buchanan is honest, Trump is dishonest.
-Buchanan's writings are at a much higher reading level than Trump's speeches.

Also, from observation, people I know who like Pat Buchanan are generally well-informed, while Trump supporters tend to be swayed by emotional arguments.

While Buchanan is no libertarian, he would easily get my vote against someone like Clinton, because he would represent a step in the right direction. Trump, on the other hand, is an authoritarian demagogue who may very well move things even further in the wrong direction.

I would think Buchanan himself would be the one most qualified to answer this, and he is supporting Trump.

 

[Origanalist]

A lot of people compare the two campaigns because of their populist nature and emphasis on immigration. But that's where the similarities seem to end.

-Buchanan's immigration position hasn't changed over the years.
-Buchanan is pro-life, Trump is pro-choice.
-Buchanan doesn't support the expansion of government.
-Buchanan is non-interventionist, Trump is a hawk.
-Buchanan is honest, Trump is dishonest.
-Buchanan's writings are at a much higher reading level than Trump's speeches.

Also, from observation, people I know who like Pat Buchanan are generally well-informed, while Trump supporters tend to be swayed by emotional arguments.

While Buchanan is no libertarian, he would easily get my vote against someone like Clinton, because he would represent a step in the right direction. Trump, on the other hand, is an authoritarian demagogue who may very well move things even further in the wrong direction.

It's my opinion that he would move things along even further in the wrong direction. Would he be worse than Clinton? Probably not. Would he be better? Doubtful.

 

[AuH20]

Trump is like the fast food version of Buchanan that he ripped off.

 

[kahless]

A lot of people compare the two campaigns because of their populist nature and emphasis on immigration. But that's where the similarities seem to end.

-Buchanan's immigration position hasn't changed over the years.
-Buchanan is pro-life, Trump is pro-choice. Trump was pro-choice
-Buchanan doesn't support the expansion of government.
-Buchanan is non-interventionist, Trump is a hawk. Trump is the least hawkish in the race and makes FP statements similar to Buchanan
-Buchanan is honest, Trump is dishonest.
-Buchanan's writings are at a much higher reading level than Trump's speeches.

Also, from observation, people I know who like Pat Buchanan are generally well-informed, while Trump supporters tend to be swayed by emotional arguments.

While Buchanan is no libertarian, he would easily get my vote against someone like Clinton, because he would represent a step in the right direction. Trump, on the other hand, is an authoritarian demagogue who may very well move things even further in the wrong direction.

They are closer than what you think considering Buchanan in his writings is defending Trump.

 

[AuH20]

If 1996 Pat Buchanan was running, he'd be at 60% nationally. Pat was a great orator that infused you with his energy. Trump is sloppy and doesn't even put the necessary time in to adequately prosecute his case against these hyenas.

 

[kahless]

If 1996 Pat Buchanan was running, he'd be at 60% nationally. Pat was a great orator that infused you with his energy. Trump is sloppy and doesn't even put the necessary time in to adequately prosecute his case against these hyenas.

Just at the right time as usual they pulled out the anti-semite card to put an end to it. You can thank Chris Mathews and MSNBC for their coverage of that and giving McCain so much time to make Buchanan sound like he loved Hitler. If he was running at 60% nationally they would just at the right time pull the same tactic all over again.

There are a few things I can never forget.

- What McCain, Mathews, MSNBC and NBC did to Buchanan.
- What Glenn Beck did to Debra Medina.
- What Hannity did to Ron Paul before Iowa 2008 and 2012 (saying the newsletters in 2012 were "newly" discovered, like his attack in 08 never happened).

 

[misterx]

If 1996 Pat Buchanan was running, he'd be at 60% nationally. Pat was a great orator that infused you with his energy. Trump is sloppy and doesn't even put the necessary time in to adequately prosecute his case against these hyenas.

Oh how I wish Pat was twenty years younger, or that Ron had his speaking skills in 2012, or that the internet had been big in 1996

 

[kahless]

Oh how I wish Pat was twenty years younger, or that Ron had his speaking skills in 2012, or that the internet had been big in 1996

Buchanan is 3 years younger than Ron. I would have still voted for him despite the age if he had entered the race.

 

[PaleoPaul]

I wish Ron Paul was the same age he was in 1988 and was running this year. He'd DESTROY Donald Trump in a debate!

 

[misterx]

Buchanan is 3 years younger than Ron. I would have still voted for him despite the age if he had entered the race.

He's not in good health these days, and probably can't stand up to the rigors of a campaign.

 

[AuH20]

He's not in good health these days, and probably can't stand up to the rigors of a campaign.

He's frail. You're right. Plus, the fire has left him.

 

[AuH20]

Make America First Again

 

[Rad]

Trump is like the fast food version of Buchanan that he ripped off.

That is a good way to put it! +1

 

[dannno]

Make America First Again

What the hell happened at 7:20??

Was he "having trouble with his ear-piece"?

Debra Medina had trouble with her ear piece during her Beck interview, Trump had trouble recently during the KKK interview and I wouldn't be surprised if Ron or Rand have had trouble with theirs at inopportune moments.. These people have clearly been using this tactic for a long time, it's really slimey..

 

[Danke]

What the hell happened at 7:20??

Was he "having trouble with his ear-piece"?

Debra Medina had trouble with her ear piece during her Beck interview, Trump had trouble recently during the KKK interview and I wouldn't be surprised if Ron or Rand have had trouble with theirs at inopportune moments.. These people have clearly been using this tactic for a long time, it's really slimey..

That happened to Trump recently too. AJ discussed this on his talk radio show.

 

[Krugminator2]

I get the comparison.

Trump is deliberately running on a Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot platform of complete economic illiteracy. It is a calculated move, because that group makes up a significant part of the population.

And I think Trump's instincts align with Buchanan very well. Trump isn't a culture warrior. But at heart, they are both anti-capitalist, agrarian populists.

 

[willwash]

I think the biggest comparison is that the establishment GOP went balls to the wall to derail Buchanan after New Hampshire.

 

[thoughtomator]

Don't make it more complicated than it is.

A vote for Buchanan was a FU to the establishment, a vote for Trump (and, debatably Sanders also) is a FU to the establishment.

It's all about the FU. Policies don't matter, character doesn't matter, honesty doesn't matter. None of that matters. They are just vessels for the overwhelming amount of FU in the electorate that's been suppressed by charade politics.

 

[erowe1]

If you pick the right version of Trump, you can liken him to any number of widely divergent figures.