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me too, i gave up a position on the louisiana libertarian party of louisiana, but ron has the right idea... we need to take down the matrix from the inside.
me too, i gave up a position on the louisiana libertarian party of louisiana, but ron has the right idea... we need to take down the matrix from the inside.
The Louisiana Libertarian Party of Louisiana, is that similar to American Dodgeball Association of America?
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But now, because criminals murdered thousands of people on September 11, 2001, many are eager to abandon their Constitutional protections.
Have we become a nation of sniveling cowards? If not, please explain how it is that Congress has either bowed to or exploited this fear to become a gang of lawbreakers?
Yesterday, 68 Senators violated their oaths of office. They voted to pass S. 2248, a new law designed to replace the so-called "Protect America Act." This bill violates the Bill of Rights . . .
* It permits the President to spy on Americans without a warrant.
* It grants retroactive immunity to tele-communications companies that collaborated with the Bush administration in previous warrantless spying, thereby creating an incentive for other companies to engage in similar crimes in the future (only Qwest Communications insisted on warrants).
Will this new, un-constitutional power, prevent future terrorist attacks? Of course not, nothing can do that, just as there is no law or power that could completely stop murders by domestic criminals.
Does this new law create a tyranny? That would be an exaggeration. But what will happen when the next terrorist attack comes?
The sniveling cowards among us, and the lawbreakers in Congress, will then seek still more powers.
At one point will our children call this tyranny? Will there be any turning back?
Yesterday, 19 Democrats, 48 Republicans, and 1 independent voted to violate the Constitution and their oaths of office. Only 28 Democrats, 1 independent, and ZERO Republicans remained true to their oaths. The Republicans were universally bad.
But please notice that the law could not have passed without the vote of the Democrats!
Let this be clear -- neither political party is going to protect our Constitution, unless WE compel them to do it.
All hope is NOT lost. S. 2248 cannot become law unless the House agrees to its provisions. Fortunately, the House version of this bill, while not perfect, is signficantly better. Our best hope, and we must take it, is to tell the House to stick by their version of the bill.
A list of how the Senate voted is pasted below. Criticize your Senator if he or she voted for it. Ask your House member to reject the provisions of S. 2248.
How the Senate voted . . .
[R, SC] Sen. Lindsey Graham Abstain
[R, WY] Sen. John Barrasso Aye
[R, WY] Sen. Michael Enzi Aye
[R, VA] Sen. John Warner Aye
[R, UT] Sen. Robert Bennett Aye
[R, UT] Sen. Orrin Hatch Aye
[R, TX] Sen. John Cornyn Aye
[R, TX] Sen. Kay Hutchison Aye
[R, TN] Sen. Lamar Alexander Aye
[R, TN] Sen. Bob Corker Aye
[R, SD] Sen. John Thune Aye
[R, SC] Sen. Jim DeMint Aye
[R, PA] Sen. Arlen Specter Aye
[R, OR] Sen. Gordon Smith Aye
[R, OK] Sen. Thomas Coburn Aye
[R, OK] Sen. James Inhofe Aye
[R, OH] Sen. George Voinovich Aye
[R, NV] Sen. John Ensign Aye
[R, NM] Sen. Pete Domenici Aye
[R, NH] Sen. Judd Gregg Aye
[R, NH] Sen. John Sununu Aye
[R, NE] Sen. Charles Hagel Aye
[R, NC] Sen. Richard Burr Aye
[R, NC] Sen. Elizabeth Dole Aye
[R, MS-1] Rep. Roger Wicker Aye
[R, MS] Sen. Thad Cochran Aye
[R, MO] Sen. Christopher Bond Aye
[R, MN] Sen. Norm Coleman Aye
[R, ME] Sen. Susan Collins Aye
[R, ME] Sen. Olympia Snowe Aye
[R, LA] Sen. David Vitter Aye
[R, KY] Sen. Jim Bunning Aye
[R, KY] Sen. Mitch McConnell Aye
[R, KS] Sen. Samuel Brownback Aye
[R, KS] Sen. Pat Roberts Aye
[R, IN] Sen. Richard Lugar Aye
[R, ID] Sen. Larry Craig Aye
[R, ID] Sen. Michael Crapo Aye
[R, IA] Sen. Charles Grassley Aye
[R, GA] Sen. C. Saxby Chambliss Aye
[R, GA] Sen. John Isakson Aye
[R, FL] Sen. Mel Martinez Aye
[R, CO] Sen. Wayne Allard Aye
[R, AZ] Sen. Jon Kyl Aye
[R, AZ] Sen. John McCain Aye
[R, AL] Sen. Jefferson Sessions Aye
[R, AL] Sen. Richard Shelby Aye
[R, AK] Sen. Lisa Murkowski Aye
[R, AK] Sen. Ted Stevens Aye
[D, NY] Sen. Hillary Clinton Abstain
[D, IL] Sen. Barack Obama Abstain
[D, WV] Sen. John Rockefeller Aye
[D, WI] Sen. Herbert Kohl Aye
[D, VA] Sen. Jim Webb Aye
[D, SD] Sen. Tim Johnson Aye
[D, RI] Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse Aye
[D, PA] Sen. Robert Casey Aye
[D, NE] Sen. Ben Nelson Aye
[D, ND] Sen. Kent Conrad Aye
[D, MT] Sen. Max Baucus Aye
[D, MO] Sen. Claire McCaskill Aye
[D, MD] Sen. Barbara Mikulski Aye
[D, LA] Sen. Mary Landrieu Aye
[D, IN] Sen. B. Evan Bayh Aye
[D, HI] Sen. Daniel Inouye Aye
[D, FL] Sen. Bill Nelson Aye
[D, DE] Sen. Thomas Carper Aye
[D, CO] Sen. Ken Salazar Aye
[D, AR] Sen. Blanche Lincoln Aye
[D, AR] Sen. Mark Pryor Aye
[D, WV] Sen. Robert Byrd Nay
[D, WI] Sen. Russell Feingold Nay
[D, WA] Sen. Maria Cantwell Nay
[D, WA] Sen. Patty Murray Nay
[D, VT] Sen. Patrick Leahy Nay
[D, RI] Sen. John Reed Nay
[D, OR] Sen. Ron Wyden Nay
[D, OH] Sen. Sherrod Brown Nay
[D, NY] Sen. Charles Schumer Nay
[D, NV] Sen. Harry Reid Nay
[D, NM] Sen. Jeff Bingaman Nay
[D, NJ] Sen. Frank Lautenberg Nay
[D, NJ] Sen. Robert Menendez Nay
[D, ND] Sen. Byron Dorgan Nay
[D, MT] Sen. Jon Tester Nay
[D, MN] Sen. Amy Klobuchar Nay
[D, MI] Sen. Carl Levin Nay
[D, MI] Sen. Debbie Ann Stabenow Nay
[D, MD] Sen. Benjamin Cardin Nay
[D, MA] Sen. Edward Kennedy Nay
[D, MA] Sen. John Kerry Nay
[D, IL] Sen. Richard Durbin Nay
[D, IA] Sen. Thomas Harkin Nay
[D, HI] Sen. Daniel Akaka Nay
[D, DE] Sen. Joseph Biden Nay
[D, CT] Sen. Christopher Dodd Nay
[D, CA] Sen. Barbara Boxer Nay
[D, CA] Sen. Dianne Feinstein Nay
[I, CT] Sen. Joseph Lieberman Aye
[I, VT] Sen. Bernard Sanders Nay
Take back the Republican Party and then make sure this every political party in this country gets an equal chance to compete.
No - make sure that every candidate gets equal treatment, and that a voluntary association with a 'party' organization serves to share resources among like-minded candidates and identify candidates' values, the money to run said organization comes from the candidates' campaign funds, not from the government or voters at large.
Political parties can serve a useful purpose, but they over-stepped those bounds by about 1820.
This is part of an amendment I would like see passed. Along with an abolishment of term-limits, and a change from a party primary presidential election system to a rank and runoff system. A whole election law overhaul, is needed, really.
Agreed. I was considering becoming a Libertarian after my primary, but I've decided that I will begin running for Republican offices. For starters, I am going to become a Precinct Committeeman.
After long thought I've decided that the best way for me to help bring back my country is to remain a Republican and start working myself into the system where I can change it. Third parties will never stand a chance here. WE must repair the system from within.
After long thought I've decided that the best way for me to help bring back my country is to remain a Republican and start working myself into the system where I can change it. Third parties will never stand a chance here. WE must repair the system from within.
I'm changing my registration back to Libertarian tomorrow. I will continue to support Dr. Ron Paul and his message.
I just can't abide the McCain bandwagon and there is no way in hell I'll vote for that little Napoleon.
Agreed. I was considering becoming a Libertarian after my primary, but I've decided that I will begin running for Republican offices. For starters, I am going to become a Precinct Committeeman.
After long thought I've decided that the best way for me to help bring back my country is to remain a Republican and start working myself into the system where I can change it. Third parties will never stand a chance here. WE must repair the system from within.
I changed my mind. I'm staying Republican
After long thought I've decided that the best way for me to help bring back my country is to remain a Republican and start working myself into the system where I can change it. Third parties will never stand a chance here. WE must repair the system from within.