I can't shake what I saw earlier this week, but it won't stop me

tbone717 said:
ATXRevolutionary

What was your appearance like? Valid or not people make judgments based upon appearances. If you were wearing a wife beater, low slung jeans and had tats up and down your arms you would get a different response than if you were wearing a button down oxford and khakis.
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It was certainly nothing like that. I went straight from my work as a video game designer to the meeting so I was wearing my normal work clothes - my company jacket (which I think most would find is pretty darn snazy), blue jeans, and closed-toe shoes. Yes, it wasn't a button down and khakis but I don't think I looked unkempt, overly hip, or unprofessional either. I'm a nice person and I think what I wore reflected that.
 
SWATH said:
Dress for success. I've notice that the Ron Paul supporters have a "look". That look is most notably being under dressed as is they seem to show up wearing hoodies and very casual clothing. They'll slouch, be unshaven, have wild dyed hair, etc. and generally look a little too hip. I don't blame them though why should you dress up to respect the people who are destroying your party and country. However if you want to infiltrate you have to blend in and be perceived as one of them.

Case in point:
At my convention the Ron Paul supporters were easily identifiable. They were younger and as I described above. They tended to all hover around in the corners of the room (a sign of intimidation) and kind of talk amongst themselves and generally act like they were dejected for having to be there.
Myself and another Ron Paul supporter decided to dress as sharp as we could, nice suits, shoes, ties, the whole nine yards. We also tended to hover together in the corner at first. After a few minutes party people started coming up to us asking if we were attorneys. One HUGE party guy who is also the judge executive of our county came up and jokingly asked if we were FBI or CIA agents. He talked about how it was great to see young people getting involved in the party, bla bla bla, and talked about how we need to get behind Romney so we can defeat Obama. We just kind of agreed about how bad Obama is yada yada. He talked to us for an hour and a half about all sorts of stuff and introduced us to a few other party guys and basically pulled us in to their fold. All the while there was the other group of Ron Paul supporters huddled in the corner with their ripped jeans, hoodies, and sketchers getting the cold shoulder. We would have never been approached if dressed like the other group. When Tyler Durden wants to pee in the soup, he dresses like a bus boy.
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Nice!
 
I'm not saying this is you, but I have seen some Paul supporters try to integrate themselves less than elegantly.

What I might imagine from the other side:

"I can't shake what I saw earlier this week, but it won't stop me"

"I was at my Republican party meeting (been going ten years and loving it), ready to get down to business. As we were chatting amongst ourselves a disheveled person walked into the room with a complete look of hatred and disgust on their face. He hadn't introduced himself to us, and though he had apparently walked in of his own volition, he acted as though it were some form of punishment to work with us.

His expression was one of, 'I'M HERE TO GET MINE, THEN I'M GONE!'"

Make sure when going to these events that some effort is made to build friendships and "win the hearts and minds".
 
sailingaway said:
I think that is a major overgeneralization:
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Ditto! I challenge ANYONE to point out the Ron Paul supporters in this pic:

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Interesting, I'm curious what would happen if someone came in the room wearing a mitt romney T-shirt with colored hair...would he get the same cold shoulder treatment?.
 
ATXRevolutionary said:
I was on my way to attend my first Republican party meeting, ready to take my first step into the political process. As I walked into the room several of the establishment Republicans saw me and their faces immediately changed - to a look of complete hatred, complete disgust. I never once identified myself as a Ron Paul supporter, but they assumed so, simply because I'm younger and they had never seen me before.

It was a look of, "WHO THE HELL INVITED YOU TO OUR SOCIAL CLUB!?"

Bring it on.
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I get this all the time. My situation is worse, because of my race, I stick out like a sore thumb. Anyone can spot me in a Republican crowd of 2000 aging white people.
 
SWATH said:
Dress for success. I've notice that the Ron Paul supporters have a "look". That look is most notably being under dressed as is they seem to show up wearing hoodies and very casual clothing. They'll slouch, be unshaven, have wild dyed hair, etc. and generally look a little too hip. I don't blame them though why should you dress up to respect the people who are destroying your party and country. However if you want to infiltrate you have to blend in and be perceived as one of them.

Case in point:
At my convention the Ron Paul supporters were easily identifiable. They were younger and as I described above. They tended to all hover around in the corners of the room (a sign of intimidation) and kind of talk amongst themselves and generally act like they were dejected for having to be there.
Myself and another Ron Paul supporter decided to dress as sharp as we could, nice suits, shoes, ties, the whole nine yards. We also tended to hover together in the corner at first. After a few minutes party people started coming up to us asking if we were attorneys. One HUGE party guy who is also the judge executive of our county came up and jokingly asked if we were FBI or CIA agents. He talked about how it was great to see young people getting involved in the party, bla bla bla, and talked about how we need to get behind Romney so we can defeat Obama. We just kind of agreed about how bad Obama is yada yada. He talked to us for an hour and a half about all sorts of stuff and introduced us to a few other party guys and basically pulled us in to their fold. All the while there was the other group of Ron Paul supporters huddled in the corner with their ripped jeans, hoodies, and sketchers getting the cold shoulder. We would have never been approached if dressed like the other group. When Tyler Durden wants to pee in the soup, he dresses like a bus boy.
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Good points but Tyler Durden was also a neo-Luddite nihilist.
 
lib3rtarian said:
I get this all the time. My situation is worse, because of my race, I stick out like a sore thumb. Anyone can spot me in a Republican crowd of 2000 aging white people.
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You can't stick out as bad as these two:

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Unless one of them are you... Seriously though, I'll look for the ones that stand out & sit near them. They are usually more interesting anyway! ;) These guys were A BLAST. They had me smiling through the whole caucus!
 
SWATH said:
I'm glad because it doesn't work. One Ron Paul supporter showed up with bright purple and pink dyed hair and wearing a wild frickin' tie-dyed shirt and sweat pants and her car was covered in hand painted Ron Paul stuff and bumper stickers. We noticed she got a lot of negative attention from the party people. I believe she is totally passionate about Ron Paul and not a plant to make his supporters appear insane although it wasn't immediately obvious.
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Now what if she said that she supported Gingrich dressed like that? Hey! Come to think about it. we could actually reverse the whole notion by dressing weird and saying off the wall things claiming to be Santorum or Romney supporters just for kicks
 
Luckily, I didn't get this reaction at all from my local GOP.

In fact, my local GOP is SO desperate to win after 15+ years of Democrat dominance that they almost unanimously voted ME after only 2 meetings to not only run as a County Committeeman (hich I was going to do anyway) but also for Township Committee (there are 5 of them and they are the positions of power in our town. We don't vote directly for mayor).

There are 2 positions up this year, but I was nominated alone because I have a clean slate and m young and well spoken. They figure taking one seat is better than taking none. I'm planning on using this to rreally give the GOP a jump-start in my town and then my County. If I can prove that I can win, the GOP will push me forward. All the while I wiill be espouusing liberty ideals. I'm going to try and change this party the best I can. If I'm a proven winner, they will fall in behind me or risk falling behind - no matter what my ideals are.
 
chris41336 said:
Luckily, I didn't get this reaction at all from my local GOP.

In fact, my local GOP is SO desperate to win after 15+ years of Democrat dominance that they almost unanimously voted ME after only 2 meetings to not only run as a County Committeeman (hich I was going to do anyway) but also for Township Committee (there are 5 of them and they are the positions of power in our town. We don't vote directly for mayor).

There are 2 positions up this year, but I was nominated alone because I have a clean slate and m young and well spoken. They figure taking one seat is better than taking none. I'm planning on using this to rreally give the GOP a jump-start in my town and then my County. If I can prove that I can win, the GOP will push me forward. All the while I wiill be espouusing liberty ideals. I'm going to try and change this party the best I can. If I'm a proven winner, they will fall in behind me or risk falling behind - no matter what my ideals are.
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+rep for this winner! Thanks
 
I've felt the same. And quitting would simply be giving into them. Win them over. Make them your friend. I find that when I talk about fiscal policy they like me. I avoid the foreign talk for now until I become someone they trust and realize is a REAL conservative. In the meantime...I'm fighting for the man of the Contitution.
 
ATXRevolutionary said:
I was on my way to attend my first Republican party meeting, ready to take my first step into the political process. As I walked into the room several of the establishment Republicans saw me and their faces immediately changed - to a look of complete hatred, complete disgust. I never once identified myself as a Ron Paul supporter, but they assumed so, simply because I'm younger and they had never seen me before.

It was a look of, "WHO THE HELL INVITED YOU TO OUR SOCIAL CLUB!?"

Bring it on.
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Now you have an idea what Dr. Paul goes through on a daily basis--and he has been treated like this for over twenty years!
 
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