Exit polling is showing that the 18-29 turnout is around what it was in 2008. The PPP Poll from yesterday showed that Newt was getting the most from that group, Paul was tied with Mitt for second.
I posted earlier, that we need to abandon this fantasy that all of these youth are going to get up off the couch and march to the voting booths, when traditionally they do not.
Thanks for the data. As a grassroots we need to start tailoring OUR MESSAGE for mature, consistent voters.
I am disgusted as well.
I hope we see a miracle, I believe in them.
I will stay long enough to vote No One But Paul.
But if Ron is not the one in the White House, I've already got plans to leave.
I know some people think that's a cowardly move, but I see no future here for myself.
People have told me that other countries are much worse, but I've already woken up to that lie. Some countries might look at us and say "Wow, they have lots of freedoms!" but the others think we are falling way behind and just feel sorry for us. I've been told as much by friends in both the UK and India. Our perception of the world, as Americans, is entirely distorted. How much did you learn about the rest of the globe in high school or college? I didn't learn jack shit. I had to start talking to people from other countries to learn anything. Pretty soon, the US isn't going to need to worry about illegal immigration, but rather legal emigration. Who the hell'd want to come here after NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, and all the other bullshit these corrupt bastards dream up on a daily basis...
*feeling very MEH at the moment, just ignore me*
I'm having a hard time being optimistic right now about anything. Last night at a dinner party I had to listen to a friend talk about how we really need to nail Iran now for being ornery, and that the Marines who peed on the Taliban corpses are great and that they should be given medals for defending us against Muslims who are planning on taking over the US. Then I overheard another friend talking about how we all need to get behind the one guy that can win and is a the best conservative we have, Santorum. These are also "Tea Party patriots". Then I turn on the tv briefly and the first thing I see is a commercial touting the benefits of high fructose corn syrup.
Well, nationalism is depressing. Become an individualist and your self-esteem and identity will not rely on some collective. It really does improve your outlook on life.![]()
Well said.
I think it is a bit distasteful as well with all of this howling over "voters" not picking the right candidate. But I certainly understand people's frustration with the slow(relatively) change. The only thing I would be disappointed over is not beating Santorum. I want it to be between Gingrich and Ron Paul for the anti-Romney vote. With Gingrich/Santorum not even on the ballot in a couple of states Ron Paul can make up for this loss.
Also a little perspective for some of the early mourners. Remember that the MSM is dying economically and I'm talking about all of them. 4-8 years time will already be early enough to bypass the media without as much hassle as has been needed in the MSM dominated era. So even if Ron Paul doesn't win this time, the environment will be very good for another strong liberty campaign in the future. Especially if you add the economic problems awaiting America in this decade. The only question will be whether we will get a beltway libertarian of the Cato/Reason(=Koch controlled) like Johnson or a paleo libertarian(Rand Paul and others connected with paleo wing). For the long term I'm betting on Rand but I have been pleasantly surprised by just how much progress has been made already this time around and I still believe Ron can get it even if it will be very tough.
Decline of the Roman Empire 2.0 here we come baby! Least we don't have Visigoths knocking on the door.