i can honestly say right now...

[Endthefednow]

To the Rest of The World WE WANT WAR!!! is what the voters have said so far!!

 

[PierzStyx]

The MSM is a side-effect. The real enemy is the ignorance of the American people.

This. Exactly this.

 

[AFPVet]

The answer is simple, dude. Not enough of the people are waking up, and not enough people care about, or even know about the country's current affairs. Until that changes, nothing else will either.

Too many misinformed and apathetic people are the reason for why these other candidates are doing better. I fear that we will lose our country before everyone wakes up.

 

[PierzStyx]

You know the rest of teh world hasn't any room to talk. Its mostly like thsi already. Especially Europe. Remember we aren't setting a bad exmple, we're following one.

 

[rodo1776]

Get the hell out. I have been gone for years and love it. Dont sweat it. Get the fuck out.

I am disgusted as well.
I hope we see a miracle, I believe in them.
I will stay long enough to vote No One But Paul.
But if Ron is not the one in the White House, I've already got plans to leave.
I know some people think that's a cowardly move, but I see no future here for myself.
People have told me that other countries are much worse, but I've already woken up to that lie. Some countries might look at us and say "Wow, they have lots of freedoms!" but the others think we are falling way behind and just feel sorry for us. I've been told as much by friends in both the UK and India. Our perception of the world, as Americans, is entirely distorted. How much did you learn about the rest of the globe in high school or college? I didn't learn jack shit. I had to start talking to people from other countries to learn anything.

 

[impaleddead]

^^ This. People need to start understanding politics 101. A message does not resonate with voters if the message is not marketed. The costs to market the candidate in SC and FL was not worth the potential return.

The voters in SC are not morons, the campaign did not market to them.

Blaming the citizens of SC is pointless. It is like if you launched a product that you felt was the world's greatest widget and the widget that everyone should own. And you sat there in your office bitching and moaning that no one in SC bought your widget, even though you didn't advertise your widget in SC.

Having lived in SC i can tell you first hand the average person is way more ignorant then say your average New Hampshire resident. Just how it is. Different culture, values, schools, general perspective ect.

 

[cbr06honda]

The MSM is a side-effect. The real enemy is the ignorance of the American people.

Quoted for truth.

 

[Henry Hazlitt]

^^ This. People need to start understanding politics 101. A message does not resonate with voters if the message is not marketed. The costs to market the candidate in SC and FL was not worth the potential return.

The voters in SC are not morons, the campaign did not market to them.

Blaming the citizens of SC is pointless. It is like if you launched a product that you felt was the world's greatest widget and the widget that everyone should own. And you sat there in your office bitching and moaning that no one in SC bought your widget, even though you didn't advertise your widget in SC.

Well said.

I think it is a bit distasteful as well with all of this howling over "voters" not picking the right candidate. But I certainly understand people's frustration with the slow(relatively) change. The only thing I would be disappointed over is not beating Santorum. I want it to be between Gingrich and Ron Paul for the anti-Romney vote. With Gingrich/Santorum not even on the ballot in a couple of states Ron Paul can make up for this loss.


Also a little perspective for some of the early mourners. Remember that the MSM is dying economically and I'm talking about all of them. 4-8 years time will already be early enough to bypass the media without as much hassle as has been needed in the MSM dominated era. So even if Ron Paul doesn't win this time, the environment will be very good for another strong liberty campaign in the future. Especially if you add the economic problems awaiting America in this decade. The only question will be whether we will get a beltway libertarian of the Cato/Reason(=Koch controlled) like Johnson or a paleo libertarian(Rand Paul and others connected with paleo wing). For the long term I'm betting on Rand but I have been pleasantly surprised by just how much progress has been made already this time around and I still believe Ron can get it even if it will be very tough.

 

[pen_thief]

The MSM is a side-effect. The real enemy is the ignorance of the American people.

I agree.

 

[rb3b3]

You know the rest of teh world hasn't any room to talk. Its mostly like thsi already. Especially Europe. Remember we aren't setting a bad exmple, we're following one.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the world!!! We are the united states of america!! We are supposed to be the very best country in the world!!! People around the world have always looked up to us!! For newt to win a state in this election is just disgusting!! It really pains me to see that a guy who first and foremost cheats on his wife and has been married 3x win a state is mind oggling!! America is doomed if ron dont win!! I can only hope for my kids sake that we the people will even be allowed to vote in 4 years! They might try to take that right away from us too! There reasoning will be that terrosist have tried to rig american elections and therefor it is my duty as president to protect the american people and i must suspend the voting process to ensure the protection of the american people!! Urghhhhhh

 

[parkway3000]

People have to wake up! I mean it's the future of our country here. I mean south carolinians should' ve google Ron Paul!!!! And did some research. And then if they still don't get him they never will!

 

[sirachman]

removed

 

[No Free Beer]

the rest of the world must look at us and shake their heads.....what has this country come to i ask? how is it remotely possible that this fat bastard ever get a single vote nevermind win a state?? a man who has cheated numerous times on all 3 yes 3 of his wives ever get a single vote? a man who has dodged our military in a time of need ever get a single vote, again i ask what has america come to? i am absolutely ashamed and very embarrased right now!!! i know its still early and we knew coming in that this would be a weak state for us, but for for a guy like newt to even be a candidate in this election is just appauling! where or where has our once great country gone?? ron please win it back for us! i beg of you!

Stop calling people names. Newt won. It is disappointing. But move on. Calling him heavy does not win votes.

 

[JimInNY]

The voters in SC are not morons, the campaign did not market to them.

Then WTF did we need 3 million to win SC for?

If the campaign didn't market SC, then whoever is running it needs to be fired.

 

[pacelli]

While everyone else is crying over spilled milk, I was sitting here wondering how that youth vote turned out tonight for Ron vs. the other candidates.

Anybody have any data on that?

 

[tbone717]

While everyone else is crying over spilled milk, I was sitting here wondering how that youth vote turned out tonight for Ron vs. the other candidates.

Anybody have any data on that?

Exit polling is showing that the 18-29 turnout is around what it was in 2008. The PPP Poll from yesterday showed that Newt was getting the most from that group, Paul was tied with Mitt for second.

I posted earlier, that we need to abandon this fantasy that all of these youth are going to get up off the couch and march to the voting booths, when traditionally they do not.

 

[tbone717]

Then WTF did we need 3 million to win SC for?

If the campaign didn't market SC, then whoever is running it needs to be fired.

They didn't market in SC because it was a low ROI. There were only 25 delegates at stake 11 for the winner, 14 proportioned out by congressional district. If we could not win the state outright, then we were competing for a share of 14 delegates. It simply was not worth spending the time or money there, when it could be spent elsewhere. Think of it as dollar per delagate.

 

[SWATH]

I'm having a hard time being optimistic right now about anything. Last night at a dinner party I had to listen to a friend talk about how we really need to nail Iran now for being ornery, and that the Marines who peed on the Taliban corpses are great and that they should be given medals for defending us against Muslims who are planning on taking over the US. Then I overheard another friend talking about how we all need to get behind the one guy that can win and is a the best conservative we have, Santorum. These are also "Tea Party patriots". Then I turn on the tv briefly and the first thing I see is a commercial touting the benefits of high fructose corn syrup.

 

[Indy Vidual]

The answer is simple, dude. Not enough of the people are waking up, and not enough people care about, or even know about the country's current affairs. Until that changes, nothing else will either.

NFL Football tomorrow!

 

[nbruno322]

but the msm is much of the cause. People think they are getting news when they are getting spin.

The way the game works is, that it is fairly easy to manipulate the older folks via the MSM, since they generally don't use the internet and can generally swing an election the way the establishment wants.