I called

[gagnonstudio]

You know, I thought long and hard about it. It sounds stupid, but that's how I feel.

It is stupid, sounds quite selfish actually.

 

[RPinSEAZ]

The Ron Paul campaign can't be all things to all people. They don't have enough money or resources. I'm sure that if the location is moved there is a good reason for it.

How far away from Philly is Valley Forge anyways? 20 miles? Isn't that within "decent driving distance"?

Vent, but don't go abandoning your values or your candidate because you're upset about a grassroots rally.

 

[jumpyg1258]

Jeebus a guy can't be everywhere at once. I had an opportunity recently to go see uncle ron in person but missed out due to bad weather causing a slow down of traffic in my area. Did I blame him for something beyond his control? Nope! I think a lot of peeps on here are a bit too obsessed over him and need to take a serious chill pill rather than posting "Im Not Supporting RP Anymore!" cause to not support the guy just cause you haven't met him yet in person is no excuse and really is just retarded. Is that really worth what future could lie ahead if he doesn't get elected? Heck I do not think I have met even one president or candidate yet in person.

 

[KewlRonduderules]

It is stupid, sounds quite selfish actually.

no, it is not!!! It is quite valid.

She's hurt and upset.

Got news for you, we all get hurt and upset especially things we have invested in like this campaign. But it does not mean we quit. We work harder.

 

[margomaps]

You know, I thought long and hard about it. It sounds stupid, but that's how I feel.

When this mess gets sorted out -- even if in the end you are inconvenienced in serious ways -- I sure hope your support for Ron and his message of liberty remains firm.

Withdrawing your support now would make all those sacrifices you endured pointless. Hang in there.

 

[coffeewithchess]

We really can't rely on Ron Paul HQ. What is done, is done through grassroots. HQ is left to make campaign ads(crappy or not), watch YouTube videos(that we make), and not get Ron Paul on Glenn Beck/other media programs, then HQ takes the credit for the support that Ron Paul has.

Don't be discouraged though! We know as Ron Paul says, bureaucracies are inept...same with campaigns IMHO. The real work, getting Ron Paul's name to people that don't know him, is up to us. We need to remember that we are the ones that either will or won't get him elected. We love what Ron Paul is doing, but yes, we do have our gripes about his campaign. That being said, again, don't be discouraged, go and tell somebody today about Ron Paul that you haven't told.

 

[Nefertiti]

The grassroots wanted a rally on the Mall.

The Philly Meetup won the fundraising contest, and were entitled to Ron Paul's attendance at a rally they organized.

The campaign promised to attend said rally on Nov. 10.

However, neither the campaign nor the Meetup has ever promised the Mall as far as I can tell. It is Semetary's unofficial site that has been promoting that as the location.

 

[gagnonstudio]

no, it is not!!! It is quite valid.

She's hurt and upset.

Got news for you, we all get hurt and upset especially things we have invested in like this campaign. But it does not mean we quit. We work harder.

Its fine to be hurt and upset, but to threaten withdrawing support is hurtful to us too who have sacrificed a lot. So good, I hope she doesn't quit, and works harder, but it doesn't sound like that to me.

 

[yongrel]

Man is born to trouble as sparks fly upward.

*the only biblical thingy I ever quote*

 

[American]

Well as the saying goes, shit happens. But curiously who else would you support I cant think of anyone who's position is similiar to Ron's. You either agree and understand whats going with this country or you dont. I mean no one else is talking about the dollar failing, no one else is talking about the immigration problem and civil liberties. The list is long....

I just dont see how with drawing your support is going to hurt anyone but yourself.

 

[MusoSpuso]

You know, I thought long and hard about it. It sounds stupid, but that's how I feel.

Bye.

I have no problem with people withdrawing support for reasons like this--it's your choice. Frustration and anger, even a lot, is totally understandable.

However, I am sick of the whining and pandering that these people give and receive with statements like this. Want to go, then go. I respect your decision, but not when it's made so melodramatically and to purposely create drama and strife.

Leave the bullshit at the door of the neo-cons and the supposed "top-tier" canidates thank you very much.

 

[LibertyEagle]

The grassroots wanted a rally on the Mall.

The Philly Meetup won the fundraising contest, and were entitled to Ron Paul's attendance at a rally they organized.

The campaign promised to attend said rally on Nov. 10.

However, neither the campaign nor the Meetup has ever promised the Mall as far as I can tell. It is Semetary's unofficial site that has been promoting that as the location.

Yes, but this whole thing would not have even gotten off the ground had it not been for Sematary. This event was all HIS IDEA. SOMEONE had to move forward. Heck, the campaign won't even tell anyone who the speakers are and they can't even finalize the darn location a week from the event. This is ludicrous.

 

[libertarian4321]

I called the campaign and vented. I am sorry. But I sacrificed my summer. I've lost friends, I'm still fighting with them now. My husband took his last day off.

I let him know the guy know that I am withdrawing my support if it is moved far away.

Did they move the rally to Cleveland, or Dallas?

If its still in Philly, whats the big deal?

 

[KewlRonduderules]

Hittgirl,

sometimes when we see things on these forums, there is an immediate reaction to think the worse because of what others write. We cannot allow what they say to be regarded as fact or the unofficial spokesmen for the campaign. Remember the NH ad #1. It turned out fine- I did not like it BTW but I reserved judgement to see what the campaign had to say about it. In the end, it helped us.

I think it is important to take a step back and see how things develop because we really do not know what is going on.

And to take what others are saying as the "holy grail" of annoucements would do our efforts a disservice.

Patience.

Peace

 

[r3volution]

I called the campaign and vented. I am sorry. But I sacrificed my summer. I've lost friends, I'm still fighting with them now. My husband took his last day off.

I let him know the guy know that I am withdrawing my support if it is moved far away.

what will your alternative be ?

 

[LibertyEagle]

Did they move the rally to Cleveland, or Dallas?

If its still in Philly, whats the big deal?

Because thousands of flyers have already been handed out telling people where it will be held. Are we going to have people standing there on that day, redirecting them? Are we going to need to fund buses to transport them to the new location?

 

[Brinck Slattery]

Look at the big picture guys - the campaign was looking at a possible December primary in New Hampshire with other early primary states moving theirs up apace. I can see why there might be scheduling problems when trying to decide where his time is best spent, whether in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina or Philly. Just step back and take a deep breath.

He is trying to win a primary, not gratify his fans.

That said, I'm sorry that you feel betrayed/put upon by the (non)decision and (possible) location change of this rally, and I hope having to take a bus or cab some distance won't deter you from supporting the message of freedom.

EDIT: I just re-read this and it sounds snarky. I sincerely do hope that this particular inconvenience won't turn you off to the campaign.

 

[LibertyEagle]

hittgirl won't go anywhere. She's just PO'd and I don't blame her. Just let everything cool down.

 

[American]

I called the campaign and vented. I am sorry. But I sacrificed my summer. I've lost friends, I'm still fighting with them now. My husband took his last day off.

I let him know the guy know that I am withdrawing my support if it is moved far away.

Lots of people have sacrificed for this campaign. But remember what voting for Dr. Paul really means. Lets not be to hasty here. Its not as bad are you think. Get a grip!

 

[jgmaynard]

There are a ZILLION things that can change plans for rallies at the last minute - real security needs, security needs required by the lcaol/state government (when the NHLA hosted Governor Benson, we were told that we were only required to hire one cop. A few days before the event, a rival group announced they would be protesting our dinner, so the city required us to hire an additional cop.), insurance regulations/expenses (a town here in NH tried to force a (l)ibertarian gathering here to get a million dollars in insurance to hold the rally and the ACLU helped them to win against the town. A trillion things like this can happen as a rally gets to look like it is growing larger. Government causes most of the problems (surprise, surprise!), but whatever the issue may be, I trust that the Paul campaign wants this to come off as smoothly as possible.
In short, we don't know what the hold-up is or any problem with the location that seems to have suddenly cropped up. It would seem to me that they know that not moving it would be a better decision unless that proves impossible, in which case, they will do the best they can.
Just my $0.02 ($0.0123466456 after taxes).

JM