I called

and you can all still hold a rally without him?
If people are coming from all over you better get to planing to make sure it is still informative.
get other speakers.

our Rally here in San Francisco would have been successful with our without Ron Paul.
I mean is he really gonna say anything you don't already know?
That's the thing about him, once you know there is nothing new to learn. He won't flip flop and change his views. Solid.

sooooo make it happen with or without him.

I do think he should show up but if he can't just keep it moving and make it happen!
 
Ive said it 1000 times ill keep saying it.... Has anyone thought that the reason they are moving it is because there is NOT ENOUGH ROOM? You can not put 5 pounds of sand in a 1 pound bag...
 
Ive said it 1000 times ill keep saying it.... Has anyone thought that the reason they are moving it is because there is NOT ENOUGH ROOM? You can not put 5 pounds of sand in a 1 pound bag...

Still, they owe everyone who has planned at least an explanation... before they say it is changing.
 
Ive said it 1000 times ill keep saying it.... Has anyone thought that the reason they are moving it is because there is NOT ENOUGH ROOM? You can not put 5 pounds of sand in a 1 pound bag...


Considering that the Independence Mall is the largest of the 3 possible sites thats NOT the issue
 
Ive said it 1000 times ill keep saying it.... Has anyone thought that the reason they are moving it is because there is NOT ENOUGH ROOM? You can not put 5 pounds of sand in a 1 pound bag...


Your explanation makes a lot of sense. Has anybody ever been to Independence Hall? It is really not that big. And if we have 10K + people that could be a potential problem. But still let's wait and see what the campaign says...
 
Ive said it 1000 times ill keep saying it.... Has anyone thought that the reason they are moving it is because there is NOT ENOUGH ROOM? You can not put 5 pounds of sand in a 1 pound bag...

They're considering a move to a SMALLER venue.
 
and you can all still hold a rally without him?
If people are coming from all over you better get to planing to make sure it is still informative.
get other speakers.

our Rally here in San Francisco would have been successful with our without Ron Paul.
I mean is he really gonna say anything you don't already know?
That's the thing about him, once you know there is nothing new to learn. He won't flip flop and change his views. Solid.

sooooo make it happen with or without him.

I do think he should show up but if he can't just keep it moving and make it happen!
We can't. HQ took over the rally - Bob relinquished the Independence Mall permit, HQ now holds it.
 
McDermit,

They're not saying it will be canceled. They're only talking about moving it. At least that is my understanding.

And that's just as bad as cancelling, really. How are the 50,000 people with flyers going to find out it's been moved? How are they going to get to the new location once they find out at the day of? Are we going to be bussing them? If it's held in Valley Forge, there isn't an easy way to do it. And UPenn sucks as a location. The media coverage won't be the same.

Half the purpose of holding it at Independence Mall was the strong symbolism, UPenn sure as hell doesn't have that. The location is half the rally.
 
what is the other half?

And that's just as bad as cancelling, really. How are the 50,000 people with flyers going to find out it's been moved? How are they going to get to the new location once they find out at the day of? Are we going to be bussing them? If it's held in Valley Forge, there isn't an easy way to do it. And UPenn sucks as a location. The media coverage won't be the same.

Half the purpose of holding it at Independence Mall was the strong symbolism, UPenn sure as hell doesn't have that. The location is half the rally.
 
didn't you get this rally because you won by raising a shitload of money?

maybe they want to mess this up.
"there's probably a risk I could win," Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul just told NBC-TV's Jay Leno.
as if they aren't ready to win or don't want to? A risk??? why a RISK!!!
site goes down a lot. He doesnt say the sites name on public appearances....
boching this HUGE rally.....

not trying to say bad things but what if this is all a diversion. Sure he has a solid voting record but they can afford a Dr No on their team cause they know the vote wont ever make a difference?

either way I am voting just always been a skeptical person and all these recent events are making me wonder.

first time wondering like this and I have been hardcore about Ron Paul since April.
 
Obviously, we are waiting. But we're also trying to influence the decision they're making. Any change of location at this point will suck a big one.

There is a time to leave the campaign alone, and a time to make your voice heard. This was OUR rally, therefore we have a right to let the campaign know that any change is NOT okay. Notify them NOW letting them know what you think.
 
The risk line was a joke. The risk is that all the BS the neo-cons have done will be brought to light.

didn't you get this rally because you won by raising a shitload of money?

maybe they want to mess this up.
"there's probably a risk I could win," Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul just told NBC-TV's Jay Leno.
as if they aren't ready to win or don't want to? A risk??? why a RISK!!!
site goes down a lot. He doesnt say the sites name on public appearances....
boching this HUGE rally.....

not trying to say bad things but what if this is all a diversion. Sure he has a solid voting record but they can afford a Dr No on their team cause they know the vote wont ever make a difference?

either way I am voting just always been a skeptical person and all these recent events are making me wonder.

first time wondering like this and I have been hardcore about Ron Paul since April.
 
If they want to have a rally at another location such as Valley Forge, that is fine. Just as long as it is after the rally at the Mall. Then the meetup group can have their own rally since they are being so selfish (or so it seems).
 
hen the meetup group can have their own rally since they are being so selfish (or so it seems).

no it seems they invited THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of people and PAID FOR and handed out THOUSANDS of fliers and PLANNED around it then it was suddenly changed

thats what it seems like,.

would give Ron Paul a very bad name if people showed up from ALL OVER the United States to find out it was CHANGED.


and I think the meetup WON this by RAISING them the MOST money.
that was the plan right?
Is the campaign indian givers now?
 
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