I am sad we only got 3 out of 4 of these, couldn't finish.

[ProBlue33]

Anybody here since 07 knows this, we did three out of four of these points, but because Ron was too nice and the GOP fought dirty we all lost.
But now.

This time the establishment loses.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Thats right.. I was going to post this awhile ago but I figured Id wait till after today. Agreed.. now is the time we win... We just have a different champion than we originally wanted.

 

[erowe1]

Thats right.. I was going to post this awhile ago but I figured Id wait till after today. Agreed.. now is the time we win... We just have a different champion than we originally wanted.

Who?

 

[presence]

OP image woudn't display on my monitor, here it is as imgur

 

[jllundqu]

If you're saying that Trump is our 'new champion' and our 'new Ron Paul' I am going to suck start my pistol..... FFS SMDH

 

[Cabal]

This time the establishment loses.

Based on what? And loses to who? Define "establishment."

 

[CPUd]

 

[Cleaner44]

Trump is not a champion of the Constitution or liberty like Ron Paul.

Trump is useful for defeating the establishment and Washington machine.

While this is not a step forward for liberty, it is a step back for neoconservationism.

 

[erowe1]

Trump is useful for defeating the establishment and Washington machine.

How? All available evidence tells us that when he leaves office he will hand over to his successor a larger, more expensive, more oppressive federal government than he inherited.

 

[phill4paul]

WTF? Lol, the shit I see on the internet.

 

[thoughtomator]

Trump is not a champion of the Constitution or liberty like Ron Paul.

Trump is useful for defeating the establishment and Washington machine.

While this is not a step forward for liberty, it is a step back for neoconservationism.

Exactly. Anyone who doesn't understand this doesn't want to understand it. They adore their chains and cannot imagine life without them.

 

[Cabal]

Trump is useful for defeating the establishment and Washington machine.

What does any of this mean? Or what is any of this supposed to mean? Does it actually mean anything? Because it honestly just sounds like a bunch of buzzwords and nonsense.

 

[Cleaner44]

How? All available evidence tells us that when he leaves office he will hand over to his successor a larger, more expensive, more oppressive federal government than he inherited.

I don't agree with your interpretation of the evidence. For example, Trump said he wants to get the federal government out of education and that he believes education is best handled locally.

We don't have any record of him serving in public office to go on, so much of this is guessing.

As a businessman, Trump is focused on running efficient companies that are highly profitable. This is the exact opposite of how government workers operate.

There is a reason that the establishment is fighting Trump. I believe they are afraid that he won't play ball like all of the other Republicrat politicians. Trump will be difficult to bully into going along to get along. The establishment wants Bush, Rubio, Clinton types. They don't want a president that they can depend on to keep the game going.

We really don't know what we will get with a president Trump, but we will find out in a year.

 

[Cleaner44]

What does any of this mean? Or what is any of this supposed to mean? Does it actually mean anything? Because it honestly just sounds like a bunch of buzzwords and nonsense.

It means that the scam that is going on in DC and VA is about to be interrupted. There are many people profiting from the scam and they don't want it to change. They are concerned that it will change with a president Trump and that is a good sign. I like seeing the scammers scared.

 

[Cabal]

It means that the scam that is going on in DC and VA is about to be interrupted. There are many people profiting from the scam and they don't want it to change. They are concerned that it will change with a president Trump and that is a good sign. I like seeing the scammers scared.

You're still being vague. Now you're just ambiguously referencing some undefined "scam" and "many people" instead of "establishment" and "Washington machine."

 

[erowe1]

I don't agree with your interpretation of the evidence. For example, Trump said he wants to get the federal government out of education and that he believes education is best handled locally.

Since when? I think it's ridiculous to believe that Trump would relinquish control of education once given it.

 

[Cleaner44]

You're still being vague. Now you're just ambiguously referencing some undefined "scam" and "many people" instead of "establishment" and "Washington machine."

Let me be very specific for you. In Virginia there are human beings that profit from contracts they get from lobbying politicians in Washington D.C. Many of these contracts are for unconstitutional services that we don't need. They add trillions to our national debt. The people that profit from all of the contracts and subsidies and programs and bureaucracies are concerned that the gravy train might derail.

Normally these people are just as happy with Bush as they are with Clinton. They don't give a crap about party politics as long as the money keeps flowing.

The system is a scam. The income tax is a scam. Foreign aid is a scam. Are you not aware of these things?

 

[Cleaner44]

Since when? I think it's ridiculous to believe that Trump would relinquish control of education once given it.

Since he has no record of public service to refer to, we can only guess. He says that he supports local control. I also support local control. He might be bullshitting us, but that is what he says.

Would you rather have a neocon that believes in No Child Left Behind?

 

[erowe1]

Let me be very specific for you. In Virginia there are human beings that profit from contracts they get from lobbying politicians in Washington D.C. Many of these contracts are for unconstitutional services that we don't need. They add trillions to our national debt. The people that profit from all of the contracts and subsidies and programs and bureaucracies are concerned that the gravy train might derail.

Normally these people are just as happy with Bush as they are with Clinton. They don't give a crap about party politics as long as the money keeps flowing.

The system is a scam. The income tax is a scam. Foreign aid is a scam. Are you not aware of these things?

None of this has anything to do with Donald Trump, except inasmuch as he's one of the people you're talking about who lobbies DC and profits from it.

 

[Cleaner44]

None of this has anything to do with Donald Trump, except inasmuch as he's one of the people you're talking about who lobbies DC and profits from it.

I always figured that most of his lobbying and backroom deals are more local than national. Maybe I am wrong.