Huge*** Voter Fraud Exposed

Karmus · Jan 9, 2008

Is it possible to have one person go to each polling area and find out where the ballots are/went and have them sit on them to make sure nothing happens to them? Even have people work in team but we need to do this to make sure things don't go missing. Request that they stay in plain view and you would like to be near them, i don't see that being an unreasonable request, and if they refuse, let more people know so they can go down and make sure they don't try to remove them from the building or something. I know it seems rash, but voter fraud is a big deal. Anyone think this is possible?

Paulbot_9876 · Jan 9, 2008

Ninja Homer said:
I haven't heard yet where the "transposing 31 to 0" took place. Was it in Sutton, or was it at the place that collects the votes from the precincts?

If it was in Sutton, I could believe that this was just a mistake. It's a town with a population of 1786, which is about the size of my high school. Mistakes could be made, but somebody should have caught it and corrected it very early. Regardless, what other mistakes could have been made in other precincts if this one got through?

If this happened where they collect the votes from the precincts, it leans a lot more towards voter fraud.

I think the best bet to get a recount is to get Obama's people involved. Point them to http://ronrox.com/paulstats.php?party=DEMOCRATS

greenville got caught also......

Eisenh0wer · Jan 9, 2008

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/New_Hampshire_District_Admits_Ron_Paul_Vote_Skew

Digg it and spread it.

Menthol Patch · Jan 9, 2008

Call the official campaign and demand they pay for a recount!

Ron Paul HEAD QUARTERS

703-248-9115

Menthol Patch · Jan 9, 2008

Be polite when you call head quarters!

bcasanov · Jan 9, 2008

Be aware also, that when doing the recount, the ballots can be confiscated or "missing." We need to make sure this does not happen!

Menthol Patch · Jan 9, 2008

bcasanov said:
Be aware also, that when doing the recount, the ballots can be confiscated or "missing." We need to make sure this does not happen!

We need a recount ASAP before the evidence is destroyed!

S3eker · Jan 9, 2008

has anyone posted on the Obama forums? If so, can you please post links?

jillian · Jan 9, 2008

Menthol Patch said:
Be polite when you call head quarters!

did you call?

i'm curious to know their response. as much as i would love to talk to them, i'm not about to call.

canadianforronpaul · Jan 9, 2008

This may be a mistake more than fraud - I mean really, nobody is dumb enough to put zero if they are committing fraud - they'd put at least 5 so anyone who voted Ron Paul would say "oh there's my vote, in there" and in case they might know or meet at least 4 others who voted Ron Paul they would think "oh there's our votes". Even 5 would be risky, they'd best put 10 in case a whole family of voters went Ron Paul - to put in zero is to guarantee you'll get caught.

There's plenty of room for outrage over the error and ineptness, but nobody committing fraud would be dumb enough to go with zero - too easily caught!

therealjjj77 · Jan 9, 2008

canadianforronpaul said:
This may be a mistake more than fraud - I mean really, nobody is dumb enough to put zero if they are committing fraud - they'd put at least 5 so anyone who voted Ron Paul would say "oh there's my vote, in there" and in case they might know or meet at least 4 others who voted Ron Paul they would think "oh there's our votes". Even 5 would be risky, they'd best put 10 in case a whole family of voters went Ron Paul - to put in zero is to guarantee you'll get caught.

There's plenty of room for outrage over the error and ineptness, but nobody committing fraud would be dumb enough to go with zero - too easily caught!

It is far more probable that fraud is occuring then that this is a simple error. When errors are popping up, then a true investigation needs to be done so that we can determine if there are any other "errors". However, probably by now the evidence is destroyed.

Eisenh0wer · Jan 9, 2008

jillian said:
did you call?

i'm curious to know their response. as much as i would love to talk to them, i'm not about to call.

I called. First they asked where I wanted to be diercted, I said "I want to ask about the Sutton vote fraud" and she was polite and directed me to some guy. I asked about the fraud and what steps Paul was going to be taking in response to the news. The man responded by saying that it was between Paul and his legal counsel, but he would take my name down for someone interested in a recount. So there ya go. Call 'em and let them know we want it.

Talldude1412 · Jan 9, 2008

Guys it doesn't matter anyway,

http://real-us.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080109/ap_on_re_us/katrina_flood_lawsuits

The entire GDP of the US for the next 100 years is going to Katrina victims for their suffering. :rolleyes:

^^^^^

Laugh everyone, get rational and channel our anger effectively.

blazin_it_alwyz · Jan 9, 2008

Wow good to see actual info pouring in. I just heard about this from the social sites (Digg, Reddit), and heard about it from ABC. Now we can officially pursue this without being called "conspiracy theorists".

Waldo · Jan 9, 2008

canadianforronpaul said:
This may be a mistake more than fraud - I mean really, nobody is dumb enough to put zero if they are committing fraud - they'd put at least 5 so anyone who voted Ron Paul would say "oh there's my vote, in there" and in case they might know or meet at least 4 others who voted Ron Paul they would think "oh there's our votes". Even 5 would be risky, they'd best put 10 in case a whole family of voters went Ron Paul - to put in zero is to guarantee you'll get caught.

There's plenty of room for outrage over the error and ineptness, but nobody committing fraud would be dumb enough to go with zero - too easily caught!

If this is a computer virus fix and the virus is set to subtract X amount of votes from Y candidate, in the case of Sutton it simply subtracted too many and set the number at zero. If this happened statewide it could mean quite a few percentage points even if done on a small scale for each county.

Does anyone know how each county it added? I realize there are both hand and
computer votes but even the hand votes are entered into the computer right?

Lord Xar · Jan 9, 2008

This is ONE county and this isn't even DIEBOLD.

This is rather serious. They "all of sudden" find the votes?

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orp · Jan 9, 2008

an absolute MUST!

Menthol Patch said:
We all need to email, fax, and call the campaign to demand a recount!

We must insist that the Ron Paul campaign demand a recount of the New Hampshire vote. They might even team up with the Obama campaign if they are interested. I sure would be, with Hillary's close "win" there.

At any rate, I can't think of a better way to spend some of the $20 million collected last quarter. If there was vote fraud and it is not challenged, then the same thing will happen in every other state. In that case, what's the point? Ron will "lose" through vote fraud and all the time and money spent on the campaign wasted.

New Hampshire is a place to draw a line in the sand and fight.

This is not just a presidential campaign, this is a political Revolution!

UtahApocalypse · Jan 9, 2008

blazin_it_alwyz said:
Wow good to see actual info pouring in. I just heard about this from the social sites (Digg, Reddit), and heard about it from ABC. Now we can officially pursue this without being called "conspiracy theorists".

This has made it to ABC??? Gotta link??

Fight-n-Mad · Jan 9, 2008

orp said:
We must insist that the Ron Paul campaign demand a recount of the New Hampshire vote.

A HAND recount. If the machines skimmed votes -- and it appears that they might have -- we were at least robbed of 4th place.

http://ronrox.com/paulstats.php

Nailhead · Jan 9, 2008

wow...this is totally f$@%ed

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