Huckabee won the values Voter debate by 63%

[V-rod]

A good many of the "family friendly" censorship crowd in Washington have either
1) viewed porn more than once
2) consorted with prostitutes

 

[Dustancostine]

I came away from it with

• that Ron Paul has major guts showing up at a debate with this crowd
• this is probably the best debate I've seen so far for giving equal time
• the idea that Huckabee is trying to run as vice president
• that Keyes is completely crazy
• that Keyes is there to attack Ron Paul
• Tancredo is worse than I thought he was
• Brownback is worse than I thought he was
• that John Cox is a bad public speaker
• that Duncan Hunter scares me as a person
• that there is more dislike for the IRS than I knew existed
• that there is more dislike for NAU than I knew existed
• that rational arguments took a backseat to pandering in this debate
• that the questioners and audience are short sighted on issues of government internvention

I didn't hear Keyes ever attack Paul. I think he is more of a threat to Huckabee and Romney. He went after Romney hard.

 

[Eli]

God likes pastors
Huckabee was a pastor
God likes Huckabee

Their logic is flawless!

 

[Dustancostine]

The post game show had this older lady on.. she was talking about values and the guy asked him about her feeling of Ron Paul. I was ready for her to rip into Ron Paul (for saying no to legislation against porn, etc), but surprisingly she explained the Libertarian philosophy and said that she though RP was genuine and has a lot of good ideas.

Can you imagine what the MSM would have done to RP?

Was it Shafly? She supported Goldwater back in the day.

 

[crhoades]

I did like the format of the debate. Not real crazy about the results, but then no one but a John Hagee dispensationalist is going to win with a John Hagee dispensationalist crowd.

Someone just hit the nail on the head. I guess it would be wrong to want to censor Hagee and keep him off the air, huh? lol!

 

[lisajames96]

I'm a values voter. And Dr. Paul won the debate to me because he "valued" inegrity and constitutional truth over a sermon-like answer, or cop-out statement that most of them responded with. Not all of us bible thumpers bought into most of that "stuff" being spread out in the debate tonight. I am more eager to donate and campaign now. Dr. Paul held his own and stuck to his guns tonight. Alan Keyes was a disappointment to me. Hope I don't offend anyone. And who is the Cox candidate? I will google him tomorrow.
-lisa

 

[Starks]

Theory on how Ron Paul lost 10 votes during the debate tonight...

They dropped dead listening to Alan Keyes' bullshit.

 

[disinter]

Who won? What were the results? I had to leave....

 

[Dustancostine]

I think RP supporters are pretty much unoffendable.

 

[rpfreedom08]

nice to hear from a supporter that was there. So do you have the names and address of those 9 people that switched there vote from Ron Paul to someone else j/k Nice to hear you're going to do more to help promote Ron Paul!

 

[RevolutionSD]

The little that I saw of it was HORRIBLE, and Alan Keyes is a complete maniac, but they did bring up the North America Union, which is impressive.

 

[BarryDonegan]

im actually quite proud that someone can go into this type of debate, tell the people he supports the rights to pornography, prostitution, and other willing contracts between individuals who perform unwanted behavior because it protects on the same level his right to be christian, and go out and promote his religion to other people.

he had a great point, and it was a daring point to make in that place.

the ONLY reason he gets away with it, is because he is a more "stereotypical" christian in his day to day life than everyone in that room, and its standing up for his idealogy that makes him controversial, which is every thing their movement is supposed to be about.

and thats why he went into hostile territory and got #2 in the poll.

 

[joyfullyservingchrist]

Whoa whoa whoa...don't put us all in the same boat...

I would just like to say that I am also totally disturbed by the debate. There is no other candidate aside from Ron Paul that I can cast a vote for. I am, however, a conservative/Bible believing dispensational Christian.
The reason that I was disturbed (and also have a headache) was not only the answers given by the other candidates...but most of the questions that were asked. I think that it is a flawed notion for Christians to look to government to enforce morality upon America. What Ron Paul said regarding the founding fathers' understanding of free speech is absolutely true. I am all for liberty because I don't want someone pushing their beliefs and morality on me. Not to mention that the Apostle Paul clearly states that we do not have any business judging those outside the Church (and America and the Church are most definitely not synonomous). I desire to live "a quiet and peacable life in all godliness and reverence." I also know (as the founders of our Country did) that most of the greatest acts of evil ever perpetrated upon mankind have been by governments. SO, I am disturbed that so many Christians have bought the lie that somehow government can save them. Unfortunately they are being hoodwinked into giving up their liberties, and will soon find themselves slaves in the new government being given to us by the elitists...

 

[literatim]

im actually quite proud that someone can go into this type of debate, tell the people he supports the rights to pornography, prostitution, and other willing contracts between individuals who perform unwanted behavior because it protects on the same level his right to be christian, and go out and promote his religion to other people.

The thing is, all Ron Paul said was that its up to the States and federal has nothing to do with it. I am sure a lot of the evangelical Christian don't like hearing that.

 

[lisajames96]

nice to hear from a supporter that was there. So do you have the names and address of those 9 people that switched there vote from Ron Paul to someone else j/k Nice to hear you're going to do more to help promote Ron Paul!

was this to me? let me clarify. I wasn't there, and I didn't vote. I was simply stating that I am a values voter( i vote on my values) . Since I am also a constitutionalist, I have no conflict of interest with the good doctor on most issues. He clearly won the debate on truth and integrity. Anybody that would switch their vote from RP based off of Huck's answers was on shaky ground anyway.

 

[sky21448]

lol i went to the bathroom when other was speaking well its not really important to hear what they are saying cuz most likely is going to be another bs

 

[stones88]

I would just like to say that I am also totally disturbed by the debate. There is no other candidate aside from Ron Paul that I can cast a vote for. I am, however, a conservative/Bible believing dispensational Christian.
The reason that I was disturbed (and also have a headache) was not only the answers given by the other candidates...but most of the questions that were asked. I think that it is a flawed notion for Christians to look to government to enforce morality upon America. What Ron Paul said regarding the founding fathers' understanding of free speech is absolutely true. I am all for liberty because I don't want someone pushing their beliefs and morality on me. Not to mention that the Apostle Paul clearly states that we do not have any business judging those outside the Church (and America and the Church are most definitely not synonomous). I desire to live "a quiet and peacable life in all godliness and reverence." I also know (as the founders of our Country did) that most of the greatest acts of evil ever perpetrated upon mankind have been by governments. SO, I am disturbed that so many Christians have bought the lie that somehow government can save them. Unfortunately they are being hoodwinked into giving up their liberties, and will soon find themselves slaves in the new government being given to us by the elitists...

amen.

 

[Paulitician]

They dropped dead listening to Alan Keyes' bullshit.

Probably. I put the TV to mute every time it was his turn to speak.

 

[hard@work]

I'm a values voter. And Dr. Paul won the debate to me because he "valued" inegrity and constitutional truth over a sermon-like answer, or cop-out statement that most of them responded with. Not all of us bible thumpers bought into most of that "stuff" being spread out in the debate tonight. I am more eager to donate and campaign now. Dr. Paul held his own and stuck to his guns tonight. Alan Keyes was a disappointment to me. Hope I don't offend anyone. And who is the Cox candidate? I will google him tomorrow.
-lisa

You sound like a real patriot to me.

 

[jacmicwag]

Well, my take - Ron was fairly solid until the last half of his closing remarks. At that point, he started coming across a little angry and shrill to me. I've seen Ron in person numerous times in the past 3 months and he is much more effective when he tones it down a little (just my opinion) or adds some humor. He walks a delicate line with his message and truth does not always win the argument. I would like to see Ron deliver more of his message like he did the first 30 seconds of his closing statement, which was outstanding. No one on this planet can compete with him when he stays focused and on-target. He tried to cover about 15 different points on his close and lost his direction a bit - why not just hammer home 3 or 4 major points and then do a tease for some of his other great ideas that he doesn't have time to discuss. I know - it's easy to be an arm-chair quarterback but that's my take and I'm sticking to it.

Alan Keyes - what is up with that? Crazy man from the church of Pluto or strategic plant to try and trip our man up in future debates. No conspiracy stuff for me normally, but I do not trust the Republican Party as far as I can throw them. I saw what they did at the Texas Straw Poll. I am very wary of this man. He came to Houston for a talk and totally lost it afterwards blasting Ron Paul to some of my fellow RP meetup supporters. I hate to say this but he may be bait or the idea could be to paint him and Ron Paul in the same picture as raving lunatics.