Huck banking on brokered convention - McCain worried

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/.../2008/02/17/73421.html?s=al&promo_code=4568-1

[...] (first part says McCain not considering Huck for VP)

"The immediate problem that Huckabee poses for McCain strategists is how to get him out of the presidential race without offending him," Novak explains.

While Huckabee cannot possibly get enough delegates to win the GOP nomination, he remains the elephant in McCain's room, worrying his campaign "by threatening to win an occasional state, as he did recently in Kansas." Moreover, Novak notes that Huckabee "attempted to upset McCain in Virginia, though McCain wound up winning the primary there by a comfortable nine points."

Novak, however, fails to mention what may be the McCain camp's real anxiety over Huckabee's remaining in the race: fear over a brokered convention, possibly overturning the primary results.

In a Feb. 14 e-mail to supporters, Huckabee stressed that possibility, writing: "A few weeks ago, I stood at Chuck Norris' ranch before a crowd of people and said that Texas would be the place where the dynamics of this race changed dramatically in our favor.

"Since then, after winning West Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, Kansas and Louisiana and fighting close races in Washington, Oklahoma, Missouri and Virginia we have positioned ourselves to do just that."

He goes on to explain his goal of creating a brokered convention, a possibility that could throw the nomination wide open not just to he and McCain, but others:

"Remember the Republican nominee must have 1,191 votes to claim the nomination or else there will be a brokered convention where the party's top candidates will have an opportunity to make an impassioned plea as to why they are the best choice to represent the Republican Party in the fall against the Democratic candidate.

"Before we get to a brokered convention however we will need to win Texas and seize the momentum. For this to happen however, we must have your immediate financial support. We are laying it all on the field in Texas and we need you to join us."

 

[WilliamC]

Would that Ron Paul be in the position Huckabee is.

Huckabee has been taking more and more of Ron Paul's positions as his own lately.

I wonder if the two of them are willing to talk strategy......

 

[Daveforliberty]

Maybe the Huckster will come to realize that the establishment elite was exploiting him for their own purposes. His darling coverage in the press, his invite to speak at the CFR, was all disingenuous manipulation focused on getting the uber-war candidate the nomination.

The establishment elite has never cared for Huckabee and never will. They learned their lesson with Jimmy Carter, and they're not about to let that happen again.

Wake up, Huck, the welfare/warfare machine is not your friend. Your real friend has been standing on the stage at the debates next to you, speaking truth to power.

 

[Tronchaser]

Imagine all the hucksters getting their brokered convention, and then realizing that all the delegates are all RP supporters.

lol, that would be funny.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Would that Ron Paul be in the position Huckabee is.

Huckabee has been taking more and more of Ron Paul's positions as his own lately.

I wonder if the two of them are willing to talk strategy......

> He goes on to explain his goal of creating a brokered convention, a possibility that could throw the nomination wide open not just to he and McCain, but others:

I like those last two words!

A Paul/Huck or Huck/Paul ticket would be interesting... Though if Paul is unwilling to endorse him due to several issues - like Foreign Policy, so he sure won't run with him unless Huck changes his position or something like a check and balance is agreed to.

The VP's only duty is breaking a tie in Congress, as far as I know, yet Cheny seems to be much more active and Huck does listen to Paul and adopts some of his platform, so in the interest of furthering the ideas of liberty, a VP slot wouldn't be a total loss. The question would be could he do more good in Congress?

-n

 

[kirkblitz]

why would huck take a vp spot from us? If he has more delegates he will offer paul not the other way round

 

[LibertiORDeth]

The establishment elite has never cared for Huckabee and never will. They learned their lesson with Jimmy Carter, and they're not about to let that happen again.

Coud you expound on that? I wasn't around during his presidency.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

why would huck take a vp spot from us? If he has more delegates he will offer paul not the other way round

Yeah, I was kind of thinking we'd get the VP slot, but supposedly there are a lot of delegates that are RP supporters - how many "a lot" is, no body knows - except maybe the campaign. If it's really a LOT, that could swing things.

-n

 

[phixion]

How can anyone know we have a lot of delegates when the delegates haven't even been selected etc?

Pete

 

[billjarrett]

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A Paul/Huck or Huck/Paul ticket would be interesting... Though if Paul is unwilling to endorse him due to several issues - like Foreign Policy, so he sure won't run with him unless Huck changes his position or something like a check and balance is agreed to.

I wouldn't completely discount this idea. I know alot of people around here think that Huck was part of the problem and was only in to keep Ron Paul out, and I stayed quiet on those discussions.

I think Huck wanted to be in that position, but after being shoved to the side of the stage at the last debate started to become a bit angry with the treatment he was getting. I also think that because of the delay between Romneys suspension and his endorsement, deals were made to be VP (or maybe something else, but I would guess VP).

Ron Paul has said that he would not endorse any of those folks unless they changed their minds. I could see Huck compromise on some of these points and take Paul on as a VP if it meant throwing the convention his way. It would depend on how the numbers fell in the first round of voting though.

Although I don't like alot of Hucks platform, unlike alot of people around here I think his heart is in the right place, just his head is not. I also think he's POd about being marginalized lately.

I'm not saying it's likely, but in a brokered convention deals start to be made and it is possible odd bedfellows could walk out of there.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

some have been. depends on the state. I believe some states elect directly, while others have state conventions. The number will be in flux for months.

-n

 

[OrbitalGun]

Could Huck beat Obama or Hitlery? Paul/Huck ticket FTW.

 

[nate895]

I wouldn't completely discount this idea. I know alot of people around here think that Huck was part of the problem and was only in to keep Ron Paul out, and I stayed quiet on those discussions.

I think Huck wanted to be in that position, but after being shoved to the side of the stage at the last debate started to become a bit angry with the treatment he was getting. I also think that because of the delay between Romneys suspension and his endorsement, deals were made to be VP (or maybe something else, but I would guess VP).

Ron Paul has said that he would not endorse any of those folks unless they changed their minds. I could see Huck compromise on some of these points and take Paul on as a VP if it meant throwing the convention his way. It would depend on how the numbers fell in the first round of voting though.

Although I don't like alot of Hucks platform, unlike alot of people around here I think his heart is in the right place, just his head is not. I also think he's POd about being marginalized lately.

I'm not saying it's likely, but in a brokered convention deals start to be made and it is possible odd bedfellows could walk out of there.

I agree, he and Thompson were the only ones I could have ever considered supporting as the nominee of the party. I still think it would be better if Huckabee took the second spot, but I wouldn't put him on the ticket if it was at all possible to put on someone else.

 

[DAFTEK]

I would consider voting for Huck at the convention if he stands a chance, if not i'm staying home this time, i cant deal with this crap anymore. Obomba will win in any case, i fear this country with Obomba or McInsane...

 

[me3]

I would consider voting for Huck at the convention if he stands a chance, if not i'm staying home this time, i cant deal with this crap anymore. Obomba will win in any case, i fear this country with Obomba or McInsane...

Stay home? Are you kidding me?

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Could Huck beat Obama or Hitlery? Paul/Huck ticket FTW.

Yeah - I think Paul is the only one that can beat Obama.

-n

 

[WilliamC]

> He goes on to explain his goal of creating a brokered convention, a possibility that could throw the nomination wide open not just to he and McCain, but others:

I like those last two words!

A Paul/Huck or Huck/Paul ticket would be interesting... Though if Paul is unwilling to endorse him due to several issues - like Foreign Policy, so he sure won't run with him unless Huck changes his position or something like a check and balance is agreed to.

The VP's only duty is breaking a tie in Congress, as far as I know, yet Cheny seems to be much more active and Huck does listen to Paul and adopts some of his platform, so in the interest of furthering the ideas of liberty, a VP slot wouldn't be a total loss. The question would be could he do more good in Congress?

-n

Well I think Ron Paul would have far more influence on national affairs as a VP than as a Congressman but it will be up to him to decide if that's in his best interest.

If he honestly thinks it would further the cause of restoring the USA to a more Constitutional form of government then maybe he will consider it.

But let him win his Congressional seat first, it will give him a much stronger hand to play regardless of what else happens.

 

[leonster]

Well I think Ron Paul would have far more influence on national affairs as a VP than as a Congressman but it will be up to him to decide if that's in his best interest.

If he honestly thinks it would further the cause of restoring the USA to a more Constitutional form of government then maybe he will consider it.

But let him win his Congressional seat first, it will give him a much stronger hand to play regardless of what else happens.

If nothing else... it's pretty hard for the media to completely blackout a sitting Vice President... especially if a deal means he would really have Huck's ear and can get good chunks of the message out from the sitting President's mouth.

Unlikely? Yes.

Impossible? No.

 

[Daveforliberty]

Coud you expound on that? I wasn't around during his presidency.

A Southern governor who claims to be a "born again" Christian, who turns out to not be completely controllable.

They did much better with the Southern governor who liked the ladies and never claimed to be devout.

 

[seeker1]

It's more of the same bullshit

How can anyone know we have a lot of delegates when the delegates haven't even been selected etc?

Pete

Making unsubstantiated claims is there modus. They are the same ones claiming non-existent victories.